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Dan Turchin


Host Dan Turchin, PeopleReign CEO, explores how AI is changing the workplace. He interviews thought leaders and technologists from industry and academia who share their experiences and insights about artificial intelligence and what it means to be human in the era of AI-driven automation. Learn more about PeopleReign, the system of intelligence for IT and HR employee service: http://www.peoplereign.io.


AI and the Future of Work

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is ranked as the world's best futurists and is known globally for his trademark “Optimistic Dystopian” viewpoint. Recognized by Salesforce as a top voice shaping the future of AI, he’s a sought-after speaker on the relationship between innovation and humanity. He delivered the world’s first TEDx Talk in VR (2020) and introduced a digital twin that speaks 29 languages (2024). Mark holds a PhD in Management from the University of Technology Sydney, where he studied how organizations can use big data, blockchain, and AI. He’s also a six-time author and dedicated endurance athlete.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Why Dr. Mark van Rijmenam believes we need a paradigm shift to prepare society for the long-term consequences of AI and quantum computing
 • The critical difference between building technology for shareholders versus stakeholders and how that shapes our future
 • What the “spiral dynamics” framework reveals about humanity’s current worldview and its path toward a more interconnected mindset
 • How banning technology for kids under 16 could protect future generations and reshape digital education
 • The risks of anthropomorphizing AI and the need to preserve human agency in a world increasingly shaped by machines
 • What inspired Dr. Mark’s sixth book 
Now What? • and how he uses fiction, philosophy, and global cultures to help readers ride the tsunami of change

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Mark on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn Extending Life With AI • Explore more from Dr. Mark van Rijmenam:
Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of ChangeFuturwise Platform — The Fastest Path to your Next InsightDr. Mark’s TEDx Talk in VR •

348: Will Society Evolve Fast Enough? AI Ethics, Quantum Futures, and Rethinking Humanity with Dr. Mark van Rijmenam

Bhaskar Roy is the Chief of AI Products & Solutions at Workato, the workflow automation leader with more than 11,000 customers and a $5.7 billion valuation. He has been with the company for nearly 11 years, previously serving as CMO. A serial head of products, Bhaskar co-founded Qik, which was acquired by Skype in 2011 for $150 million and later by Microsoft for $8.5 billion, and later held leadership roles at Playphone. He holds a Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science from the Birla Institute of Technology in Mesra, India.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Bhaskar’s journey from co-founding Qik to leading AI products at Workato, and why a lightbulb moment convinced him to pivot from marketing back to product innovation
 • What Bhaskar learned from building products that scale globally and how those lessons shape his view on AI’s real-world impact
 • Why Bhaskar sees AI agents as the next leap beyond low-code automation and how they orchestrate complex business processes
 • The balance between deterministic workflows and AI’s reasoning capabilities, and how to maintain human oversight
 • How enterprises can move beyond AI experiments at the fringes to transformative use cases that deliver measurable ROI
 • The cultural shift required to embrace AI in the workplace, from reducing fear of automation to unlocking new opportunities for employees

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Bhaskar on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How to Help Companies Push Boldly Into The Future • Past episodes with amazing guests from Workato:
Interview with Vijay Tella, CEO of WorkatoInterview with Carter Busse, CIO at Workato

347: Will AI Agents Redefine Automation? Balancing Autonomy and Guardrails with Bhaskar Roy, Chief of AI Products and Solutions at Workato

Dave Treat is the Chief Technology Officer of Pearson, the world’s largest education company headquartered in London, with a market cap of $11 billion and over 17,000 employees. Before joining Pearson, he spent several years at Accenture as a Senior Managing Director leading the Innovation Incubation Group. Dave has also served on multiple technology and industry boards, including the Linux Hyperledger Foundation, Linux Open Wallet Foundation, Digital Dollar Project, and the Global Business Blockchain Council. Earlier in his career, he held leadership roles at Deloitte and UBS. He holds a master’s degree in Higher Education Administration from the University of Michigan and a degree in Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How Pearson is evolving from a textbook publisher into a software company driving the future of learning
 • Why AI study tools are reshaping when and how students learn, meeting them at the exact moment they need help
 • The mental health and motivation challenges students face today, and how AI can support them with simpler, more personalized learning
 • How AI can simplify the administrative burden for educators and free them to focus on deeper student engagement
 • Why the traditional “slingshot model” of education is broken and how skill mapping and lifelong learning are the future

 • How immersive, 3D digital learning experiences will replace today’s flat, two-dimensional interactions

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Dave on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn leveraging AI to create more time in your day • Other resources mentioned in this conversation:
 • [With Dave Marchick, Dean of the Kogod School of Business] - 
On How AI is Changing AcademiaLost in Transition: Fixing the “Learn to Earn” Skills Gap

346: Learning and teaching transformed by AI: the Future of Higher Education with Dave Treat, Pearson CTO

In this special compilation of AI and the Future of Work, we spotlight four unicorn CEOs who’ve disrupted entire industries using artificial intelligence—while building cultures of urgency, resilience, and relentless innovation.

From scrappy beginnings to billion-dollar valuations, each founder shares what it really takes to build and scale in the AI era.

Featured Guests:

Wade Foster, Co-founder & CEO of Zapier - • Listen to the full conversation: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/14202937 • 

Jonathan Siddharth, CEO of Turing - • Listen to the full conversation: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/15084162 • 

May Habib, Co-founder & CEO of Writer - • Listen to the full conversation: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/13598374 • 

Arvind Jain, Co-founder & CEO of Glean - • Listen to the full conversation: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/12239379 • 

You’ll learn:

 • How successful founders turn early user feedback into fast growth
 • Why operating with urgency can be a competitive advantage in tech
 • What mindset shifts are needed to scale from startup to enterprise
 • How to lead through uncertainty, doubt, and high-pressure decisions
 • The role of resilience and focus in long-term company building
 • Why empowering teams and simplifying execution drives innovation

Whether you're building the next unicorn or leading change within your team, this episode is your behind-the-scenes pass to the mindset, strategy, and grit it takes to win.

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Other special compilation episodes:

Ethical AI in Hiring: How to Stay Compliant While Building a Fairer Future of Work (HR Day Special Episode)Data Privacy Day Special Episode: AI, Deepfakes & The Future of TrustThe Future of AI Ethics Special: Perspectives from Women Leaders in AI on Bias, Accountability & TrustWorld Health Day Special: How AI Is Making Healthcare Smarter, Cheaper, and KinderAI and Safety: How Responsible Tech Leaders Build Trustworthy Systems (National Safety Month Special)

Lessons from Four Unicorn CEOs Disrupting Massive Markets with AI (Special Episode)

Alex Buder Shapiro is the Chief People Officer at Jasper AI, a company with more than 100,000 customers using its AI-first marketing platform and over $125M raised. She is a forward-thinking people leader with a unique perspective on the role of HR and the future of teams, having served in the same position for six years at Flatiron Health and as an HR Business Partner Manager for nearly eight years at Google. Alex studied Political Psychology and Theatre Arts at the University of Pennsylvania.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How Alex’s early career at Google shaped her views on aligned incentives, experimentation, and building high-performing people cultures.
 • Why the employer and employee relationship has shifted dramatically in the last five years, from shared incentives to trade-offs driven by economic and social change.
 • Why AI adoption in the workplace creates both opportunities and anxieties, and how people leaders can design human-centered approaches to integrating AI.
 • The concept of “practicing at the top of your license” and how it applies to redesigning work in an AI-driven future.
 • How the next generation of employees will challenge and reshape workplace structures through their fluency with AI and new ways of learning, mentorship, and problem solving.
 • What responsible AI means for people leaders, including addressing bias, conscious adoption, and collective accountability.

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Alex on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Build High Performance Organization with AI for the Tech Services • Past episodes mentioned in this conversation:
 • [With Dave Marchick, Dean of the Kogod School of Business] - 
On How AI is Changing Academia • [Bryan Power, Nextdoor’s Head of People] - 
On how AI is Reshaping Work and Job Loyalty •

345: Will AI Break or Rebuild Workplace Culture? Trust, Incentives, and the Future of Teams with Alex Buder Shapiro, Chief People Officer at Jasper AI

Paolo Ardoino is the CEO of Tether, the company behind the ticker symbol USDT, the world’s largest stablecoin. He also serves as CTO of the cryptocurrency exchange Bitfinex and co-founded Holepunch, a platform for peer-to-peer applications. Ardoino holds a Master’s in Computer Science from the University of Genoa and is one of the most visible proponents of improving the banking system with cryptocurrencies.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How Paolo built the infrastructure behind the world’s most used stablecoin and why he believes math, not politics, should govern money

 • Why he believes Bitcoin is the first form of money governed by math, and how that math could reshape global finance

 • How USDT became the most used digital dollar by solving practical challenges in regions with limited banking access

 • Why Paolo believes traditional finance is broken and how decentralized tech offers a more inclusive infrastructure

 • The case for brain–computer interfaces and why Paolo sees human and AI symbiosis as the next frontier of intelligence

 • Why he’s optimistic about AI’s role in society, even as he argues that long term AI safety might be an illusion

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Paolo on LinkedIn • or on 
XAI fun fact articleOn How to Ensure the AI and Workplace Technologies Align with Civil Rights Laws

344: Can Decentralized AI Fix Banking? Crypto, Brain OS, and the Future of Finance with Paolo Ardoino, Tether CEO

Kyle Daigle is the Chief Operating Officer at GitHub, the world’s largest host of source code with more than 100 million developers and 420 million repositories. He joined GitHub in 2013 and later served as VP of Strategy and Chief of Staff to the CEO, playing a key role in the company’s 2018 acquisition by Microsoft. Kyle is also the public face of GitHub Copilot, the AI coding assistant launched in 2021 that now helps over 15 million users. Earlier in his career, he was a partner at Digitalworkbox and VP of Product Development at Geezeo.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Kyle’s journey from studying fine arts to leading operations at the world’s largest code platform
 • Why GitHub Copilot is about freeing developers to focus on creativity and solving meaningful problems
 • What it means to bring pragmatism into AI development and why usefulness always wins over hype
 • How AI is lowering the barriers to software creation while keeping humans at the center of accountability
 • The responsibility of platforms like GitHub to protect users from flawed code and teach safe coding by design
 • Kyle’s vision for “ambient AI” and why the future should feel personal, context-aware, and privacy-conscious

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Kyle on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How to Discuss Regulation for LLMs and Legal Advice for Entrepreneurs • Past episodes mentioned in this conversation: [With Patty Hatter, tech exec/board member/advisor] - 
On the best advice for women in technology •

343: Can AI make anyone a developer? The changing role of coders with Kyle Daigle, GitHub COO

Anders Indset is a Norwegian philosopher, author, tech investor, and former Olympic handball player often called “the business philosopher.” He is the founder of the Global Institute of Leadership and Technology and chairman of Njordis Group, a venture firm focused on the intersection of humanity and exponential technologies. Anders has invested in deep tech companies like Terra Quantum and launched The Quantum Economy Alliance to explore the future of innovation. He brings a unique mix of philosophical insight and real-world experience to today’s conversation.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Why Anders believes our economy is society’s “operating system” and how AI might destabilize or enhance it

 • How we’ve built an economy driven by reaction rather than reflection and what it takes to shift toward more thoughtful progress

 • What the “final narcissistic injury” means for humanity as we face the rise of superintelligence

 • Why it's naive to separate economy from ecology and how the concept of the quantum economy offers a new way to align hyper-efficiency with sustainability

 • The difference between artificial general intelligence and artificial human intelligence and why Anders argues for enhancing ourselves before trying to replace us

 • What the technological singularity really is, why it's misunderstood, and how Anders thinks we should prepare for it

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work Newsletter • Connect with Anders on 
LinkedIn • or on his 
website • Explore 
Anders’ published work • , including “The Quantum Economy”
AI fun fact articleOn How to Optimize Hiring Processes and Celebrate Cognitive Diversity

342: From Reaction to Reflection: Philosopher Anders Indset on AI, Consciousness, and the Path to the Singularity

In honor of National Safety Month, this special compilation episode of AI and the Future of Work brings together powerful conversations with four thought leaders focused on designing AI systems that protect users, prevent harm, and promote trust. 

Featuring past guests:

Silvio Savarese (Executive Vice President and Chief Scientist, Salesforce) - • Listen to the full conversation here: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/15548310Navindra Yadav (Co-founder & CEO, Theom) - • Listen to the full conversation here: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/12370356Eric Siegel (CEO, Gooder AI & Author • 
) - • Listen to the full conversation here: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/14464391Ben Kus (CTO, Box) - • Listen to the full conversation here: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/14789034

✅ What You’ll Learn: 

 • What it means to design AI with safety, transparency, and human oversight in mind
 • How leading enterprises approach responsible AI development at scale
 • Why data privacy and permissions are critical to safe AI deployment
 • How to detect and mitigate bias in predictive models
 • Why responsible AI requires balancing speed with long-term impact
 • How trust, explainability, and compliance shape the future of enterprise AI

 

Resources

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work Newsletter • : 
https://aiandwork.beehiiv.com/subscribe • 

Other special compilation episodes 

Ethical AI in Hiring: How to Stay Compliant While Building a Fairer Future of Work (HR Day Special Episode)Data Privacy Day Special Episode: AI, Deepfakes & The Future of TrustThe Future of AI Ethics Special: Perspectives from Women Leaders in AI on Bias, Accountability & TrustWorld Health Day Special: How AI Is Making Healthcare Smarter, Cheaper, and Kinder

AI and Safety: How Responsible Tech Leaders Build Trustworthy Systems (National Safety Month Special)

Marni Baker Stein is the Chief Content Officer at Coursera, the global learning platform with over 175 million learners and partnerships across 6,200 campuses, businesses, and governments. She leads Coursera’s content and credential strategy and manages global partner relationships. Before joining Coursera, Marni was Chief Academic Officer and Provost at Western Governors University, where she oversaw programs for more than 135,000 students. She has also held leadership roles focused on access, student success, and program design at the University of Texas, Columbia University, and the University of Pennsylvania. Marni earned her PhD in Educational Leadership from the University of Pennsylvania.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How AI is shifting education from one-size-fits-all to personalized, contextualized learning tailored to each student
 • Why microcredentials and stackable learning are replacing traditional degrees as the new path for lifelong learners
 • The role of educators in the AI era and why they should be part of the solution, not sidelined by automation
 • What it means for universities to stay relevant as learning becomes more modular, flexible, and job-aligned
 • Why GenAI is fueling demand for both technical skills and enduring human abilities like critical thinking and communication
 • How tools like AI tutors, instant translations, and proctoring are democratizing access and preserving integrity at scale

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Marni on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Identify The Power of Product and Listening to Your Customers. • Past episodes mentioned in this conversation:
 • [With Dave Marchick, Dean of the Kogod School of Business] - 
On How AI is Changing Academia • [Chris Caren, Turnitin CEO] - 
On using AI to prevent students from cheating plus lessons for leaders on innovation and team culture

341: How AI is Changing Education: The Future of Accessible Learning with Marni Baker Stein, Coursera CCO

Neelima Parasker started coding at a young age. Inspired by her entrepreneur mother, she studied Computer Science and Mechanical Engineering before eventually starting SnapIT Solutions. Neelima's passion for investing in unproven talent has guided her as a leader. She's an active entrepreneur coach and is involved in many civic organizations in and around the Kansas City area.

Listen and learn...

 1. The single most important lesson for parents looking to cultivate a love of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math in their kids.
 2. How Neelima has built a culture around her belief that we should "use technology to grow people, not the other way around."
 3. How glass ceilings for women and under-represented minorities can be shattered.
 4. How governments should take responsibility for improving access to STEM education.
 5. Why Neelima isn't afraid of bots taking jobs because "our faults make us human."

References in today's episode...

SnapIT SolutionsJoe Rehmann from Victory Farms on AI and the Future of WorkFilip Dousek on AI and the Future of Work

Neelima Parasker, CEO of SnapIT Solutions, shares the recipe for making high-quality STEM education accessible to all

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