Nadia joins Erik, Dan and Antonio to debate the different movements in tech and determine what they should be doing to achieve the impact they want to have. Nadia is a tech researcher (nadia.xyz.) and the author of Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software. Moment of Zen is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: Turpentine.co If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen

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TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Episode Preview (01:03) New Podcast recommendation: In The Arena (01:28) Why it’s important to break down the elite camps and their worldviews (02:51) Elite bracket breakdown (10:00) Technooptimism, AI, and regulation (12:08) Davos mindset versus revolutionaries (13:00) Why doesn’t tech support the arts? (15:00) Sponsor: Secureframe (17:00) Tech needs to tell a better story (21:42) Where does Elon fit into this framework? (23:13) Institutionalists vs anti-institutionalists (Elon, Sachs, Sam Altman, Thiel, Vijaya) (35:00) How does the tech worldview enter politics and public stewardship successfully? (39:00) Is Twitter an institution? (42:00) Antonio’s depressing statement (48:30) How the desire for high status in a digital world has affected local philanthropy (55:44) Who are the most high status people in the world? High status education? (01:04:00) Building parallel institutions (01:08:00) Nadia discusses her article about GitHub (01:15:00) What do American intellectuals get? Experts? Substackers? (01:17:00) Idea machines

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