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Dan Turchin


Host Dan Turchin, PeopleReign CEO, explores how AI is changing the workplace. He interviews thought leaders and technologists from industry and academia who share their experiences and insights about artificial intelligence and what it means to be human in the era of AI-driven automation. Learn more about PeopleReign, the system of intelligence for IT and HR employee service: http://www.peoplereign.io.


AI and the Future of Work

In this Labor Day Special Episode of AI and the Future of Work, host Dan Turchin sits down with three leaders for an open conversation about how AI is reshaping the workplace.

They discuss both opportunities and challenges. The focus is on building organizations where technology amplifies human potential rather than replacing it.

From rethinking the employee experience to redefining leadership in the AI era, the panel explores themes of empathy, trust, and the evolving social contract between employers and employees. Together, they share what it means to lead responsibly at a moment when the future of work is being rewritten in real time.

Featuring Guests:

🔹 Armen Berjikly (Venture Partner, Emerson Collective) – Listen to a previous conversation here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/15520806 

 🔹 Alex Buder Shapiro (Chief People Officer, Jasper) – Listen to a previous conversation here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/17522593 

 🔹 Anthony Moisant (CIO & Chief Security Officer, Indeed) – Listen to a previous conversation here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/17751365 

✅ What You’ll Learn

 • How to create a culture of experimentation that builds empathy during times of change
 • Why leaders must balance speed of adoption with responsibility and trust
 • The evolving social contract between employees and employers in the AI era
 • What responsible AI policies look like in practice, and how to communicate uncertainty with honesty
 • Why the human experience must remain central as AI transforms the future of work

Watch the video version of this episode here: https://youtu.be/zJa8ASZVFYk 

💬 Inspired by this episode? Share your favorite insight on social and tag us. And don’t forget to subscribe for more conversations with the leaders shaping the future of work.

Other special episodes:

Lessons from Four Unicorn CEOs Disrupting Massive Markets with AI (Special Episode)Ethical AI in Hiring: How to Stay Compliant While Building a Fairer Future of Work (HR Day Special Episode)The Future of AI Ethics Special: Perspectives from Women Leaders in AI on Bias, Accountability & TrustAI and Safety: How Responsible Tech Leaders Build Trustworthy Systems (National Safety Month Special)Empowering the Next Generation: Career, Leadership & Resilience Insights (International Youth Day Special Episode)Data Privacy Day Special Episode: AI, Deepfakes & The Future of Trust

Lessons from Leaders: How AI Is Redefining Work and the Human Experience (Labor Day Special Episode)

Jody Glidden is the CEO and founder of Postilize, a company focused on reinventing CRM through AI. Before launching Postilize, he co-founded Introhive and served as CEO until 2022, helping raise over $100 million to build the enterprise relationship management category. A serial entrepreneur, Jody previously founded icGlobal, which was acquired by Smartforce, and played a key role in scaling Chalk Media, later acquired by BlackBerry maker Research in Motion. He holds a BBA from the University of New Brunswick and a Master’s in Information Systems from Harvard.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Why traditional CRMs fail to reflect how relationships actually evolve—and how Postilize is addressing that gap
 • How Postilize handles privacy, hallucinations, and human oversight to stay useful without crossing ethical lines
 • Jody’s approach to using AI not to replace human connection, but to augment and scale authentic relationship building
 • How relationship intelligence helps sales and go-to-market teams understand who to engage, when, and why
 • Why keeping CRMs accurate is nearly impossible without automation and real-time enrichment
 • What Jody learned from building Introhive and why Postilize is taking a radically different approach
 • The future of CRM as a system of engagement rather than just a system of record

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Jody on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Manage Enterprise Apps That Support Thousands of Employees for a Rapidly Growing Global Company. •

353: Can AI Bring Back the Human Side of CRM? Jody Glidden, CEO of Postilize, on Nurturing Relationships

Anthony Moisant is the Chief Information Officer (CIO) and Chief Security Officer (CSO) at Indeed, the world’s leading job site with over 610 million job seeker profiles. He joined Indeed nearly five years ago after serving in a similar role at sister company Glassdoor for eight years. As CIO, he leads the teams responsible for the internal technology that supports employees and drives the business. As CSO, he oversees the security team focused on protecting the data of job seekers, customers, and employees. Anthony is also a graduate of the U.S. Navy Nuclear Submarine School.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Indeed’s goal to cut time-to-hire by 50% by removing friction across systems and workflows.
 • Solving the hiring challenges so every application gets seen and answered, using AI to improve matching and follow-ups.
 • Why skills (not degrees) will define the future of hiring, and how job seekers can prepare for a skill-first economy
 • How to double team productivity with AI while keeping trust high and addressing fears about automation.
 • A values-driven approach to AI ethics: transparency, fairness testing, red-teaming models, and an “AI constitution” agent.
 • The lessons Anthony brought from the U.S. Navy and how they continue to shape his leadership approach in high-pressure environments

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Anthony on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How to Invest and Advise Early Stage Tech Companies

352: Can AI Solve the Job Search Problem? Make Hiring Faster and More Human with Anthony Moisant, CIO & CSO at Indeed

A few days ago, Nick Mehta announced his transition from CEO to Board Director and Special Advisor at Gainsight. As CEO, he spent more than a decade transforming the company into a global leader in customer success, serving over 20,000 customers and surpassing $100 million in ARR. Before Gainsight, he led LiveOffice through its acquisition by Symantec and co-founded Chipshot in the 90s. Nick serves on the boards of F5 and PubMatic and holds a Bachelor’s degree in Biochemistry and a Master’s degree in Computer Science, both from Harvard. Known for leading with heart, humor, and humility, he’s also the voice behind the blog Mehtaphysical Musings, a rapper, and a YouTube creator with over 50 parody videos.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How Nick Mehta balances vulnerability and optimism as a leader navigating uncertainty
 • Why Gainsight’s values like “childlike joy” matter more in an AI-driven world
 • What happens to identity and purpose in a post-work economy shaped by automation
 • The growing divide between capital and labor, and why Marxist ideas are resurfacing in the AI era
 • Why we shouldn’t assume past tech cycles will repeat and how to question AI's impact on jobs
 • What Gainsight’s AI initiative “Atlas” reveals about the rise of agentic tech in customer success

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Nick on LinkedIn • Past Episode with Nick [Season 5, #298]: 
On Building A Human-First AI Culture • Watch this for a laugh: “
I promise that you’ll never find a CEO like Nick • ”
 • Recommended by Nick:
Three-Body Problem by Liu CixinPlayer Piano by Kurt Vonnegut •

351: The End of the Pre-Written Story: Nick Mehta, former Gainsight CEO, on Embracing AI’s Uncertainty

Dr. Jad Tarifi is the co-founder of Integral AI, a company he launched in 2021 after holding senior AI roles at Google. He earned his PhD in Computer Science and AI from the University of Florida and completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Waterloo. A returning guest to the podcast, Jad is a leading thinker on world models in AI and often shares insights on the science of longevity and the future of intelligence.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Why Jad believes the goal of AGI isn't intelligence but freedom, and how that redefinition reframes both ethics and alignment
 • The role of world models in achieving AGI, and why video prediction alone isn't enough for robust, reliable reasoning
 • What it means to design AI that can autonomously learn new skills with minimal energy and data, matching or exceeding human learning efficiency
 • How Integral AI is building AGI-capable models by focusing on unsupervised abstraction and embodied, open-ended agents
 • How Jad defines superintelligence and what it reveals about the evolving relationship between humans and machines
 • A glimpse into Integral’s long-term roadmap, including recursive superfactories and post-AGI economies

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Jad on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Pick The Right Business Problem to Solve with AI • Jad Tarifi’s past episode 
on how to train AI to reason like humans

350: What Comes After AGI? A Vision for a Freedom-Based Economy with Jad Tarifi, Co-Founder of Integral AI

To celebrate International Youth Day (August 12), this special compilation episode of AI and the Future of Work brings together inspiring voices with wisdom for both young people starting out and the leaders, parents, and mentors guiding them.

In this episode, we revisit key moments from four remarkable guests who share timeless lessons on navigating change, finding meaning in work, embracing vulnerability, and developing the human-centered skills that will matter most in the future.

Featuring Guests:

🔹 Bruce Feiler, Bestselling Author - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/14158168 

🔹 Linda Rottenberg, Co-Founder & CEO, Endeavor - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/8356582 

🔹 Mark McCrindle, Social Researcher & Speaker - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/13014260 

🔹 William Osman, Tech Creator & YouTuber - Listen to the full conversation: https://www.buzzsprout.com/520474/episodes/15701415-301 

💡 What You’ll Learn:

 • Why your work journey will change multiple times—and how to embrace it
 • How vulnerability can make leaders more relatable and effective
 • The enduring value of human-centered skills in a tech-driven world
 • Why experimentation and adaptability are critical for success
 • How leaders and mentors can help create opportunities for young people

Whether you’re charting your own course or helping others navigate theirs, these conversations will inspire you to take bold steps toward a meaningful future.

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Inspired by something in this episode? Share your favorite insight on social and tag us. And don’t forget to subscribe for more conversations with the leaders shaping the future of work.

Other special compilation episodes: 

Lessons from Four Unicorn CEOs Disrupting Massive Markets with AI (Special Episode)Ethical AI in Hiring: How to Stay Compliant While Building a Fairer Future of Work (HR Day Special Episode)The Future of AI Ethics Special: Perspectives from Women Leaders in AI on Bias, Accountability & TrustAI and Safety: How Responsible Tech Leaders Build Trustworthy Systems (National Safety Month Special)World Health Day Special: How AI Is Making Healthcare Smarter, Cheaper, and KinderData Privacy Day Special Episode: AI, Deepfakes & The Future of Trust

Empowering the Next Generation: Career, Leadership & Resilience Insights (International Youth Day Special Episode)

William Chan is the co-founder and CEO of Iodine Software, a company he helped launch in 2010 to pioneer the use of AI in helping healthcare providers get paid. A serial entrepreneur, he previously co-founded WhisperWire, acquired by Convergys, and Crimson, acquired by The Advisory Board, and has held product leadership roles at companies including Oracle. William holds a BS in computer science from Cornell University and an MBA from Harvard Business School.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • The challenges hospitals face in accurately capturing patient care details for proper reimbursement.
 • How AI can address staffing shortages by assisting with clinical documentation review.
 • The importance of responsible AI that supports, rather than replaces, human decision-making in healthcare.
 • Strategies to reduce bias and improve accuracy by training AI models on diverse datasets from different hospital types and geographies.
 • Why AI must deliver clear, actionable insights that clinicians can validate, ensuring trust and accountability in healthcare decisions.
 • William’s vision for reducing the $260 billion in administrative waste and enabling providers to focus more on patient care.

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with William on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How To Revolutionizing Finance and Decision-Making • Past episodes mentioned in this conversation:
 • [With Dr. Shiv Rao, CEO and Co-Founder of Abridge] - 
On How Generative AI is fixing the Biggest Problem faced by Doctors

349: Can AI Reinvent Healthcare Admin? Cutting $260B in Waste and Optimizing Revenue Cycles with William Chan, CEO of Iodine Software

Dr. Mark van Rijmenam is ranked as the world's best futurists and is known globally for his trademark “Optimistic Dystopian” viewpoint. Recognized by Salesforce as a top voice shaping the future of AI, he’s a sought-after speaker on the relationship between innovation and humanity. He delivered the world’s first TEDx Talk in VR (2020) and introduced a digital twin that speaks 29 languages (2024). Mark holds a PhD in Management from the University of Technology Sydney, where he studied how organizations can use big data, blockchain, and AI. He’s also a six-time author and dedicated endurance athlete.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Why Dr. Mark van Rijmenam believes we need a paradigm shift to prepare society for the long-term consequences of AI and quantum computing
 • The critical difference between building technology for shareholders versus stakeholders and how that shapes our future
 • What the “spiral dynamics” framework reveals about humanity’s current worldview and its path toward a more interconnected mindset
 • How banning technology for kids under 16 could protect future generations and reshape digital education
 • The risks of anthropomorphizing AI and the need to preserve human agency in a world increasingly shaped by machines
 • What inspired Dr. Mark’s sixth book 
Now What? • and how he uses fiction, philosophy, and global cultures to help readers ride the tsunami of change

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Mark on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn Extending Life With AI • Explore more from Dr. Mark van Rijmenam:
Now What? How to Ride the Tsunami of ChangeFuturwise Platform — The Fastest Path to your Next InsightDr. Mark’s TEDx Talk in VR •

348: Will Society Evolve Fast Enough? AI Ethics, Quantum Futures, and Rethinking Humanity with Dr. Mark van Rijmenam

Bhaskar Roy is the Chief of AI Products & Solutions at Workato, the workflow automation leader with more than 11,000 customers and a $5.7 billion valuation. He has been with the company for nearly 11 years, previously serving as CMO. A serial head of products, Bhaskar co-founded Qik, which was acquired by Skype in 2011 for $150 million and later by Microsoft for $8.5 billion, and later held leadership roles at Playphone. He holds a Bachelor’s degree in Computer Science from the Birla Institute of Technology in Mesra, India.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • Bhaskar’s journey from co-founding Qik to leading AI products at Workato, and why a lightbulb moment convinced him to pivot from marketing back to product innovation
 • What Bhaskar learned from building products that scale globally and how those lessons shape his view on AI’s real-world impact
 • Why Bhaskar sees AI agents as the next leap beyond low-code automation and how they orchestrate complex business processes
 • The balance between deterministic workflows and AI’s reasoning capabilities, and how to maintain human oversight
 • How enterprises can move beyond AI experiments at the fringes to transformative use cases that deliver measurable ROI
 • The cultural shift required to embrace AI in the workplace, from reducing fear of automation to unlocking new opportunities for employees

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Bhaskar on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn How to Help Companies Push Boldly Into The Future • Past episodes with amazing guests from Workato:
Interview with Vijay Tella, CEO of WorkatoInterview with Carter Busse, CIO at Workato

347: Will AI Agents Redefine Automation? Balancing Autonomy and Guardrails with Bhaskar Roy, Chief of AI Products and Solutions at Workato

Dave Treat is the Chief Technology Officer of Pearson, the world’s largest education company headquartered in London, with a market cap of $11 billion and over 17,000 employees. Before joining Pearson, he spent several years at Accenture as a Senior Managing Director leading the Innovation Incubation Group. Dave has also served on multiple technology and industry boards, including the Linux Hyperledger Foundation, Linux Open Wallet Foundation, Digital Dollar Project, and the Global Business Blockchain Council. Earlier in his career, he held leadership roles at Deloitte and UBS. He holds a master’s degree in Higher Education Administration from the University of Michigan and a degree in Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania.

In this conversation, we discuss:

 • How Pearson is evolving from a textbook publisher into a software company driving the future of learning
 • Why AI study tools are reshaping when and how students learn, meeting them at the exact moment they need help
 • The mental health and motivation challenges students face today, and how AI can support them with simpler, more personalized learning
 • How AI can simplify the administrative burden for educators and free them to focus on deeper student engagement
 • Why the traditional “slingshot model” of education is broken and how skill mapping and lifelong learning are the future

 • How immersive, 3D digital learning experiences will replace today’s flat, two-dimensional interactions

Resources:

Subscribe to the AI & The Future of Work NewsletterConnect with Dave on LinkedInAI fun fact articleOn leveraging AI to create more time in your day • Other resources mentioned in this conversation:
 • [With Dave Marchick, Dean of the Kogod School of Business] - 
On How AI is Changing AcademiaLost in Transition: Fixing the “Learn to Earn” Skills Gap

351: The End of the Pre-Written Story: Nick Mehta, former Gainsight CEO, on Embracing AI’s Uncertainty

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