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Goalhanger

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern follow the money to bring you insightful stories from the world of business and finance. 
Who’s making money and who’s spending it? Who’s investing, and who’s innovating? How will AI affect the way we work and why are Saudi Arabia buying up sport? How can the UK economy recover its productivity and adapt for the future?
Steph and Robert tap their extensive business contacts to answer these questions and decode the jargon to help make sense of the financial world.

The Rest Is Money

Robert and Steph speak to Paul Johnson, Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, about whether Labour can fix our creaking public services in next years spending review, if it’s realistic that Wes Streeting will ‘reform’ the NHS and why vital data on the UK jobs market is so poor.

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119. Can Labour’s spending review really mend public services?

Steph and Robert are joined by Sir Bill Browder, political activist and co-founder of Hermitage Capital Management, formerly the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia, to discuss how using Russia’s frozen assets against them could help Kiev win the war, why Putin won’t take a Trump peace deal and why the toppling of the Assad regime may only prolong the war in Ukraine.

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120. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 1

Robert and Steph talk to Sir Bill Browder about making billions after the fall of the Soviet Union, only to end up with a target from Putin on his back. This is a story of murder and corruption leading him into his life’s work persuading governments to hit human rights abusers where it hurts. The threat of Putin’s revenge is ever present and Bill’s stories include the time he was bundled into a car by Spanish police fearing for his life.

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121. The Man Most Feared By Putin: Part 2

Google is making huge bets on artificial intelligence and quantum computing. It is reinventing how millions of us work and live. But in the process is it also eating its own lunch, destroying the search business that turned it into one of the world’s most valuable companies? Steph and Robert put all this and more to Matt Brittin, Google’s most powerful European executive, as he prepares to step down and quit Google after 17 years.

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122. Google At A Crossroads

Robert and Steph answer your questions including whether we are heading inexorably towards another financial crisis and whether the UK might be more prosperous if the National Health Service were privatised. 

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123. When Will The Next Financial Crisis Be?

Steph and Robert reflect on some of The Rest Is Money’s big insights from 2024, including why governments should focus on improving our happiness rather than our incomes and why Labour’s biggest mistake was to ignore the black hole in the public finances before the election. 

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124. Can Labour Restore Public Trust in 2025?

Why are so many low income families living in the kind of slum conditions that would have shamed the Victorians? And why are so many of these slums in social and council properties? Robert and Steph look for explanations and solutions, and ask whether Labour’s promise to build 1.5m homes will help, in a conversation with ITV’s award-winning investigations editor Dan Hewitt. 

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125. The Scandal Of Slum UK

Steph and Robert explain why 2025 will be the most important year of our lives, and assess whether it will be a terrible or great year. It is all about the unraveling of globalization and the proliferation of wars. One word nutshells the world on a fulcrum: Trump.

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126. Why 2025 Will Be The Most Important Year Of Our Lives

Karen Ward, Chief Market Strategist for one of the leading financial institutions in the world, JP Morgan Asset Management, talks to Robert and Steph about how Starmer can restore investors’ confidence, why she worries that the surge in the Magnificent 7 huge tech stocks is over, how AI can make most of us better off and whether Trump will be less radical than his rhetoric.

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127. Is Trump’s Bark Worse Than His Bite?

Robert gives us his take on 'Starmer vs Musk' and Steph tells us why she thinks business rates are going to be a big problem this year. There’s also a discussion about misunderstood concepts in economics, first up: GDP. Plus we catch-up on the exciting post Steph and Robert received over Christmas. A clue: it involves a Clinton and a Truss.

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128. Will Starmer Stop Musk's Meddling?

Can Boeing recover from the safety concerns surrounding its planes? Are MPs' personal property investments causing them to go light on housing market regulation? Is the gamification of fitness a trend that will stick around? Listen as Steph and Robert answer all these questions and more.

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25. Boeing’s turbulent future, the gamification of fitness, and the dilemma of MPs as landlords

25. Boeing’s turbulent future, the gamification of fitness, and the dilemma of MPs as landlords

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