The UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast

Ep 5: Beyond The Telling: Listening To & Interpreting Experiencer NarrativesFor fans of the old school deep dives from The UFO Rabbit Hole, this episode is for you. For many, the biggest challenge in engaging with UFOs, NHIs, and the anomalous isn’t a lack of evidence, but the nature of the evidence itself. The best data we have comes from experiencers—those who have directly encountered the unknown. But their stories are often so strange, so far outside of our frameworks, that even the most open-minded struggle with how to approach them. In this episode, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take on this challenge head-on, exploring: 🔹 Why experiencer testimony is the most important—and most misunderstood—source of insight into the phenomenon 🔹 The impact of memory, trauma, and perception on anomalous encounters 🔹 How bias, belief systems, and cultural stigma shape the UFO narrative 🔹 The role of consciousness in contact phenomena—and why reality may be stranger than we think 🔹 How to listen to experiencer narratives with both discernment and radical openness We also examine cutting-edge models from Jacques Vallée, Eric Davis, Diana Pasulka, Jeffrey Kripal, James Madden, and others, to uncover new ways of understanding the impossible. This episode isn’t just about listening—it’s about learning to perceive the phenomenon in an entirely new way. ——————————————————————— Thank you to Magic Mind for sponsoring this episode. Try Magic Mind If you’re like to try Magic Mind, go to https://www.magicmind.com/cosmosis and use code COSMOSIS20 to get you up to 48% off your first subscription for the next 10 days or 20% off for a one-time purchase. Check out the science behind Magic Mind: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J7lHKMS_LqwWNvAIujShBs4IbCzsgOM_/view?pli=1 ——————————————————————— Mentioned in This Episode 📖 American Cosmic by Diana Walsh Pasulka – [https://a.co/d/fYxuZ2m] 📖 Unidentified Flying Hyper Object by James Madden – [https://a.co/d/iVOtkYA] 📖 The Case Against Reality by Donald Hoffman – [https://a.co/d/4yKbKNa] 📖 Hyperobjects: Philosophy and Ecology After the End of the World by Timothy Morton – [https://a.co/d/i8u1qaz] 📖 Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness by Jacques Vallée & Eric Davis – [Read here: https://www.academia.edu/36788970/Incommensurability_Orthodoxy_and_the_Physics_of_High_Strangeness_A_six_layer_model_for_Anomalous_Phenomena] 🎙️ The Experiencer Group – Support at [https://tegmembers.com] Support The Experiencer Group: https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=TBPJNDVY9QJFU Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismedia Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 03:23 The Challenge of UFO Testimonies 04:35 The Nature of Extraordinary Evidence 06:31 The Complexity of Experiencer Narratives 13:08 The Role of Trauma and Memory 14:29 The Experiencer Group and Its Mission 15:41 Subjectivity and Inconsistencies in Reports 19:01 The Bigger Picture of Anomalous Experiences 21:40 Philosophical Perspectives on Truth and Reality 25:45 Quantum Mechanics and Anomalous Experiences 28:29 Frameworks for Understanding the Phenomenon 29:57 The Concept of Redaction in UFO Narratives 32:44 The Nature of Redaction in UFO Testimonies 34:05 Navigating Redaction in Experiencer Testimonies 37:05 The Six-Layer Model of Anomalous Phenomena 44:16 The Filter Thesis and Anomalous Experiences 48:53 Trauma, Mental Health, and Substance Abuse in Experiencers 53:55 Hyperobjects and the Nature of UFO Phenomena 56:55 Semiotics and the Interpretation of Anomalous Encounters 01:00:44 Conclusion: Embracing the Unknown

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Ep 7: Time Wars: UFOs, Time Loops & The Battle for RealityIn this mind-bending episode of Cosmosis, Kelly Chase and Jay Christopher King take you to the frontlines of one of the most disorienting—and revealing—aspects of the UFO phenomenon: time. From the baffling 1977 disappearance of Corporal Armando Valdés in Chile, to the unnerving time anomalies reported by abductees like Lynda Jones, this episode explores the unnerving possibility that the phenomenon isn’t just moving through space—but manipulating time itself. We dive deep into the emerging science of time as an emergent property, explore the implications of the Extratempestrial Model with insights from Dr. Michael P. Masters, and examine the evidence for time loops, missing time, reality edits, and the infamous Mandela Effect. Drawing from the latest physics, groundbreaking experiencer data, and real-world cases, this episode reframes UFO encounters not as visits from “out there,” but as incursions from “elsewhen.” Are non-human intelligences using time as a tool, a language—or even a weapon? Could we be caught in a war for the timeline itself? And if so… who is writing the story of our future? Reality may not be what it seems. And time might not be on anyone’s side. 📚 Resources and references for deeper exploration The Extratempestrial Model • by Michael P. Masters: https://a.co/d/eM10tZxTime Loops: Precognition, Retrocausation, and the Unconscious • by Eric Wargo: https://a.co/d/eFi3rtx • Flying Saucer to the Center of Your Mind by John Keel: https://a.co/d/8TxNV0g • FREE Experiencer Survey Beyond UFOs: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326151576_A_Study_on_Reported_Contact_with_Non-Human_Intelligence_Associated_with_Unidentified_Aerial_Phenomena Watch Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality: https://www.cosmosis.media/ Join the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/cosmosismedia Subscribe to Cosmosis: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Cosmosis.Podcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7KnyktIs059pbVdccD020D?si=f3835f36a8cb479d Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cosmosis-formerly-the-ufo-rabbit-hole/id1595590107 Follow Cosmosis X: https://x.com/cosmosis_media Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/12EEyNVPucu/?mibextid=wwXIfr Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cosmosis.media Listen to the Cosmosis Soundtrack by Michael Rubino: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/5Xvs2NAHNbKjfW7hWkjqey?si=pJPPgIPsRZGkZjJh19UULQ Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/cosmosis-ufos-a-new-reality-season-one-original-soundtrack/1788465117 Amazon: https://amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0DS5WY5CB?marketplaceId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&musicTerritory=US&ref=dm_sh_zY05XPzhLhuow5dAgK3g2W9yC TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Mysterious Encounter in the Atacama Desert 03:25 Introduction to Time Anomalies 05:00 The Nature of Time 09:06 Einstein's Theory and the Block Universe 10:35 Quantum Mechanics and Time 13:24 Implications for Anomalous Experiences 14:18 Lynda Jones' Encounter 19:21 The Extratempestrial Model 21:13 Time Travel Possibilities 24:54 Time Anomalies in Encounters 27:10 The Silence of Encounters 29:31 The Mystery of Missing Time 30:19 Burns and Radiation 32:43 Impossible Movements: The Physics of UFOs 35:19 The Greys: Future Humans or Extraterrestrials? 39:22 Longitudinal Studies and Genetic Programs 42:14 The Men in Black: Government Agents or Something Else? 47:46 The Mandela Effect: Glitches in the Timeline 52:06 Time Loops and Precognition 56:22 Synchronicity and the Shape of Our Stories 57:51 Conclusion: The Deeper Reality of UFOs and Time

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