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Paul Millerd

The Pathless Path is hosted by Paul Millerd - a writer, creator, and consultant. He has conversations with freelancers, self-employed entrepreneurs, creators, and vagabonds who share their perspectives on their relationship with work, burnout, bootstrapping, indie hacking, remote work, reinvention, creativity, sabbaticals, leisure, self-employment, unconventional living, and digital nomadism. Past guests include Ali Abdaal, Russ Roberts, Kevin Kelly, Khe Hy, David Senra, Derek Sivers, Joe Hudson, Luke Burgis, Ben Hunt, Dan Vassallo, Steph Smith, Alex Pang, Visakan Veerasamy, Michael Ashcroft, Kyla Scalon, Trung Phan, Justin Welch, and more.

The Pathless Path with Paul Millerd

I'm sharing this conversation I had a couple of months ago with Tom Peters. Our convo got cut a bit short but it was a fun conversation reflecting on his trajectory, why he got kicked out of McKinsey

To learn more about Tom: His Website

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#140 Tom Peters - Fired from McKinsey to Top Business Thought Leader

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Episode Desription
Paul Millerd is a 39-year-old writer, ex-consultant, and advocate for ditching the default path in favor of what he calls “the pathless path.” (pmillerd.com / @p_millerd)

Paul walked away from a promising corporate consulting career—think McKinsey, prestige, and six-figure salaries—to pursue a life of writing, experimenting, and global wandering. He describes how he initially struggled with unlearning his achievement-oriented mindset, why the idea of good work (work that energizes) became his guiding principle, and how his first self-published book, The Pathless Path, briefly and unexpectedly earned six figures.

We discuss the philosophical basis of work and money, how to avoid the traps of both scarcity and overachievement, and how the value of exercising your freedom is limited by how others exercise their own freedom. (In other words: if you're free to hike on a sunny Wednesday afternoon, and no one's available to go with you, are you really free?)

Paul and his wife have a young daughter, and they struggle to find and live near other, like-minded families. We talk about how online communities help Paul stay connected while living nomadically between Texas and Taiwan and how online self-education was invaluable to his success. We conclude with a discussion of navigating fear and uncertainty on the pathless path.

Throughout the conversation, Paul stays refreshingly honest about the tensions between freedom and stability, the allure of easy money, and the ever-present temptation to fall back into old habits of achievement and validation. Energized by this conversation, I ended up talking more than usual about the tricky balance of factors that leads to a Dirtbag Rich existence.

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"Dirtbag Rich" - Blake Boles & I Talk About Extracting More Freedom From Life

Hello! I'm back! Expect a slow ramp, but there are new episodes coming!

I talked with Nat Eliason about his journey as a writer, from early experiments with ideas to fully embracing writing as a career. We discussed the challenges and rewards of moving from nonfiction to fiction, the trade-offs between traditional and self-publishing, and the importance of audience engagement. We also explored how AI is impacting writing, strategies for gathering feedback, and fiction’s role in addressing societal issues. Nat closed by sharing his vision for the future of his writing and the opportunities ahead.

Links & book info!

 • Husk Special Direct Sale: 
Buy here • or 
https://shop.nateliason.com/products/husk • Husk on Amazon: 
Buy here • or here
 • More of Nat's stuff: 
His Website • and 
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Becoming A Writer - Nat Eliason on his upcoming fiction release, traditional publishing vs. self-publishing, AI tools, tinkering, readers, launch plans

Paul talks about why he is passionate about the future of work and shares some of his personal journey

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#1 - Why do I care about the future of work?

Although Noel claims he lacks wisdom, he has a lot of it. He describes his career as “eclectic.” Starting his career in the 1980’s the environment around him (greed, money) influenced him to question what he was really trying to accomplish. He took a long term perspective and tried to focus on what he did not want his career to be at sixty — which he put simply as not doing “the things he wanted to do”. Although on a more corporate track early on in his career, he tried to continuously reflect on what mattered — even if it raised some eyebrows in among his peers.

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#2 Noel Boyland on “doing the things you want to do” in your career

David was born abroad then moved to the US at a young age, all while being raised to believe that the path to success rests solely on going to school and getting a “safe” job with a big company. For the last 11 years he did just that, and by traditional measures of success, it looked like things were going well. Unfortunately, starting on Day 1 of his first job, he could never shake one, recurring feeling: “I really, really, really don’t like this”.In December 2017, after a lot of saving and planning, he worked up the courage to quit his job, build his retirement house in France, and focus on building a life around a freelance career.Forget the big house and fancy cars, his new measure of success is the amount of control he has over his time. He is using his time to explore his passion for learning new things, particularly in technology and programming, as well as helping others who are also looking to forge their own path away from the cubicle farm.Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/thinkBoundlessCheck out more episodes: https://www.think-boundless.com/podcastIdeas, questions, guest ideas? paul@think-boundless.com

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#3 David Vaucher on Ending His Career to Start His Life

Chris is the founder of uncommonly and an avid fan of the long-running CBS television show Survivor. A former teacher, marketer, and management consultant, Chris has an eclectic mix of skills and professional experience. Chris has worked with over a dozen Fortune 500 clients spanning multiple industries including Media & Entertainment, Publishing, Insurance, Pharmaceuticals, and Corporate Social Responsibility. He is obsessed with inspiring great leadership and creating incredible learning experiences that change the way people think and operate.Learn More:Chris' Website: www.un-commonly.comHis Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/TopherDean87Links:*Podcast: www.boundlesspod.com*Support: www.patreon.com/boundless*Show Notes: https://wp.me/p9AOW1-cY

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#4 Chris Donohoe on "uncommon" leadership, starting his own firm and "limitless creation"

In this episode Cody Royle and I discuss what sets high performing NFL organizations like the Patriots and the Giants (and others apart from the rest). Cody is the author of Where Other’s Wont: Taking People Innovation from the Locker Room into the Boardroom. His book is available here: http://amzn.to/2E5R88kCONTEST DETAILS: I am giving away two of Cody's books for free. Just retweet this episode with the hashtag #boundlesspod or send a screenshot of you subscribed to the podcast to paul@think-boundless.comLinks:* www.boundlesspod.com* www.whereotherswont.comSupport the podcast & join the community:* www.patreon.com/thinkboundless

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#5 Super Bowl Minisode - Cody Royle on The Patriots and what business can learn from sports

Janet is one of my favorite people. We have a similar belief that people are capable of more than they believe and that alternative paths are more realistic and the reality than people realize.Not a fan of default paths from an early age, one quote stood out from Janet that she has continuously asked herself throughout her life:“The conventional path is not going to work for me, what can I do instead?”Janet first started “hacking” life in high school when she decided that the standard curriculum wasn’t for her. Despite pushback from parents, teachers, and peers, she followed her curiosity and negotiated an alternative path — avoiding things like Math to go deeper with teachers in social studies, religion and politics.Her next “hack” was to apply to college in Canada. Starting with the constraints that she wanted to avoid debt and that her parents would support the equivalent of in-state tuition she looked for different options and found a way when her uncle convinced her to look at Canadian universities. Although taking a non-conventional path, she learned a lot about being able to adapt that would help her later on in her career. Full writeup: https://think-boundless.com/2018/02/07/934/Janet: http://www.careerjanet.comLinks:* www.boundlesspod.comSupport the podcast & join the community:* www.patreon.com/thinkboundless

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#6 Janet Matta - Rock Star Career Coach On The Alternative Paths We Fail To See

Growing up all Cody thought about was sports. He saw his path as becoming a professional Aussie Rules Football player. However, after competing at the highest level of the sport, he quickly saw felt his “talent just fell away” at the age of 18. He struggled to live in the moment and stewed on the fact that everyone around him seemed much more talented. While this period would help him realize that he was better suited as a coach than a player, it took him a few years to make that realization.

Show Notes

Support the Podcast: Patreon

Podcast Information: #BoundlessPod

Paul: @p_millerd & Cody: @codyroyle
Cody's Book: Where Others Wont

Book Recommendations:

Legacy: What The All Blacks can teach us about the business of lifeOriginals by Adam Grant • and 
A Dozen Things I Learned From Adam Grant
Links:

altMBA • Simon Sinek: 
Start With WhyNetflix CultureHow Netflix's Culture Got Patty McCord FiredBoundless Podcast: Episode 3

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#7 Cody Royle on The Talent & Performance Secrets of The Sports World

Alex was crushing it early in his career, ending up on Wall Street after getting a combined JD/MBA. But after a few years, he went looking for his next mountain, aiming his ambition at the tech sector. He ended up co-founding LiveOak, a company he eventually sold in 2020. After that, he struggled to determine what was next and finally decided to walk away from more than a million dollars. Now he's embracing non-doing, reconnecting with his passions, and figuring out what's next. 

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Links:

 • Twitter: 
@CantHardyWait

⌛TIMESTAMPS

(01:08) - The scripts Alex grew up with
 • (10:06) - Law School & Business School 

 • (22:41) - Wall Street, Banking & The Pride in suffering 

 • (30:55) - Tech Start-ups, coffee meetings and friendlessness 

 • (56:19) - Exiting his tech company & "Total Work" 

 • (01:14:24) - His Sabbatical, Finding Work Worth Doing & The American Mind 

 • (01:21:05) - Forgotten Hobbies, Borders & The Love for The Present 

 • (01:29:02) - Closing remarks

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#145 Capitalist by Day, Spiritual by Night - Alex Hardy on achievement, Wall Street, tech startups, exiting his company, pride & suffering, his sabbatical, suppressing his curiosity and rediscovering his passions

#145 Capitalist by Day, Spiritual by Night - Alex Hardy on achievement, Wall Street, tech startups, exiting his company, pride & suffering, his sabbatical, suppressing his curiosity and rediscovering his passions

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