#170 Apprenticeships, Sabbaticals & "Good Work" — Steve Schlafman & Matt Yao on slowing down, deprogramming, unlearning, learning from others, deciding to quit, going on a sabbatical, not being jealous anymore, competitiveness and enoughness, finding good work, ambition, the apprenticeship, Downshift, decelerator, marriage, family and reframing money

Steve is a professional coach and the founder of Downshift — the world's first decelerator. He has left a career in venture, but he remains ambitious, it's just that his ambition is now to have a good, multidimentional life, where he can be a good dad for his kids. Matt has left a traditional path early on to write, travel and discover his own path. When he met Steve, he offered him to become his apprentice and joined Downshift.

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(00:00) - Intro • (02:52) - The scripts that Steve & Matt grew up with

• (05:38) - Slowing down, deprogramming and unlearning

• (12:30) - The cocoon stage

• (14:43) - Deciding to quit

• (19:03) - Learning from others on the path and having children

• (25:56) - Trust

• (29:07) - Matt's sabbatical, finding good work

• (35:04) - No jealousy, competitiveness vs enoughness

• (39:14) - Matt's apprenticeship with Steve

• (48:23) - Putting yourself in a place where it's easy to help you

• (52:21) - Downshift & Ambition

• (01:02:52) - Marriage & Family

• (01:10:40) - Reframing money, skiing and oatmeal

• (01:17:01) - Launching decelerator

• (01:21:12) - Closing remarks

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