The Tim Ferriss Show

#782: Legendary Inventor Danny Hillis (Plus Kevin Kelly) — Unorthodox Lessons from 400+ Patents, Solving the Impossible, Real Al vs. “AI”, Hiring Richard Feynman, Working with Steve Jobs, Creating Parallel Computing, and Much MoreDanny Hillis is an inventor, scientist, author, and engineer. While completing his doctorate at MIT, he pioneered the parallel computers that are the basis for the processors used for AI and most high-performance computer chips. He is now a founding partner with Applied Invention, working on new ideas in cybersecurity, medicine, and agriculture. Kevin Kelly is the founding executive editor of WIRED magazine, the former editor and publisher of the Whole Earth Review, and a bestselling author of books on technology and culture, including Excellent Advice for Living. Subscribe to Kevin’s newsletter, Recomendo, at recomendo.com. Sponsors: Momentous high-quality supplements: https://livemomentous.com/tim (code TIM for 20% off) Eight Sleep’s Pod 4 Ultra sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://eightsleep.com/tim (save between $400 and $600 on the Pod 4 Ultra) AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim (1-year supply of Vitamin D (and 5 free AG1 travel packs) with your first subscription purchase.) * Timestamps: [00:00] Who are Danny Hillis and Kevin Kelly? [07:56] How Danny and Kevin first met through Stewart Brand. [09:58] The funniest person who ever opened Danny’s interview box of unusual objects. [14:01] Danny’s transition to Disney as a Disney Fellow and Vice President of Imagineering. [19:12] The contrast between engineering and artistic approaches to problem-solving. [28:56] The development of parallel computing and founding Thinking Machines. [37:15] The three criteria by which projects are chosen at Applied Invention. [40:36] Zero-trust packet routing (ZPR) and the future of cybersecurity. [46:46] Learning by “hanging out” with experts like Seymour Papert, Marvin Minsky, and Richard Feynman. [59:20] Danny’s work in biotechnology and cancer research with David Agus. [01:07:44] Staying sustainable with systems-oriented thinking in agriculture — as nature intended. [01:16:10] Danny’s superpower. [01:17:48] Homeschooling, education on the move, and the influence of Mrs. Wilner. [01:22:00] The failure of Thinking Machines and other regrets/surprises. [01:26:00] The “Entanglement” that blurs natural and technological boundaries. [01:30:54] The current state of AI versus true intelligence. [01:34:34] How AI may help humanity better understand its place on the intelligence spectrum. [01:39:42] What the future looks like to a short-term pessimist/long-term optimist. [01:50:50] The cone of silence we never heard from again. [01:53:10] Debugging dementia and other diseases. [01:58:05] The MRI alternative Danny’s tackling. [02:00:51] We don’t we have a freezer version of the consumer microwave oven? [02:01:23] Danny’s place in pinch-to-zoom iPhone innovation history. [02:04:51] The pros and cons of patents for inventors and society. [02:08:01] Inventors Danny finds inspiring. [02:10:04] Danny’s cause-and-effect heresy. [02:14:47] Quantum computing and its implications. [02:18:34] The scientific pursuit of understanding consciousness. [02:23:00] The question Danny asks himself before investing time in a project. [02:25:26] Danny’s 10,000-year billboard. [02:29:49] Parting thoughts. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books. 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#788: Naval Ravikant and Aaron Stupple — How to Raise a Sovereign Child, A Freedom-Maximizing Approach to ParentingAaron Stupple (@astupple) is the author of The Sovereign Child: How a Forgotten Philosophy Can Liberate Kids and Their Parents. Naval Ravikant (@naval) is the co-founder of AngelList. He has invested in more than 100 companies, including many mega-successes, such as Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Wish. Stick around after the end of our three-person conversation to listen to an exclusive bonus segment that Naval and Aaron recorded with extra practical tips, as well as incremental, day-to-day experiments you can test and apply. It’s super tactical, so you won’t want to miss it. It begins at 02:17:01. Sponsors: Sundays for Dogs ultra-high-quality dog food: https://sundaysfordogs.com/tim (save 50% on your first order) Seed's DS-01® Daily Synbiotic broad spectrum 24-strain probiotic + prebiotic: https://Seed.com/Tim (Use code 25TIM for 25% off your first month's supply) ShipStation shipping software: https://www.shipstation.com/tim (60-day free trial!) Timestamps: [00:00] Coming up in this episode [08:40] Who is Aaron, and what makes him qualified to dispense parenting advice? [13:44] Taking Children Seriously (TCS) and The Sovereign Child philosophies. [17:49] The David Deutsch influence on these tenets. [22:57] Supporting evidence and long-term case studies. [27:17] Ways Naval and Aaron have incorporated these philosophies into their own parenting. [31:13] How rules work while parenting for freedom-maximizing. [37:42] Why building knowledge beats coercion. [43:41] Non-negotiables. [46:35] Is this method of parenting only accessible to the educated elite? [50:05] Handling sibling conflict. [54:41] How do freedom-maximized kids adapt to an adulthood of endless societal rules? [58:55] When kids present counter-accountability. [01:00:41] One tool does not fix all. [01:03:52] Putting mistakes to good use. [01:08:00] Homeschooling, unschooling, and socialization challenges. [01:15:56] Building resilience. [01:20:23] Coping with food and drink cravings. [01:25:54] Avoiding the terminology of confirmation bias. [01:31:37] Sports. [01:35:09] Organically cultivating interests. [01:38:11] The pros and cons of traditional schooling. [01:47:24] Parental disagreements and avoiding hypocrisy. [01:57:18] Four categories of harm that come from rules. [02:00:38] The benefits of optional constraints. [02:05:32] Body Electric. [02:07:03] Things you should know before visiting the emergency room. [02:13:18] A hierarchy of knowledge and lessons learned from this conversation. [02:17:19] Tactics for addressing sibling (and spousal) conflict. [02:19:47] Tactics to foster learning. [02:22:54] The best baby (and adult) sitter. [02:26:07] Parenting into the teen years. [02:27:54] Tactics for forming good sleep habits. [02:31:20] Tactics for encouraging good eating habits. [02:37:34] Tactics for freedom-maximizing. [02:42:56] Tactics for minimizing screen and social media obsession. [02:55:29] Too cool for rules. [03:00:14] All information is subject to challenge. [03:03:10] Happiness and creativity cannot be forced. * For show notes and past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast. For deals from sponsors of The Tim Ferriss Show, please visit tim.blog/podcast-sponsors Sign up for Tim’s email newsletter (5-Bullet Friday) at tim.blog/friday. For transcripts of episodes, go to tim.blog/transcripts. Discover Tim’s books: tim.blog/books. Follow Tim: Twitter: twitter.com/tferriss Instagram: instagram.com/timferriss YouTube: youtube.com/timferriss Facebook: facebook.com/timferriss LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/timferriss Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James, Kevin Hart, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Jamie Foxx, Matthew McConaughey, Esther Perel, Elizabeth Gilbert, Terry Crews, Sia, Yuval Noah Harari, Malcolm Gladwell, Madeleine Albright, Cheryl Strayed, Jim Collins, Mary Karr, Maria Popova, Sam Harris, Michael Phelps, Bob Iger, Edward Norton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Neil Strauss, Ken Burns, Maria Sharapova, Marc Andreessen, Neil Gaiman, Neil de Grasse Tyson, Jocko Willink, Daniel Ek, Kelly Slater, Dr. Peter Attia, Seth Godin, Howard Marks, Dr. Brené Brown, Eric Schmidt, Michael Lewis, Joe Gebbia, Michael Pollan, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Vince Vaughn, Brian Koppelman, Ramit Sethi, Dax Shepard, Tony Robbins, Jim Dethmer, Dan Harris, Ray Dalio, Naval Ravikant, Vitalik Buterin, Elizabeth Lesser, Amanda Palmer, Katie Haun, Sir Richard Branson, Chuck Palahniuk, Arianna Huffington, Reid Hoffman, Bill Burr, Whitney Cummings, Rick Rubin, Dr. Vivek Murthy, Darren Aronofsky, Margaret Atwood, Mark Zuckerberg, Peter Thiel, Dr. Gabor Maté, Anne Lamott, Sarah Silverman, Dr. Andrew Huberman, and many more. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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