In this bonus episode, Leo sits down with Derek Sivers to explore harnessing fear as a source of energy, mastering courage, and aligning values with actions in the pursuit of meaningful work.

Dive into this captivating conversation filled with wisdom and valuable insights! Topics Covered • The concept of "fear as energy" and how it can be harnessed for creative pursuits • The importance of choosing work that excites you rather than drains you • The significance of taking the first step to engage with inspiration and start your journey • The idea of embracing discomfort and stepping out of one's comfort zone • The concept of self-talk and the role of inspiration in creative endeavors • The practice of cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) in journaling to challenge beliefs • The role of predicting and imagining the future in human decision-making • The story of Buridan's donkey and avoiding indecision by choosing one task to start • Recognizing that you can do anything but not everything, and focusing on one passion at a time

ResourcesDerek's websiteDerek's list of favorite books • Book: Anything You Want: 40 lessons for a new kind of entrepreneur • (2011) • Book: How To Live: 27 Conflicting Answers and One Weird Question • (2021) • Book: Useful Not True: whatever works for you Connect with Leo Zen Habits

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Email: [email protected] Resources The Fearless Living Academy Credits Intro music composition: Salem Beladonna & Robrecht Dumarey

Editor: Justin Cruz