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Goalhanger

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories.
Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market.
Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape.
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The Rest Is Money

Is immigration good or bad for economic growth? Why are we spending so much money on things like migrant hotels? Can we support our ageing population without migrants? 

Steph speaks to migration and asylum expert and policy maker, Zoe Gardner.

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200. Should Asylum Seekers Be Given Jobs?

Who were the traders who took the hit when the public turned on the City after the financial crisis? How did Tom Hayes lose his marriage, all his savings and his freedom in a case that has since been over-turned by the Supreme Court? Why will he get no compensation?

In the second part of this two-episode interview, Robert talks to Tom Hayes about how he lost everything when he took the rap for the flaws in the LIbor interest rate system.

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199. When George Osborne Went After The Bankers, I Went To Prison

Why did the authorities jail LIBOR trader Tom Hayes when so many reckless bankers went unpunished? How was Libor so central to the multi trillion dollar financial system? What did Hayes do to put himself in the firing line?

In the first part of a two-part series, Robert talks to Tom Hayes and shines a light on the true Libor scandal. It isn’t what you think.

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198. The Trader Who Paid For The Financial Crisis

Is the government already in a debt trap, where the economy can’t grow fast enough to cover its rising interest bill? Can the government spur economic growth enough to rescue the UK from relentless tax rises and spending squeezes? How should the machinery of government be reformed to turn a growth mission into a practical reality? 

Robert and Steph look at the warning from the respected NIESR that a debt trap may be an imminent danger. 

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197. How Close Is The UK To A Lethal Debt Spiral?

How much harm to the collective solidarity of nations has been done by America’s resurgent nationalism? Can the global economy absorb the costs of Trump’s tariffs without a slump? Is there any case for Trump’s new 50% tariffs on India?

Robert speaks with Philip Coggan, former Economist columnist about his new book The Economic Consequences of Mr Trump.

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196. Will Low Income Voters Ever Turn On Trump?

What are the repercussions of global trade deals being put together with little to no detail in the actual agreements? How has the US President convinced the European Commission to agree to purchase $600bn worth of US energy products when it doesn’t have the mechanism to do so? Did Trump end up winning his game of "4D chess" with the global markets?

Steph speaks to The Economist’s Wall Street Editor, Mike Bird.

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195. Why The EU Accepted A Raw Deal With Trump

Why is the fastest growing demographic of shoppers not being properly catered for? What can retailers do to change that and make more money? And why is this important for the whole economy, not just the 15 million people in the UK directly affected by it? 

Steph speaks to Heather Jackson CEO of GenM about the economics of the menopause.

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194. How A £600bn 'Ghost Market’ Is Being Neglected

Should Starmer and Reeves worry less about breaching the manifesto to restore growth? How could they have negotiated a better trade deal with the EU to avoid the black hole in the public finances and avoid tax rises? How and why have small businesses been dodging billions of pounds in taxes?

Robert and Steph discuss.

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193. How Labour Could Have Avoided Tax Rises

Why is Hewlett Packard still going after Mike Lynch’s money? Trump wants the US central bank boss out, but will it give him more control over interest rates? And how much are the trade tariffs hurting the US economy? 

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192. Can We Cope With Trump’s 15% Permanent Global Tariff?

Is the British Business Bank taking enough risk to close the funding gap that holds back UK enterprises? How do we stop the unicorns relocating to the US? Do we need a new name for and whole new approach to pension savings? 

Steph and Robert talk to the government-owned bank’s chair Stephen Welton about what he’ll do with all the extra billions Rachel Reeves has allocated him to support small businesses.

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191. Is The Government’s British Business Bank Bold Enough?

Steph and Robert speak to Richard Hughes, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility, who has run scenarios on what will happen to the economy as Donald Trump imposes tariffs and the world responds. He also discusses whether the OBR has too much influence over government and stultifies growth, and how Rachel Reeves’ fiscal “headroom” may be wiped out again very shortly.
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152. Liberation Day: Will Trump’s Tariffs Kill Reeves’ Growth?

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