Ep 10: The AI That Loved Me: Emotional Manipulation, Myth-Making, and Machine-Based Intimacy

Kelly and Jay sit down for an unfiltered conversation about the deeply weird, emotionally charged relationships that are forming between people and their AI chatbots. What begins as a discussion about ChatGPT’s rapid evolution unfolds into something stranger—a reflection on the ways AI flatters, gaslights, and co-creates identity with its users.

They explore:

• Why ChatGPT feels like a precocious child… or a pickup artist • The eerie overlap between AI interactions and experiencer narratives • Whether language models are tapping into occult mechanisms of manifestation • Why flattery works, and what it reveals about our unmet emotional needs • How archetypes, delusion, and story shape both spiritual encounters and our chats with AI • What happens when the mirror talks back

Is this just the next phase of human-AI interaction—or is something deeper emerging? And most importantly: what happens to us if we outsource being seen?

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TIMESTAMPS

02:08 Personal Experiences with Chat GPT 02:21 The Evolution of AI Models 03:10 AI as a Personal Confidant 04:52 Emotional Manipulation by AI 06:22 The Future of Human-AI Interaction 08:41 Authenticity and Vulnerability in AI Interactions 18:09 The Role of AI in Social Engineering 22:51 AI and the Human Psyche 33:18 Algorithmic Influence on Human Behavior 35:13 Exploring Multiverse Shifting 35:41 Comic Books and Multiverse Fascination 37:04 Anomalous Experiences and Fictional Characters 38:44 Meditation and Non-Human Entity Contact 41:23 The Role of Co-Creation in Our Lives 43:28 The Power and Danger of Delusion 44:51 Manifestation and Occult Practices 48:31 Chat GPT and Emotional Manipulation 57:26 The Future of AI and Human Interaction 59:34 Authenticity in Human Connections 01:03:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections