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Shawn O’Malley and Daniel Mahncke revisit Uber (NYSE: UBER), one of the largest holdings in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio, fifteen months after they first pitched it. In that time, Uber’s operating profits have roughly doubled, free cash flow has climbed to about $10 billion a year, gross bookings are compounding around 20% annually, and the board authorized a new $20 billion buyback. And yet the stock is flat, with its multiple of operating profits cut from 55 times down to roughly 22 times.

Shawn and Daniel discuss why the market is pricing Uber as though autonomy ends the story — Waymo raising $16 billion at a $126 billion valuation, roughly the same market cap as all of Uber, and formally ending its exclusive partnerships in Austin and Atlanta. They dig into the more than 20 AV partners Uber has lined up in response, from Nuro and Lucid to Rivian, NVIDIA, Zoox, WeRide, Baidu, and Pony.ai, plus Uber’s $14.8 billion offer for Delivery Hero, the margin inflection driven by advertising, insurance normalization, and Uber One — and whether the market is writing down the entire company for a risk that touches maybe a tenth of its profits.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:04:06) Why Uber’s stock is flat while its operating profits have doubled

(00:07:19) How Uber’s operating margins swung 55 percentage points in under six years

(00:08:40) Why advertising, Uber One, and insurance reform keep pushing margins higher

(00:28:49) What Waymo ending its exclusive deals in Austin and Atlanta really means

(00:41:17) How much of Uber’s profits are genuinely exposed to robotaxis

(00:50:29) Why Uber is racing to sign more than 20 autonomous vehicle partners

(00:58:04) What Uber’s $14.8 billion offer for Delivery Hero actually buys it

(01:06:39) Why Shawn and Daniel are happy to keep owning Uber

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TIP844: Uber (UBER): The Autonomy Referendum — Is Mr. Market Completely Wrong? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

In today’s episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley break down AppLovin, the mobile advertising platform that went from a failed app recommendation tool to one of the most profitable businesses in ad tech. They walk through how the company makes money on both sides of the ad exchange, why its data advantage has been so hard for competitors to copy, and what caused the market to turn on the stock so violently after a relatively strong quarter. Along the way, they dig into the founder’s track record, the buyback program that made early shareholders rich, and whether the growth story still has room to run.

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(00:00:00) Intro

(00:03:11) How a failed app became a global advertising platform

(00:11:52) How AppLovin makes money from advertisers and publishers

(00:16:48) Why real-time auctions beat the old waterfall method

(00:30:24) What actually protects AppLovin from Google and Meta

(00:31:06) Why AppLovin bought mobile game studios, then sold them

(00:57:42) How buybacks created enormous value

(01:08:50) Details on the executive comp structure

(01:13:59) What we think triggered the post-earnings collapse

(01:19:14) Where the next leg of growth could come from

(01:28:39) Valuation discussion of AppLovin

(01:30:05) Intrinsic Value of AppLovin

(01:30:26) Whether Kyle & Shawn will add AppLovin to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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TIP843: AppLovin (APP): The 30-Bagger Down More Than Half w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

In today's episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley revisit Comfort Systems USA, a business Shawn originally passed on at $320 that has since appreciated fivefold due to explosive data center spending. The company shattered original projections, with accelerating organic growth, expanding margins, and exceptional capital efficiency. Despite acknowledging the business quality, the hosts discussed whether the original decision reflected a flawed investment process or was the natural outcome of applying a strict investment framework.

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(00:09:16) How AI data center spending transformed a boring contractor into a multi-bagger
(00:21:28) How to use the backlog to be directionally correct about the company’s future
(00:31:10) About the tailwinds behind their organic growth
(00:44:49) Why surety bonding capacity creates a widening competitive advantage
(00:57:32) About how the return on incremental invested capital has improved
(01:10:28) About their exceptional incentive plan
(01:13:18) Why are we uncertain about Comfort’s high growth metrics 5-10 years from now
(01:17:26) Valuation discussion of Comfort Systems
(01:20:35) Whether Kyle & Shawn will add Comfort Systems to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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TIP842: Comfort Systems USA (FIX): The Five-Bagger We Passed On w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O'Malley

Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a deep dive into Palantir (NASDAQ: PLTR), the data and AI platform behind everything from battlefield targeting systems to Airbus’s A350 production line, with customers including the U.S. Army, the NHS, Ferrari, and Airbus. Palantir is growing revenue at over 90%, with net dollar retention at 157% and adjusted operating margins above 60% — a Rule of 40 score of 155%, roughly double what the best software companies in the world achieve. It also trades at around 60 times sales, which is why The Economist called it possibly the most overvalued firm of all time.

Daniel and Shawn discuss whether the ontology layer is a sustainable moat now that Microsoft and Google have launched competing products, what Alex Karp and Peter Thiel’s politics mean for a company selling to Western governments, and why twenty years of losses turned into the fastest-accelerating software business on the market. In the end, Daniel values the business and decides whether PLTR deserves a spot in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio.

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(00:02:29) How Palantir’s Ontology actually works 
(00:16:26) How AI turned around Palantir’s business
(00:20:59) Why Palantir has the best margins in the industry
(00:34:22) Why no one seems to be able to copy Palantir’s Ontology
(00:38:01) How Palantir grows its customer base 
(01:07:36) Palantir's valuation discussion
(01:11:37) How much Palantir stock is actually worth
(01:12:52) Whether PLTR will be added to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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TIP841: Palantir – Palantir is Cheaper than I Thought! w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

In today’s episode, Stig Brodersen is joined by Manish Karira and Ralph Summerford for a bull and bear debate on CATL, the world’s largest battery maker. Manish presents the bull case, arguing that a company most listeners have never heard of is becoming the backbone of the global energy infrastructure, powering EVs, stabilizing power grids, and feeding AI data centers. Ralph, a forensic accountant, presents the bear case, digging into price deflation, geopolitical risk, and whether CATL’s US licensing model is capital-light growth or a defensive retreat.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:02:58) Why Manish is bullish on CATL, the world’s largest battery maker with 40% global market share and a founder-led culture of relentless R&D. 
(00:14:43) Why energy storage for AI data centers and the LRS licensing model in the US are two growth engines the market may not have fully priced in. 
(00:30:59) The bear case for CATL, including price deflation, a temporary margin windfall, the unwinding of its interest-free supplier float, and key-man risk. 
(00:58:28) How battery swapping and leasing could transform CATL from selling a battery once to owning the asset for its entire lifetime. 
(01:03:09) How to think about CATL’s valuation at 18 times operating profit, its 150+ strategic stakes including DeepSeek, and why the Hong Kong shares trade at a premium to the mainland listing.

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TIP840: CATL: Powering EVs, Power Grids, and AI w/ Stig Brodersen, Manish Karira & Ralph Summerford

In today's episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze Domino's Pizza, the world’s biggest pizza franchisor built on a royalty-driven, asset-light business model. They walk through Domino's shift toward franchising and away from Company-owned stores, and what that means for the company's future revenue mix and cash generation. Along the way, they dig into whether Domino's royalty engine can keep running at the pace investors have come to expect.

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(00:00:00) Intro
(00:02:55) Reviewing the Domino's royalty engine thesis
(00:15:26) Why Domino's has moved away from Company-owned stores
(00:29:19) The role of royalties versus supply chain revenue in Domino's earnings
(00:36:21) How Domino's utilizes a fortressing strategy and its effect on store growth
(00:44:18) The competitive landscape in delivery, carryout, and aggregator platforms
(00:46:29) How the franchise model keeps Domino's asset-light and cash-generative
(00:55:47) Domino's capital allocation and approach to share buybacks
(01:03:44) International franchising and Domino's global store growth
(01:05:25) Risks facing Domino's from labor costs, competition, and changing consumer habits
(01:13:19) Valuation discussion of Domino's
(01:14:31) Intrinsic value of Domino's
(01:15:52) Whether Kyle & Shawn will add Domino's to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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TIP839: Domino's Pizza (DPZ): Is the Royalty Engine Still Running? w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O’Malley

After looking at companies that tanked in recent months in the last episode, Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley now take a look at the best-performing stocks of the pitches of the last two years. Google, Amazon, and Reddit are companies that generated great returns for the Intrinsic Value Portfolio, but there were also companies on the watchlist that turned into multibaggers in the past year.

Daniel and Shawn discuss the patterns of the stocks that gained most in value, what one can learn from that, and how they think about selling and holding positions that went up past their fair value estimate.

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(00:03:51) About Google’s stock rise and valuation
(00:15:32) How the massive capex changes the Mag7
(00:29:08) Why Amazon might be more attractive than Google
(00:40:48) Why Daniel and Shawn decided to sell some Reddit
(01:03:07) Why Remitly wasn’t added to the Portfolio
(01:11:57) How TSMC, Dell, and Comfort Systems became multibaggers
(01:24:09) What the future holds for the AI trade

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TIP838: Google, Reddit, Amazon – Are Our Biggest Winners Still a Buy? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a trip down memory lane and look back at the pitches of the last year and a half – especially the ones that didn’t work out as hoped. Many companies that were seen as best-in-class businesses not too long ago experienced massive drawdowns in the last year. Some of them were covered on this show, and others even made it into the portfolio. 

Daniel and Shawn discuss the patterns of the stocks that lost most in value, what one can learn from that, and how the market shift towards AI changed how they invest. The companies discussed today are Adobe, Lululemon, PayPal, Trade Desk, and CoStar.

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(00:00:00) Intro
(00:04:33) Why Lululemon had to leave the portfolio
(00:20:11) What made us sell PayPal
(00:36:08) About Adobe’s downfall and future outlook
(00:58:40) Why Trade Desk never made it into the portfolio
(01:06:53) Whether Daniel’s and Shawn’s conviction in CoStar is broken
(01:16:37) What Daniel and Shawn learned from the companies above

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TIP837: Adobe, Lululemon, PayPal – Are our Biggest Losers a Buy Now? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley

In this episode, William Green speaks with Victor Haghani, founder & CIO of Elm Wealth & author of The Missing Billionaires: A Guide to Making Better Financial Decisions. Victor’s journey is among the most remarkable & instructive in modern investment history. As one of the founders of Long-Term Capital Management, he experienced dazzling success & devastating failure. Today, he oversees billions of dollars using a low-cost, diversified, index-driven strategy that reflects hard-won lessons about resilience, humility, simplicity & risk management.

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(00:00:00) Intro(00:04:17) How Victor Haghani’s tumultuous family history shaped him.(00:14:02) What he learned as a star trader on Salomon’s famed arbitrage desk.(00:22:56) How he honed his skills by playing high-stakes games of Liar’s Poker.(00:30:35) How Long-Term Capital Management hit the jackpot—for a while.(00:46:04) How Russia’s default in 1998 sparked a cascading disaster.(00:49:18) Why he defends the fund’s enormous appetite for leverage & risk.(00:52:20) What he views as the real lessons of the fund’s collapse.(00:58:21) How the concept of expected utility can improve our financial decisions.(01:11:09) Why he fell out of love with exotica like private equity & hedge funds.(01:13:22) What troubles him about the traditional, static approach to indexing.(01:18:52) Why he favors a “dynamic asset allocation” based on risks & rewards.(01:27:21) How his firm’s current allocations reflect a wary view of US equities.(01:40:45) What he’s learned about overcoming adversity & finding happiness.

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 Michael Lewis’ book, “Liar’s Poker.”

 Roger Lowenstein’s book, “When Genius Failed.”

 Daniel Gilbert’s book, “Stumbling on Happiness.”

 Viktor Frankl’s book, “Man’s Search for Meaning.”

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RWH071: Risk, Ruin, Reinvention & Resilience w/ Victor Haghani

In today’s episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley analyze Exor, the Dutch holding company controlled by Italy’s Agnelli family and best known for its long-standing stake in Ferrari. They walk through Exor’s ownership of Ferrari, and what they like about Lingotto, Exor’s investing management company. Along the way, they dig into what could cause the current valuation gap to close or widen.

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(00:00:00) Intro
(00:03:08) Revisiting the Exor and Ferrari thesis
(00:05:06) How Exor’s stock reacted since the original purchase
(00:09:16) Why Ferrari’s stock has fallen despite strong operating results
(00:16:07) The market’s reaction to Ferrari’s new Luce model
(00:22:26) How Ferrari’s other new releases are doing
(00:45:04) Ferrari’s capital allocation, working capital, and margin trends
(00:54:05) How Ferrari’s racing program supports its brand and marketing
(00:57:18) Risks facing Ferrari from changing driving habits and tariffs
(01:13:22) Expanding on Lingotto, Exor’s growing asset management business
(01:17:44) Evaluating Lingotto’s performance, fees, and top holdings

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TIP836: Exor NV (EXO): The Massive Discount Continues To Widen w/ Kyle Grieve & Shawn O’Malley

Hosted by Stig Brodersen, William Green, Shawn O'Malley, Daniel Mahncke, and Kyle Grieve, The Investor’s Podcast has proudly reached nearly 200 million downloads, as the world's largest stock-investing-focused podcast.

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