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Lewis Howes

Lewis Howes is a New York Times best-selling author, 2x All-American athlete, keynote speaker, and entrepreneur. The School of Greatness shares inspiring interviews from the most successful people on the planet—world-renowned leaders in business, entertainment, sports, science, health, mental health and literature—to inspire YOU to unlock your inner greatness and live your best life.

The School of Greatness

The #1 illness of our time has nothing to do with your body.

Dr. Lisa Miller, Columbia University researcher and author of The Spiritual Child, has spent over a decade scanning human brains to understand how we're built for God's presence. What those MRIs reveal is both startling and deeply hopeful.

You were not built for scarcity or isolation. Three specific circuits in every human brain light up when you connect to something greater than yourself, a bonding network, an attention network, and a parietal network, each wired to receive love, guidance, and the awareness that you are never alone. The awakened brain is one-third innate, two-thirds cultivated. Which means you can build it.

The research on teens will stop you cold. A strong shared spiritual life is 82% protective against completed suicide, which has now surpassed auto accidents as the leading cause of teen death. 80% protective against the onset of addiction. This is not philosophy. These are numbers from global studies of 270,000 children.

The path to your best life might not require more effort. It might require a different kind of listening.

The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and Our Quest for an Inspired Life

 Amazon
 Ebook
 Audiobook

The Spiritual Child: The New Science on Parenting for Health and Lifelong Thriving

 Amazon
 Ebook
 Audiobook

Dr. Lisa's Instagram

Dr. Lisa's Website

In this episode you will:

 • Learn why the #1 illness of our time is an ailment of perception, not biology, and what that means for how you live

 • Discover the three brain circuits that hardwire every human being for spiritual connection and how to activate them starting today

 • Recognize the difference between achieving relationships and awakened relationships, and why that shift changes every room you walk into

 • Explore the 4 P's framework developed with the Pentagon for raising spiritually grounded children and adults

 • Understand why a shared spiritual life is the single most protective factor against teen depression, addiction, and suicide, and what every parent can do right now

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Your Brain Is Built for God, Not Scarcity | Dr. Lisa Miller

The real mistake isn't spending too much. It's dying with money you never used.

Bill Perkins built a career generating over $2.2 billion in trading profits as a hedge fund manager. His book Die With Zero reframes what money is actually for.

Money is a tool, not a goal. Every dollar you hold at death represents life energy you spent earning it and never converted into something real. The question isn't how much you save. It's whether you're using your wealth, your health, and your time together, in the right order, to get the most out of your one shot.

That's where memory dividends come in. When you invest in an experience, you don't just get the moment. You get a return every time you recall it, tell the story, or relive it in conversation. The joy compounds long after the trip ends.

But timing matters more than most people realize. Your ability to convert money into meaningful experience decays as you age. The adventures your body wants now won't be available at 72. Life is like Tetris. Get the pieces in the right order, and you get everything. Delay too long, and the window quietly closes.

Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life

 Amazon
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Bill on X

Bill on Instagram

In this episode you will:

 • Understand the Die With Zero philosophy and why every dollar you die holding is proof you worked for no reward

 • Discover the memory dividend concept and why investing in experiences now pays compounding joy long after the moment passes

 • Learn the time bucket framework for getting your biggest experiences in the right order before your body, not your bank account, makes the decision for you

 • Identify the biggest psychological crime around money: fearing you'll run out instead of fearing you'll waste your one life

 • Build the belief, mindset, and consistency that Bill Perkins says are the three keys to earning more and actually feeling fulfilled by what you have

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Why Your Retirement Plan Is Wasting Your Life | Bill Perkins

You can earn half a million dollars a year and still have nothing left by the end of the month.

That's not a theory. A Goldman Sachs study found 40% of people making over $500,000 are living paycheck to paycheck. The income isn't the problem. The identity is.

George Kamel, #1 national bestselling author of Breaking Free from Broke and co-host of The Ramsey Show, has taken thousands of calls from people who earned great money and lost it all. People who confused looking rich with building wealth. Couples who kept separate bank accounts right up until the marriage fell apart.

His take: debt is never just a math problem. It's a behavior problem. And no budget in the world sticks until you decide what kind of person you're going to be with money.

In this conversation, George breaks down why buy now pay later apps are engineered to increase your cart size by 40%, why prediction markets like Polymarket are doing to young men what gambling apps did to the last generation, and why the moment someone calls a financial decision an "opportunity," they've usually already started justifying a terrible one.

The path to financial peace is simpler than you've been told. And it starts with creating friction, not removing it.

Breaking Free From Broke: The Ultimate Guide to More Money and Less Stress

 Amazon
 Ebook
 Audiobook

Smart Money Happy Hour

George Kamel YouTube

George's Instagram

In this episode you will:

 • Discover why debt is a psychology problem, not a math problem, and the identity shift you must make before any budget will actually stick

 • Recognize the doom loop of emotional spending and how buy now pay later apps are designed to make you spend more, feel worse, and repeat the cycle

 • Learn the seven Ramsey Baby Steps framework that has helped millions get out of debt and build real generational wealth

 • Apply the SMART Spender framework from Breaking Free from Broke to make intentional purchases without guilt or impulse

 • Understand how financial infidelity quietly destroys marriages and the warning signs hiding in plain sight

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The Psychology Behind Why You're Still Broke | George Kamel

Your brain is making choices for you before you even realize it.

Neuroscientist Emily McDonald, known as Emonthebrain, studies how your identity, nervous system, and subconscious programming quietly run the show. Most people think they're choosing. Research shows the neural pattern of a decision lights up in a brain scan before you're consciously aware you've made it.

That's the gap Emily spent years learning to close. She grew up with clinical depression, ADHD, anxiety, and a victim mindset baked in by illness and circumstance. She wasn't looking for a life philosophy. She switched her major to neuroscience because it sounded cool and got a 100 on her first exam. What she found changed everything.

The science she uncovered is this: your brain holds a model of who you are in the default mode network. It uses that model to predict your thoughts, behaviors, and choices on autopilot. If the model says you're someone who struggles with money, or fails at relationships, or can't focus, your nervous system quietly steers you toward confirming that story. The identity is the destiny.

Shifting it means more than positive thinking. It means identity anchors, environment, the people around you, the habits encoded in your body. Emily calls it identity shifting, and she coaches people through it by asking a deceptively simple question: do you have a to-do list or a to-be list? Most people have never sat down to ask who they're becoming, only what they're accomplishing.

This conversation will rewire the way you think about why you keep falling back into old patterns, how affirmations can actually work against you, and what neuroscience actually says about the law of attraction.

Emily's Website

Emily's Instagram

Mindcraft Coaching Program

In this episode you will:

 • Understand how the default mode network stores your identity and drives your choices below conscious awareness

 • Learn the identity shifting process Emily uses with coaching clients to break subconscious patterns holding them back

 • Discover why affirmations backfire and how to use forward motion and dopamine to make them actually work

 • Explore the neuroscience behind the law of attraction and why you attract what your nervous system is wired for, not what you want

 • Understand how ADHD medication, dopamine dependency, and addiction cycles form in the brain and what it takes to rewire them

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The Neuroscience of Identity: Why You Keep Repeating the Same Patterns | Emily McDonald

Not everyone is going to like you. And that is okay.

Emmanuel Acho built one of the most meteoric rises in media in recent memory. Former NFL linebacker. Fox Sports host of Speak for Yourself. Author of multiple New York Times bestselling books, including Illogical: Saying Yes to a Life Without Limits, published under the Oprah imprint. He has done things no one outside of Oprah herself has done. And still, the criticism came.

This conversation is about what you do with that. How do you hold your identity when the world tries to hand you someone else's version of it? Emmanuel turned down comparisons to Michael Strahan because he understood something most people miss: you cannot become the greatest version of yourself by trying to become someone who already exists.

He stopped setting goals. Not because he stopped caring, but because he realized goals create a ceiling. Instead he started moving toward objectives, things that stretch beyond what logic says is possible. He fell and got back up. He didn't fail. There is a difference.

If you have ever achieved something and felt emptier than you expected, or gotten harder on yourself the more successful you became, this episode will crack something open in you.

Emmanuel’s books:

Uncomfortable Conversations with a Jew

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Illogical: Saying Yes to a Life Without Limits

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Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man

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Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Boy

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In this episode you will:

 • Understand why reframing failure as falling, not losing, can keep you moving when everything feels like a setback

 • Explore the self-love scale Emmanuel used to assess himself at a six and a half, and what it takes to grow that number through success instead of despite it

 • Discover why Emmanuel Acho stopped setting goals and replaced them with objectives that remove the ceiling on what you can achieve

 • Learn how to protect your identity when success brings comparisons, criticism, and pressure to become someone else

 • Hear the story of how a call from Oprah Winfrey led to Emmanuel becoming the only person outside of Oprah to have multiple books published under her imprint

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Why You're Still Playing Small (And How to Stop) | Emmanuel Acho

You can be wildly successful and still be quietly falling apart inside.

Joel Kinnaman has appeared in some of the most talked-about shows in Hollywood. He has starred in The Killing, Robocop, House of Cards, Altered Carbon, and is currently in his fifth season of For All Mankind. And he will be the first to tell you that none of that made the war inside his head any quieter.

Before every live theater performance for three straight years, he threw up. He kept a bucket backstage. The negative voices in his mind were relentless, and he spent years drinking heavily, using drugs, and force-feeding himself in a desperate attempt to hide the shame he felt about a physical condition that had left him feeling deformed since childhood.

What changed everything was not a breakthrough moment. It was a choice to stop running from the fear and bury himself in the work. He memorized a 105-minute one-man show in 10 days, playing 16 different characters, and walked on stage without throwing up for the first time. That experience taught him something he still carries: preparation is armor. The deeper a role is in your bones, the more freedom you have to be alive inside it.

He is still working on the personal side. He describes himself as a disaster in relationships, not from a lack of care, but from years of treating his career as the only thing that could not touch him. He talks about wanting to find the balance between the structure that builds trust and the childlike wonder that keeps him creative. That tension is where this conversation lives.

Joel’s IMDB

In this episode you will:

 • Understand how shame about a physical condition called pectus excavatum triggered an eating disorder that took years to unpack and overcome

 • Discover how Joel turned debilitating stage fright and a 3-year pattern of pre-performance vomiting into a breakthrough that rewired his relationship with fear

 • Learn why preparation is the most underrated performance skill and why Joel insists on being at least 3 nights ahead on every scene he shoots

 • Hear why Joel sees himself as a different man in his career versus his personal relationships, and what he believes he needs to change to close that gap

 • Explore how Joel uses psilocybin experiences, breathwork, and the Buddhist concept of shepa to create space between triggers and reaction in his daily life

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Fear, Shame, and the Fight to Get Out of Your Own Way | Joel Kinnaman

Too many options isn't freedom. It's paralysis dressed up as possibility.

David Epstein, investigative journalist and author of the bestseller Range, is back with a counterintuitive idea: the constraints you've been avoiding might be the exact thing that unlocks your best work. His new book, Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better, makes the case that boundaries don't limit you. They focus you.

You'll hear how a company in the early nineties assembled arguably the greatest collection of tech talent ever, had unlimited resources, and still collapsed under the weight of its own options. Meanwhile, two people who left that company with small, focused projects built eBay and the Palm Pilot. The lesson isn't about talent. It's about the bounding box.

David introduces his BCS Press Release framework: batch your work so you're not toggling all day, make your commitments visible so you can actually subtract the right ones, use satisficing rules to make decisions without drowning in choices, and write the press release before you start anything, so you know what matters before you're too deep in to see clearly.

This conversation also gets personal. David talks about the childhood arm injury that ended his baseball career and pushed him toward running and memory techniques he still uses today. He opens up about forgiveness, about the grudges that are hard to shake, and about the Harvard Study of Adult Development, the longest study of human happiness ever conducted, which concluded that happiness is love. Real relationships. Mutual obligation. The stuff you keep forgetting to schedule.

David’s socials:

Website

Instagram

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David’s books:

 Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better
 Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World
 The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance

In this episode you will:

 • Discover why having too many options can kill your creativity and how the psychology of the path of least resistance explains it

 • Learn the BCS Press Release framework for batching work, making commitments visible, and using satisficing rules to stay focused

 • Understand the difference between kind and wicked learning environments and why the 10,000-hour rule only applies to one of them

 • Explore what MIT, Northwestern, and Census Bureau research reveals about the average age of fast-growing startup founders and why late bloomers have an edge

 • Apply the subtractive neglect bias and the subtraction game to cut commitments and create more clarity in your work and relationships

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The Science of Doing Less to Achieve More | David Epstein

Most people learn how to love the hard way. What if you didn't have to?

Faith Jenkins is a TV judge who has presided over more divorce cases than most people will ever witness in a lifetime. She has also been through roughly 10 serious relationships of her own, waited until 42 to marry, and did both pre-engagement and premarital counseling before saying yes. She knows this terrain from every angle.

What she learned will shift the way you think about every relationship you are in or hoping to find. The true measure of someone is not who they are when things are going great. It is who they are under pressure. Pain is inevitable, she says. Suffering is optional.

You cannot be cynical about love and expect to attract it at the same time. That single idea might change everything. Somewhere between the heartbreak and the closed doors is the version of you who is finally ready, and that is the person your partner actually gets to meet.

Faith married the right person six months after writing down that she would. She did not fight the breakup that made space for him. She radically accepted it, let it go, and stepped into the biggest open door of her life.

Faith’s book: Sis, Don't Settle: How to Stay Smart in Matters of the Heart

Faith’s website

Faith on YouTube

Faith on Instagram

In this episode you will:

 • Understand why emotional maturity, not chemistry, is what separates a healthy ending from a destructive one

 • Learn Faith's practice of radical acceptance and how separating your feelings from the facts protects your peace through breakups

 • Discover why doing pre-engagement counseling before getting engaged gives you real clarity on alignment before pressure sets in

 • Recognize the hidden reasons so many people settle, from fear of loneliness to past experiences that erode self-worth

 • Apply Faith's approach to staying open to love after betrayal, and how reframing your past protects your future partner from paying for it

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Why You Keep Choosing the Wrong Person (And How to Finally Stop) | Faith Jenkins

You already know sleep matters. What you don't know is why you keep waking up at 2 AM, why your tracker is probably lying to you, and why the rules you've been following may not be meant for you.

Dr. Michael Breus is one of the world's leading sleep doctors - not just a sleep expert, but a clinical psychologist who actually treats patients and pressure-tests every theory in real life. The difference matters. The rule saying you need a pitch-black, 65-degree room with no TV and no partner? He sleeps with two French bulldogs and a big screen on. His point isn't that sleep hygiene doesn't matter. It's that it has to work for your actual life.

One thing that might reshape how you think about your body: every human on earth wakes up between 1 and 3 AM. It's biology. Your core body temperature drops to prevent hypothermia, and your body briefly surfaces. Most people roll over and go back to sleep. If you don't, the fix isn't pills - it's understanding what's happening and using tools like 4-7-8 breathing to lower your heart rate below 60 and let sleep return naturally.

Your chronotype - lion, bear, wolf, or dolphin - is genetic. It shifts across your lifetime. Forcing a wolf to be a lion doesn't make them a better performer; it makes them worse. The biggest unlock, according to Dr. Breus, isn't more sleep. It's doing the right things at the right time for your specific biology.

Dr. Breus has a five-step daily framework he gives every patient. It's specific, it's sequenced, and most people are violating at least three of the steps without knowing it.

Dr. Breus’s books:

 Sleep Drink Breathe: Simple Daily Habits for Profound Long-Term Health
 Energize!: Go from Dragging Ass to Kicking It in 30 Days
 The Power of When: Discover Your Chronotype and the Best Time to Eat Lunch, Ask for a Raise, Have Sex, Write a Novel, Take Your Meds, and More
 The Sleep Doctor's Diet Plan: Lose Weight Through Better Sleep
 Beauty Sleep: Look Younger, Lose Weight, and Feel Great Through Better Sleep

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Dr. Breus on Instagram

Dr. Breus on LinkedIn

In this episode you will:

 • Learn the five-step framework Dr. Breus uses with CEOs, elite athletes, and patients to dramatically improve sleep quality without medication

 • Discover the 4-7-8 breathing technique developed by Dr. Andrew Weil and how it lowers your heart rate to unlock sleep when your mind won't stop

 • Understand chronotype science - whether you're a lion, bear, wolf, or dolphin - and how aligning your schedule to your biology changes everything from performance to sex drive

 • Uncover the truth about sleep trackers, melatonin supplements, and why eight hours is not the universal target you've been sold

 • Master the Napa Latte protocol and non-sleep deep rest (Yoga Nidra) as emergency recovery tools when life disrupts your sleep

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The Sleep Doctor's 5 Rules for Your Best Night Ever | Dr. Michael Breus

Your effort isn't the problem. Your programming is.

Lewis Howes spent years outworking everyone around him, and it still wasn't enough. He had the discipline, the results, even the New York Times bestseller. But inside he still felt like that broke kid on the couch who wasn't enough. That gap between outer success and inner peace is where this episode begins.

Most people are running a mental operating system they never chose. The beliefs you hold about money, love, and what you deserve weren't decisions you made. They were copied and pasted from your past, reinforced by your environment, and mistaken for facts. If you don't question that program, you'll keep repeating it for the next 10, 20, 30 years.

This episode walks you through five specific steps to change that. Not just a mindset shift. A full identity shift. Because people don't fail for lack of effort. They fail because they try to change their behavior without changing who they believe they are. And your identity always wins.

You can't build a new mind in an old environment. That means auditing the content you consume, the people you let in, and the conversations you keep having. Lewis shares what it actually cost him to walk away from relationships and environments that were quietly anchoring him to his old self, and why it was the only move that made everything else work.

If you do the work here for 30 days, you won't just think differently. You'll start showing up differently. And that's when your results begin to match the version of you that you're building inside.

Make Money Easy: Create Financial Freedom and Live a Richer Life

The Greatness Mindset: Unlock the Power of Your Mind and Live Your Best Life Today

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The School of Greatness: A Real-World Guide to Living Bigger, Loving Deeper, and Leaving a Legacy

In this episode you will:

 • Discover why your default mental programming, not your effort, is the real ceiling on your results and how to become aware of it for the first time

 • Learn the pattern interruption method Lewis used to stop old triggers from running his life and how to apply it in real time throughout your day

 • Understand the identity shift principle and why changing behavior without changing identity always fails, using the concrete example of how identity must lead behavior

 • Apply the two keys to subconscious rewiring, repetition and emotion, so that daily practices actually lock into lasting change instead of fading after a week

 • Build a mental environment protection plan that guards your mind from the people, content, and conversations quietly pulling you back to who you used to be

For more information go to https://lewishowes.com/1929

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"The idea of greatness is not just in one area anymore. It's about all areas of your life." - AJ Roberts

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