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True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.

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True Crime Bullsh**

As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.

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S7 Prep: Celia Darlene Barnes - part 2

S7 Prep: Celia Darlene Barnes - part 1

On September 13, join Josh, the TCB research team, and Javier Leiva (PRETEND & Criminal Conduct) for the Summer Studio Sessions at Studio BOTH/AND! We'll do two live shows, a studio tour, cocktails, an interactive research roundtable, and celebrate Josh's birthday.

https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/summer-studio-sessions

Today, August 8, is your last chance to join us in Bali!
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Announcement: Studio Sessions, Javier Leiva, and Bali!

Part 1:
A few weeks ago, the team received about 500 new documents in the Keyes case. Josh is here to chat about them, where they're taking us, and what season 7 is starting to look like.

Part 2:
Hi, this is Josh. And until today, I knew essentially nothing about Karen Read, her trials, the evidence, the news. After hearing a few interesting tidbits over the weekend, I decided to peek in and see what everyone's been talking about. So, today, I watched all five parts of the (stupidly named) HBO docuseries A Body in the Snow: The Karen Read Trial. And I recorded my thoughts just for you, between each episode.

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Keyes Document Dump & Karen Read (Patreon Bonus)

Josh gives listeners a sneak peek at season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**. 
Then we cover a NAMUS-45 case that has increasingly interested the team. A young girl disappears on a short walk to her house. In the following years, questions are raised about her home life, and a kidnapper is apprehended nearby.

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Written and researched by Shana Wilensky. 
Edited and produced by Josh Hallmark.

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Season 7 Preview / The NAMUS-45: Bianca Noel Piper

Last week, Tim, Lance, Greg, and Lou announced a new lead in the Brianna Maitland case. So, Josh sat down to get the new information, discuss its potential implications, and see how it's moving the investigation into Brianna's disappearance forward.

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A New Lead in the Brianna Maitland Case (with Crawlspace Media)

This past April, Josh sat down with Eva Pilgrim, the co-anchor of GMA3 and ABC’s senior national correspondent, to discuss her new investigative podcast What Happened to Holly Bobo. Listeners may recall that Holly Bobo’s name and image were found on Israel Keyes’s computer, as one of the NAMUS-45. So, Eva and Josh discussed the case, her investigation, Keyes, what the public got wrong, and the local impacts of this story.

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The Holly Bobo Disappearance: An Interview with Eva Pilgrim

As we prepare for season 7 of our investigation into Israel Keyes, we look back at some of the potential victims we've covered throughout the series and provide case updates and classification updates.

This episode covers the following cases:
• Kellisue Ackernecht 
• Jack Coloney 
• Suzy Lyall 
• John Hannemann 
• Marble Arvidson 
• Nancy Reagey 
• Maura Murray 
• Brianna Maitland 
• Karen Adams 
• Bryan Gomez 
• Donnie Messier 
• Richard Petrone 
• Danielle Imbo 

Written, Researched, Edited, and Produced by Josh Hallmark. 

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Music by: 
Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, and Radical Face 

Sources include: 
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/police-search-new-lead-kellisue-ackernecht-s-2008-20019747.php

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Potential Keyes Victims: The Northeast

When a young girl goes missing under mysterious circumstances, a man claiming to be her father quickly becomes the prime suspect in her disappearance. Lies, theft, strange behavior, and murky relationships coalesce with a suicide in a National Park and more questions than answers. A look into why this case ended up on Israel Keyes's computer highlights a suspicious trip, a weird time in his life, and a missing person's case Josh just can't shake. 

Written and Researched by Shana Wilensky and Josh Hallmark.
Edited and Produced by Josh Hallmark. 

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Sources include: 
For The Love of ReachelleReachelle Marie Smith – The Charley ProjectEpisode 081: Reachelle Marie Smith – Bite-Sized CrimeHunting at Upper Souris National Wildlife Refuge | FWS.govReachelle Smith - Amber Alert is issued - Newspapers.com™Alert: Cowen may be headed to Kansas - Newspapers.com™Girl still missing; man dead - Newspapers.com™Missing: Volunteers continue search - Newspapers.com™Search covers refuge - Newspapers.com™Case haunts retiring police chief - Newspapers.com™Officers volunteering their off-duty time to search - Newspapers.com™Riders comb ditches in search - Newspapers.com™Family still hopes child can be found - Newspapers.com™Dog handler continuing search for Reachelle Smith - Newspapers.com™Year later, mother still has hope for daughter - Newspapers.com™Police close cold case - Newspapers.com™Minot police: “Compelling evidence” points to murder of Minot 3-year-old in 2006 | KX NEWSCNN.com - Transcripts

 • Music by: 

 • Alex Preston, 9 Moons, Lightless Voids, The Construct of Time

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The NAMUS-45: Reachelle Smith

In April, Josh traveled to Texas and Louisiana for research. Each leg of that trip was thoroughly documented and will become individual Travelogue video episodes, running monthly on Patreon. Enjoy the audio from his day in the Dallas area, traveling to Godley, Glen Rose, Stephenville, Aledo, and Azle. 

Future Episodes:
June: Lufkin
July: New Orleans
August: Washington state

To see the images, video, files, maps, and more, join Patreon at the Chipmunk level.

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Research Roadtrip: Dallas

The Currier files take us to Wisconsin and the greater Midwest, where two new cases have strong circumstantial evidence, a tip potentially places Keyes in the right place at the right time, and new information leads us back to Indiana. 

This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Andrew French, and Michelle Tooker.
Research assistance by Ben Lamb and Kaz

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
www.truecrimebullshit.com / www.bothand.fyi
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Patreon producers: Alexa Horn, Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annette, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Dr. Jill Cooper, Drew Vipond, Hallie Reed, Jillian Natale, John O'Leary, Kendall C, Kimberly K, Lauren F, Lindsay Kurtis, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Meggan Capps-Seawel, Mike Sherman, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Sara C, SC, Shannon Foster, Shelly Brewer, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, and Lydia Fiedler. 

Resources: 
• NAMUS 
• The Charley Project 
• Google Trends 
• The Polk County Sheriff’s Department: https://www.facebook.com/PolkSO/videos/435511950380015/ 
• Wisconsin Missing Persons Advocacy, Inc: https://www.wimissing.org/post/rose-marie-bly-10-years-and-a-new-approach-from-police 

Music by:
William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, Yotam Agam, and Jordan Hatfield. 
Featured song by Torres.

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