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Join Jason Tartick as he breaks into the vault of secrets behind all things Money and careers. Jason explores the taboo curiosities and money questions we have been told never to discuss! He dives into all the trading secrets that we want to know and need to know to properly navigate the financial world as consumers, employees and investors. Out with the mantra of "wishing you knew then, what you know now"! Listen carefully as you will uncover trading secrets from Jason and his expert guests who dive into a specific subject every episode surrounding anything and everything, money. The power of “the inside scoop” will now be realized and you can use these trading secrets to earn more, spend less, and invest wisely.

Trading Secrets

Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for another 30 Minute Thursday with a little bit of everything. Jason breaks down the latest Federal Reserve rate hike and what it means for your credit card debt, savings, and investments, while David asks how to put $10,000 to work, whether a high-yield savings account or CD makes sense, and how dollar-cost averaging can help you get invested over time.

The guys also debate whether David should set up an LLC for his hockey consulting side hustle, what business expenses may qualify as deductions, and why keeping receipts and working with a tax professional matters.

Then it’s all pop culture. Jason recaps a whirlwind week in New York City, including the US Open, celebrity events, and his upcoming night with Brad Pitt, while the guys break down the return of Chris Harrison to reality TV, the new show The Vow, and their thoughts on the latest season of Dancing With the Stars.

Plus, a Starbucks rant, the rise of AI and robots, Jason’s week in NYC, and the real reason the Jesse James Decker episode was pulled and replaced with the Val episode.

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332. Thirty Minute Thursday: Starbucks, Side Hustles, Dancing With the Stars & Chris Harrison’s Big Comeback

Description:With a new season of Dancing With the Stars just around the corner, we’re flashing back and revisiting one of our favorite conversations with DWTS legend Val Chmerkovskiy.

Originally recorded in 2023, Val opens up about his unconventional path from competitive ballroom dancing to becoming one of the biggest names on television, including why he initially resisted joining Dancing With the Stars, what finally changed his mind, and how his career evolved once he made the leap.

Val also gets candid about the business of being a professional dancer, the financial realities of competitive dance, negotiating his value, building multiple streams of income, and why he would sometimes choose equity in a business over getting paid upfront.

Plus, he shares the mindset that helped him navigate difficult seasons, career setbacks and the uncertainty of being dealt a bad hand: “delusional optimism.”

From building Dance With Me Studios to turning his DWTS platform into a larger business ecosystem, this is a conversation about knowing your value, betting on yourself, and turning a passion into a career.
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331. DWTS Flashback: Val Chmerkovskiy on the Business of Dancing, Betting on Yourself & Making It to Dancing With the Stars

Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for another 30-Minute Thursday covering everything from Jared Freid’s relentless approach to success to Apple’s brand-new $2,000 foldable iPhone.

The guys break down the biggest business takeaways from Jared’s return to Trading Secrets, including why asking for what you want, being scrappy, and putting yourself out there can create opportunities. They also debate whether the new iPhone is actually worth the price, talk podcast negotiations, the rise of athletes in pop culture, the US Open, football season, and the latest sports headlines.

Then, for the first time ever, a Trading Secrets listener joins the show. Taylor Fraser shares her journey from accounting to teaching, how she turned her side hustles into a growing business, and how she and her husband launched Bluegrass Flow, a cold-pressed juice company now sold in 60+ retail locations.

Taylor also opens up about teacher compensation, retirement, AI in education, entrepreneurship, using grants to fund a growing business, and the importance of building a career around something you genuinely love.
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330. Thirty Minute Thursday: The $2,000 iPhone, Jared Freid’s Secret to Success & our first Listener calling in!

This week, Jason is joined by stand-up comedian, podcaster, and now first-time author Jared Freid for a conversation about the business behind comedy, betting on yourself, and how money, confidence, and relationships are more connected than we think.

Three years after his first appearance on Trading Secrets, Jared returns with his second Netflix special, The Family Plan, and breaks down exactly what it took to get there. After spending roughly $80,000 producing his first special, Jared reveals why he invested around $100,000 of his own money into the second, how the licensing economics work, why he partnered with Betches for marketing power, and why that partnership means splitting the licensing fee 50/50. He also shares why landing in Netflix’s Top 10 in the U.S. and Canada for nearly a week still wasn’t enough to guarantee Netflix would finance his next special.

Jared also opens up about the economics of his growing comedy career, revealing that touring and the U Up? podcast are currently his two biggest financial drivers. He breaks down the ownership structures behind U Up? and JTrain, why subscriptions have become increasingly important to podcasting, and why paid social partnerships remain more of a bonus than a core piece of his business.

Beyond comedy, Jared gets candid about writing his first book, Walking Red Flag, including spending two years on the project, realizing after his first page that he needed a ghostwriter, and paying that expense out of his book advance. He also shares how stepping away from alcohol, his experience with GLP-1s, and rebuilding his relationship with his girlfriend changed his confidence and outlook on life.

From investing six figures into your own career to prenups, joint finances, ghosting, dating economics, protecting what you’ve built, and why Jared says he’s never regretted taking a risk—this episode breaks down what it really looks like to build a career without waiting for someone else to give you your big break.

Host: Jason Tartick
Audio: John Gurney
Video: Marc Colcer
Guest: Jared Freid

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329. Jared Freid: The $100K Gamble Behind His Netflix Special, The Business of Comedy & Dating Economics

Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian, David, are back together for another chaotic 30-Minute Thursday—and they have a lot to unpack.

From Jason’s trip to the U.S. Open and the eye-popping $108 million prize pool, to the $23 Honey Deuce and the bizarre world of Burning Man, the guys cover it all. They also dive deep into AI, the fear of giving bots access to our personal lives, the future of work and parenting, and how social media algorithms are increasingly shaping—and sometimes hijacking—our brains.

Plus, they break down the latest Dancing with the Stars cast, debate whether Jason and David could survive Burning Man, talk about finally getting into Harry Potter, and reveal what they’re trying to do to take back control of their algorithms.
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328. Thirty Minute Thursday — Burning Man, AI Takeover & The Wildest Algorithm Spiral Yet

Mary Holland Nader has lived two very different lives—and somehow built both at the same time.

On this episode of Trading Secrets, Jason Tartick sits down with Mary, one of the Nader sisters from Hulu’s Love Thy Neighbor, to unpack her unconventional journey from Wall Street to reality TV, modeling, content creation, and entrepreneurship.

Mary shares what it was really like starting at Deutsche Bank fresh out of college with a $100K salary, working her way into wealth management, and secretly juggling her finance career with modeling and brand deals. She reveals the moment a $5,000 modeling job made her calculate her hourly rate—and realize her side hustle could eventually out-earn her Wall Street salary.

The conversation goes deeper into Mary's decision to leave the security of a steady paycheck, healthcare, and corporate career to pursue entertainment and build her fintech startup, Mary & Pip. She opens up about the financial realities of becoming an entrepreneur, managing unpredictable income, negotiating alongside her sisters, and the freedom that came with finally controlling her own schedule.

Jason and Mary also dive into the rapidly changing world of AI—from how she uses Claude, AI agents, and automation in her everyday life to why she believes emotional intelligence and relationships may become more valuable as technology reshapes the workforce. Mary also shares her perspective on protecting your financial information online and why you should think twice before giving sensitive data to an AI tool.

Plus, Mary breaks down what it's like watching the Nader sisters' rise happen almost overnight, how Love Thy Neighbor changed her career, what goes on behind the scenes with executive producers, and where she wants to take her career next.

From Wall Street to reality TV to fintech, this is a conversation about taking risks, following curiosity, and knowing when it's time to bet on yourself.
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327. Mary Holland Nader on Leaving Wall Street, Reality TV & Building Her Own Financial Future

David the Curious Canadian may have overdone it on the beers and hot dogs, leaving Jason Tartick with no choice but to host this week’s Trading Secrets 30-Minute Thursday solo. Jason takes over the mic, covers the biggest pop-culture stories of the week, and shares what’s coming next for him.
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327. Thirty Minute Thursday: Just Jason

This week, Jason is joined by Banfield Pet Hospital Chief Medical Officer Dr. Alea Harrison for a conversation about the real economics of pet ownership, why preventive care can be one of the smartest financial decisions pet owners make, and how planning ahead can help avoid thousands of dollars in unexpected veterinary expenses. Dr. Harrison shares her journey from leaving the country to attend veterinary school in St. Kitts to becoming a practicing veterinarian and eventually helping guide clinical strategy for roughly 3,600 veterinarians across more than 1,000 Banfield hospitals nationwide.

Dr. Harrison breaks down what people should actually budget for when bringing home a pet, including veterinary care, nutrition, grooming, training, boarding, and daycare—and why many of the biggest expenses are the ones owners rarely think about beforehand. She explains why choosing the right food should be based on a pet’s individual health, breed, and lifestyle rather than marketing or social media trends, and reveals why taking a proactive approach to veterinary care can dramatically change both a pet’s long-term health and the owner’s finances.

Jason and Dr. Harrison also dive into Banfield’s Optimum Wellness Plans, why they were designed to make preventive veterinary care more accessible and predictable, and how they differ from traditional pet insurance. Dr. Harrison explains how bundling preventive services can save clients more than 30% compared to paying for each service individually, while plans can include comprehensive exams, vaccinations, diagnostic testing, unlimited office visits, and 24/7 Pet Chat access. She also explains why pet insurance and wellness plans can work together, with insurance focused on unexpected illnesses, injuries, and surgeries while wellness plans focus on routine preventive care.

Plus, Dr. Harrison reveals some of the numbers that show just how expensive waiting can become. Heartworm prevention can cost around $25 per month, while treating heartworm disease can range from roughly $1,200 to $6,000 depending on the pet. She also shares that Banfield data shows 80% of dogs and 75% of cats have signs of dental disease by just one year old, explains how certain breeds can be predisposed to costly health problems, and breaks down why spaying and neutering can help prevent serious conditions and certain cancers in addition to controlling the pet population.

Dr. Harrison also gets candid about the challenges of becoming a veterinarian, from the competitiveness and financial burden of veterinary school to building a career that can extend far beyond treating individual patients. She explains how her own definition of impact evolved from caring for pets one-on-one to influencing thousands of veterinarians and ultimately helping improve care on a much larger scale.

Dr. Harrison reveals why creating predictability, staying proactive instead of reactive, and preparing for expenses before they become emergencies can make all the difference for pet owners. She also leaves Jason with her ultimate trading secret, a mantra she applies to business, family, and veterinary medicine: “If you stay ready, you don’t have to get ready.”

She reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!

Host: Jason Tartick

Audio: John Gurney

Video: Marc Colcer

Guest: Dr. Alea Harrison
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326. Banfield’s Dr. Alea Harrison: Why Preventive Pet Care Could Save You Thousands & The Costs Owners Overlook

Jason Tartick and the Curious Canadian are back for a 30-minute Thursday episode! The guys recap their conversation with Stephanie Shojaee, dive into why Jason is genuinely terrified of going to the doctor, and unpack everything happening across pop culture right now. From the biggest takeaways from Stephanie’s episode to Jason’s latest fears and the stories everyone is talking about, this is your Thursday dose of Trading Secrets.
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325. Thirty Minute Thursday: Stephanie Shojaee Recap, Doctor Fears & Pop Culture

This week, Jason is joined by The Real Housewives of Miami standout and Shoma Group president Stephanie Shojaee for a conversation about building massive wealth, growing a multi-billion-dollar real estate business, and why relentless ambition has been at the center of everything she has accomplished. The first-generation Colombian American opens up about growing up determined to become “filthy rich,” eventually helping lead a development company that has completed more than $6 billion in real estate transactions—and using reality TV as a platform to expand the Shoma brand globally.

Stephanie breaks down how her approach to money changed after meeting her husband, Masoud, from focusing solely on earning and saving to investing, using debt strategically, and continuously putting capital back to work. She shares how her modern approach to branding and marketing helped increase Shoma’s business by roughly 30%, while expanding its recognition beyond South Florida and into markets including Dubai. She also reveals the unforgettable $240,000 payday she earned after refusing to give up on a deal that fell apart three separate times.

Jason and Stephanie also dive into her unconventional leadership style, including building Shoma’s nine-person, all-women Latina marketing team largely with young hires straight out of school. Stephanie explains why she believes in discipline, tough love, and throwing employees “in the pool” to see whether they sink or swim—and why she has no problem moving on quickly when someone isn’t the right fit.

Plus, Stephanie gets candid about life on The Real Housewives of Miami, why she originally turned the show down for years, and why representing an ambitious, successful Latina businesswoman ultimately helped change her mind. She also shares the wild story of having more than $200,000 worth of belongings stolen from her villa in Cannes, her thoughts on prenups and combining love and money, and the luxury purchase that recently made her say, “Damn, that was expensive”—an Hermès bracelet costing upwards of $250,000.

Stephanie reveals why putting on the blinders, eliminating distractions, investing rather than simply earning, and staying relentlessly focused on your goals have been key to her success. She also leaves Jason with a different kind of trading secret: after 15 years with her husband, never go to bed angry and never allow disrespect to become normalized in a relationship.

She reveals all this and so much more in another episode you can’t afford to miss!

Host: Jason Tartick

Audio: John Gurney

Video: Marc Colcer

Guest: Stephanie Shojaee
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324. Stephanie Shojaee: Inside Her $6B+ Real Estate Empire, $240K Payday & “Filthy Rich” Goals

On this episode of Trading Secrets, Jason Tartick sits down with one of social media’s most emotionally honest couples — Michael Allio and Jade Marie Chapman.
Michael opens up about his deeply personal new book, Where the Wild Heart Grows, inspired by conversations with his son James about grief, healing, and life’s hardest transitions after losing his wife Laura. Together, Michael and Jade share how friendship became love, why they left the Hollywood lifestyle behind for a quieter life in Akron, and what it’s really like building a blended family rooted in honesty, growth, and emotional intelligence.
The conversation also dives into business and entrepreneurship as Jade shares the journey behind building her skincare company from scratch, while Michael gives an update on St. James Therapeutics and the groundbreaking clinical trial results that could help cancer patients manage painful chemotherapy side effects.
Plus, the couple talks Bachelor Nation, public relationships, money habits, investing, future marriage plans, and the biggest “trading secrets” they’ve learned about life, love, and betting on yourself.
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302. Michael Allio & Jade Chapman on Love After Loss, Building Businesses & Betting on Yourself

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