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Studio BOTH/AND

True Crime Bullsh** is a serialized, investigative podcast that aims to identify the missing victims of serial killer Israel Keyes. Host Josh Hallmark has spent close to a decade combing through FBI files, analyzing interrogation videos, and working with experts in the field in this comprehensive and ground-breaking podcast.

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True Crime Bullsh**

Josh continues his look into the strange disappearance of Roger Jung. The team analyzes tips, reviews the Keyes timeline, data mines, and gets some help from the Everett Police Department.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, Jordan Taylor, and Kim K. 
Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. 
 
This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: 
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Trova Trip to Chile & Argentina

Music by: William Hellfire, HIVE, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov. 
Featured song by: Sunriver

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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0618 | Summits, part 2

The season six finale is over a decade in the making; Josh sits down with FBI Special Agent Ted Halla to discuss the Keyes investigation, share new information and ideas, rule out potential victims, and develop our clearest look yet at the details surrounding 5 of Keyes's victims. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Featuring: FBI SA Ted Halla. 
Sound editing by: Darron Wood of the Defense Diaries podcast. 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: 
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For an ad-free experience: www.patreon.com/studiobothand 

Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, and Sero. 
Featured song: The Museum by Half Waif 

Patreon producers: Amelia Hancock, Amy Basil, Annemarie Cash, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen-Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Dale Akstin, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton-Whedon, Jen Jacobi, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Kendall C, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lynnlie Tuschoff, Manolis Boukolus, Nicole and Dennis Henry, Nicole Guzman, Pink, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Beth McNally, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Michael Beers, Sara Cee, Shawna Hardin, Spooky Express, and Lydia Fiedler.

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0619 | The Future Is a Hopeful Past

In the second season premiere, Josh digs into two years of research into the lives and crimes of Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, in hopes of identifying other victims. A list of 25 missing and murdered men, across multiple jursidctions, launches a deep-dive investigation that examines the lives of these 25 men, Lorenzo & Schweickert, other area serial killers, intersectionality, homophobia, politics, and more. 

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Featuring: 
Albert Perkins 

Resources: 
 • NAMUS.gov 
CharleyProject.org • The Tampa Bay Times 
 • The Tampa Tribune 
This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
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Music by: Tamuz Dekel, Grissly Bill, and Yehezkel Raz 
Featured music by: TV on the Radio 

Patreon Producers: Amy Basil, Dale Akstin, Kendall C, Amelia Hancock, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton Whedon, Jen J, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Manolis Bouloukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Pink, Robin Wolfe, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesday Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Bethany Heintz, Carrie, Emily Paine, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Kathy Nation, Megan Inman, Rene LaPlante, Sabrina Abbot, Spooky, Tori Myers 

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Unsafe Spaces Season 2 Premiere: 25 MEN

In April, Josh traveled to Texas and Louisiana for research. Each leg of that trip was thoroughly documented and will become individual Travelogue video episodes, running monthly on Patreon. Enjoy the audio from his day in the Dallas area, traveling to Godley, Glen Rose, Stephenville, Aledo, and Azle. 

Future Episodes:
June: Lufkin
July: New Orleans
August: Washington state

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Research Roadtrip: Dallas

When a young girl goes missing under mysterious circumstances, a man claiming to be her father quickly becomes the prime suspect in her disappearance. Lies, theft, strange behavior, and murky relationships coalesce with a suicide in a National Park and more questions than answers. A look into why this case ended up on Israel Keyes's computer highlights a suspicious trip, a weird time in his life, and a missing person's case Josh just can't shake. 

Written and Researched by Shana Wilensky and Josh Hallmark.
Edited and Produced by Josh Hallmark. 

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Sources include: 
For The Love of ReachelleReachelle Marie Smith – The Charley ProjectEpisode 081: Reachelle Marie Smith – Bite-Sized CrimeHunting at Upper Souris National Wildlife Refuge | FWS.govReachelle Smith - Amber Alert is issued - Newspapers.com™Alert: Cowen may be headed to Kansas - Newspapers.com™Girl still missing; man dead - Newspapers.com™Missing: Volunteers continue search - Newspapers.com™Search covers refuge - Newspapers.com™Case haunts retiring police chief - Newspapers.com™Officers volunteering their off-duty time to search - Newspapers.com™Riders comb ditches in search - Newspapers.com™Family still hopes child can be found - Newspapers.com™Dog handler continuing search for Reachelle Smith - Newspapers.com™Year later, mother still has hope for daughter - Newspapers.com™Police close cold case - Newspapers.com™Minot police: “Compelling evidence” points to murder of Minot 3-year-old in 2006 | KX NEWSCNN.com - Transcripts

 • Music by: 

 • Alex Preston, 9 Moons, Lightless Voids, The Construct of Time

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The NAMUS-45: Reachelle Smith

As we prepare for season 7 of our investigation into Israel Keyes, we look back at some of the potential victims we've covered throughout the series and provide case updates and classification updates.

This episode covers the following cases:
• Kellisue Ackernecht 
• Jack Coloney 
• Suzy Lyall 
• John Hannemann 
• Marble Arvidson 
• Nancy Reagey 
• Maura Murray 
• Brianna Maitland 
• Karen Adams 
• Bryan Gomez 
• Donnie Messier 
• Richard Petrone 
• Danielle Imbo 

Written, Researched, Edited, and Produced by Josh Hallmark. 

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Music by: 
Sergey Cheremisinov, Sero, and Radical Face 

Sources include: 
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/police-search-new-lead-kellisue-ackernecht-s-2008-20019747.php

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Potential Keyes Victims: The Northeast

This past April, Josh sat down with Eva Pilgrim, the co-anchor of GMA3 and ABC’s senior national correspondent, to discuss her new investigative podcast What Happened to Holly Bobo. Listeners may recall that Holly Bobo’s name and image were found on Israel Keyes’s computer, as one of the NAMUS-45. So, Eva and Josh discussed the case, her investigation, Keyes, what the public got wrong, and the local impacts of this story.

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The Holly Bobo Disappearance: An Interview with Eva Pilgrim

Last week, Tim, Lance, Greg, and Lou announced a new lead in the Brianna Maitland case. So, Josh sat down to get the new information, discuss its potential implications, and see how it's moving the investigation into Brianna's disappearance forward.

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A New Lead in the Brianna Maitland Case (with Crawlspace Media)

Josh gives listeners a sneak peek at season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**. 
Then we cover a NAMUS-45 case that has increasingly interested the team. A young girl disappears on a short walk to her house. In the following years, questions are raised about her home life, and a kidnapper is apprehended nearby.

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Written and researched by Shana Wilensky. 
Edited and produced by Josh Hallmark.

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Season 7 Preview / The NAMUS-45: Bianca Noel Piper

Part 1:
A few weeks ago, the team received about 500 new documents in the Keyes case. Josh is here to chat about them, where they're taking us, and what season 7 is starting to look like.

Part 2:
Hi, this is Josh. And until today, I knew essentially nothing about Karen Read, her trials, the evidence, the news. After hearing a few interesting tidbits over the weekend, I decided to peek in and see what everyone's been talking about. So, today, I watched all five parts of the (stupidly named) HBO docuseries A Body in the Snow: The Karen Read Trial. And I recorded my thoughts just for you, between each episode.

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Keyes Document Dump & Karen Read (Patreon Bonus)

An eerie encounter with Keyes catapults us into a close look at Keyes's activity in Pennsylvania, some emerging patterns with the NAMUS-44, a possible kill kit, and our first look at a missing persons case that has come up each season, but hasn't gotten a proper deep-dive yet.

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This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark. Additional research by Shana Wilensky; and research assistance by Andrew French and Michelle Kaszuba. 

Research sources include: 
• The Charley Project 
• NAMUS 
• The Ellwood City Ledger 
• The Intelligencer - Wheeling News-Register 

This episode featured Dr. Chris Kunkle and the Hawk Mountain Witness (Lisa) 

This episode included music by: 
• William Hellfire 
• Radical Face 
• Whithe 
• Sergey Cheremisinov 
• Kai Engel 
Featured song: "Pushin' Against a Stone" by Valerie June

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0402 | Hawk Mountain

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