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Mindvalley

The Mindvalley Podcast brings you the world's leading minds in personal growth, exploring cutting-edge ideas for mind, body, spirit, and work. Join Mindvalley founder Vishen Lakhiani and renowned TV host Megan Pormer as they dive deep into the transformative wisdom that traditional education often misses. Unlock the secrets to extraordinary living, expand your consciousness, and discover the tools to create a life you love. Join us every week - Big names. Big topics. Big transformations. Welcome to The Mindvalley Podcast.

The Mindvalley Show with Vishen

Are you a big dreamer but you don’t really know how to achieve your most ambitious goals? Are you tired of trying and failing? In this episode, Vishen Lakhiani, founder of Mindvalley, outlines your new gameplan with regards to how to set goals and achieve them FAST.
 
 Vishen Lakhiani is an entrepreneur, author, and activist on a mission to raise human consciousness. He is the founder and CEO of Mindvalley, an award-winning education movement with millions of students worldwide. He is also a two-time New York Times bestselling author of The Code of the Extraordinary Mind and The Buddha and the Badass. 
 
 Listen out for:
 - José Silva & The Silva Method.
 - Vishen’s spiritual path.
 - 5 Clues to reach your goals.
 - The Goal Hitting Techniques.
 - Live bonus Q&A session.
 
 Bonus: 
 - Discover how to access altered states of mind for powerful guidance & problem solving with Vishen Lakhiani in this FREE Mindvalley masterclass 👉 https://go.mindvalley.com/Silva 
 - Subscribe to Mindvalley Membership to discover 30+ Mindvalley Quests, watch our podcast sessions live, interact with the guests, connect with the world’s best teachers and find your community 👉 https://go.mindvalley.com/NOW 
 
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5 Techniques To Hit Your Top 3 Goals Faster - Vishen Lakhiani

Fame may look glamorous, but Lucy Hale reveals the complexities behind the spotlight, from battling addiction to rediscovering her self-worth. As a celebrated actress and singer with accolades like Teen Choice Awards and People's Choice Award, Lucy shares the raw truths of her journey. This episode offers a candid glimpse into her struggles with alcohol, anxiety, the relentless chase for validation—and the pivotal moments that helped her break free. If you've ever felt lost in the need to please others, Lucy’s story will inspire you to find strength within.

We get into the tools that helped Lucy transform her life, including the importance of asking for help and staying true to your emotions. There's a wealth of information on how to navigate personal challenges, especially as someone who absorbs the feelings of others. Lucy also unpacks the profound impact of her spiritual awakening and sobriety, sharing practical insights to help anyone facing their own “dark night of the soul.” It’s an honest, empowering conversation about turning pain into growth. 

This isn’t just a story of resilience; it’s a reminder that healing is messy, beautiful, and worth every step. Lucy’s honesty will leave you feeling seen, hopeful, and ready to take that next step in your own journey. Whether you know her from Pretty Little Liars or you’re simply looking for some soulful inspiration, this episode will leave you reflecting on the strength you didn’t know you had.

Key Timestamps

[00:00:00] Intro 
[00:01:14] Intuition and emotional sensitivity.
[00:06:24] Feeling like a burden.
[00:08:04] Embracing being "too much."
[00:15:18] Desire for acting as a child.
[00:18:01] Breakthrough role in career.
[00:22:09] Redefining success and happiness.
[00:27:21] Spiritual awakening after addiction.
[00:32:33] Healing and energy frequency.
[00:39:03] Spiritual intervention and personal growth.
[00:41:52] Shame and isolation.
[00:48:51] Female empowerment vs. victimhood.
[00:53:10] Life is happening for you.
[00:54:48] Owning your personal story.

Memorable Quotes

"Anything that's negative isn't ours anyway. Our true nature as people is love and pure and joy. So actually, anything that's other than that isn't ours. And that's a relief because it means we don't have to attach to it." – Lucy Hale

"I have so much gratitude for what I've been through. Because those moments, holy crap, like that has given me so much perspective on how I want to feel. I didn't give up." – Lucy Hale

Where to Find Our Guest
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lucyhale/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LucyHale/
X/Twitter: https://x.com/lucyhale

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 
Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

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Lucy Hale: Rising to Fame, Overcoming Addiction, and Finding Self-Love | Ep62

Have you ever looked at a small, “boring” business and wondered, "What if this could change my life?” That’s exactly what Codie Sanchez, Award-winning Journalist-turned-Investor and Founder of Contrarian Thinking, did—and now she’s helping others do the same. With over 2.5 million followers, a New York Times best-selling book, and a mission to create one million financially free humans, Codie’s turning curiosity into a movement. In this episode, she shares her no-nonsense approach to building wealth through everyday businesses and deal-making.

Codie doesn’t just talk about money—she’s on a mission to redefine it as freedom. With an M.B.A. from Georgetown and experience co-founding Unconventional Acquisitions, she knows how to make fear of debt and negotiation a thing of the past. Her expertise in leveraging skills for equity and unlocking opportunities in overlooked businesses will blow your mind. Plus, she’s got a way of explaining it all that feels practical, empowering, and refreshingly real.

Tune in and learn how to spot hidden opportunities, own your financial confidence, and see business in a whole new way. If you’re ready to challenge the status quo and step into financial freedom, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss.

Key Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction. 
[00:02:04] Money equals freedom.
[00:04:49] Curiosity leads to financial success.
[00:09:26] Business transition and opportunities.
[00:16:37] Purpose: Passion meets money.
[00:23:35] Worst businesses to buy.
[00:25:41] Risk management in business.
[00:28:00] The myth of debt.
[00:33:00] Self-worth and entrepreneurship.
[00:39:07] Wealth vs. status games.
[00:42:21] Buying a business with expertise.
[00:50:21] Top talent and wealth sharing.
[00:52:25] Negotiating from kindness and confidence.
[00:55:25] Technology's impact on humanity.
[01:02:21] Community-owned businesses and partnerships.

Memorable Quotes

"It's not a lack of money you don't have. It's not a lack of intelligence you don't have. It's a lack of knowledge. And when you know that—that should be super empowering." – Codie Sanchez

"Your bank account will be a reflection of two things, I think. The speed at which you move and the amount with which you are comfortable getting uncomfortable. The faster you move and the more you take on discomfort, the more money you're going to make." – Codie Sanchez 

Where to Find Our Guest

Website: https://codiesanchez.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/codiesanchez/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/codiesanchezbiz/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codiesanchez/
X/Twitter: https://x.com/Codie_Sanchez
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PodcastBigDeal
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@realcodiesanchez

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 

Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

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Codie Sanchez on Building Wealth Through Creative Deal-Making | Ep63

What if you could turn back the clock on aging, heal emotional wounds, and unlock boundless energy—all through science? That’s what Dave Asprey, the Father of Biohacking, has dedicated his life to exploring. In this conversation, he shares how simple shifts in your body and mind can change everything—including a story about a woman who finally found peace after years of searching. It’s eye-opening stuff that’ll make you think differently about what’s possible for your health and happiness.

Dave gets real about aging—what’s actually happening in your body and how you can take charge, no matter your age. He breaks down the seven pillars of aging and shares his own journey of losing 100 pounds and sharpening his brain to outperform his younger self. His advice? It’s practical, doable, and way more empowering than the usual “just get more sleep” tips. 

And we’re not just talking about the physical stuff here—this goes deep. Dave walks us through how hormones affect everything from motivation to mood and even leads a forgiveness meditation to help you let go of what’s been holding you back. It’s the kind of conversation that leaves you thinking, “Wow, I needed this.” If you’re ready to feel lighter, stronger, and just better all around, don’t miss this one.

Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast, including any advice, opinions, or statements are for informational and entertainment purposes only. The content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice. Always seek the advice of a qualified healthcare provider.

Key Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction. 
[00:02:25] Biohacking emotional trauma healing.
[00:04:18] Aging and its complexities.
[00:09:14] Manifesting a positive aging vision.
[00:12:37] Women and testosterone empowerment.
[00:14:46] Hormone replacement and motivation.
[00:19:43] Neurofeedback and brain optimization.
[00:25:27] Forgiveness meditation guidance.
[00:29:23] Gratitude as a path to forgiveness.
[00:35:50] AI and ancient knowledge.
[00:39:46] Autism and biohacking solutions.
[00:41:04] Mast cell activation disorder explained.
[00:45:46] Extreme mold avoidance experiences.
[00:49:07] Fear of death and immortality.
[00:52:20] Blood tests and early cancer detection.

Memorable Quotes

"It's possible with biohacking to go in and remove the things that trigger you and to edit your beliefs on reality. And it lets you see and experience different things." – Dave Asprey

"We all have a life-threatening condition. It's called being alive. That's how it works. And I look at death as exactly the same as being born. And I just want to die at a time and by a method of my choosing." – Dave Asprey

Where to Find Our Guest

Website: https://daveasprey.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dave.asprey/
X/Twitter: https://x.com/daveasprey
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DaveAspreyBPR 

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 

Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

﻿Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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The Science of Biohacking: Unlocking Energy, Health, and Longevity | Ep64

Can breathing really do what medicine couldn’t? Niraj Naik, Founder and CEO of Soma Breath, a former pharmacist turned breathwork expert, shares how he used breathwork to heal himself when doctors said his illness was incurable. His journey will make you rethink everything about health and what’s possible with just your breath.

\In this episode, Niraj explains how simple breathing techniques can ease anxiety, boost focus, and even activate the effects of psychedelics—yes, you read that right! He shares the science behind it and how breath connects to energy and emotions in ways most of us have never realized.

It’s not just about healing—it’s about living with more joy and connection. From his personal breakthroughs to his creative “BJing” (Breath Jockeying) sessions, Niraj shows how breathwork can change your life in ways you never expected.

Key Timestamps

[00:00] Niraj Naik and Soma breathwork.
[00:04:32] How does breathwork unlock energy and healing?
[00:08:45] The profound effect of a simple breathing exercise
[00:09:04] Reprogramming of the subconscious mind.
[00:12:10] End suffering from health issues with breathwork.
[00:13:54] Breathwork for altered states of mind.
[00:17:52] Activating a psychedelic experience with breathwork.
[00:22:41] How does breathwork boost performance?
[00:26:22] Can Soma breathwork help with severe depression?
[00:28:58] Breath as the remote control of mind, body, and spirit.
[00:32:04] The surprising link between breath and heart rate.
[00:35:45] How Niraj found his soulmate through Mindvalley.
[00:38:36] Connecting love of music with breathwork.
[00:41:27] Why the breath-based lifestyle is the ultimate life hack. 

Memorable Quotes

"Your breath is like the remote control for your mind, body, and spirit—it gives us power, control over things we thought we had no control over. " – Niraj Naik

"The less you need to breathe—actually, the longer you live. The slower you age. Breathing makes us age, unfortunately. Everyone's watching this right now—I'm breathing, you're aging a little bit." – Niraj Naik

Where to Find Our Guest

Website: https://somabreath.com/ 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nirajnaikofficial/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/somabreath

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 

Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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Breathwork vs. Medicine: The Science Behind Niraj Naik’s Soma Breath | Ep65

Carl Case built billion-dollar companies before 31, but it all started with a college dinner tradition that no one saw coming: “Meat Sauce Mondays.” What turned these casual meals into gratitude gatherings that shaped Carl’s unique approach to connection and success? And how did those lessons help him create RapidTalk.ai, a platform revolutionizing customer interaction?

In this episode, Carl shares how combining gratitude with smart use of data can transform relationships and drive business growth. From helping Lavazza Coffee achieve explosive results to creating a culture of kindness in his work, he reveals strategies you can use to make a bigger impact.

Curious how a simple mindset shift can change your business and life? Carl’s insights might just be the key you’re looking for.

Key Timestamps
[00:00] Introduction.
[00:01:37] A gratitude dinner that changed everything.
[00:03:54] How kindness builds stronger communities.
[00:10:56] The story behind a billion-dollar software exit.
[00:12:50] How does gratitude fuel entrepreneurial success?
[00:19:06] The surprising way Carl prepared to launch.
[00:19:39] How can you collect customer data without being pushy?
[00:22:47] The secret to better customer communication.
[00:29:03] Can kids learn entrepreneurship?
[00:30:27] What every new entrepreneur needs to know.
[00:34:02] Data strategies that keep customers coming back.

Memorable Quotes

"Massive action—it's the only way we get stuff done." — Carl Case

"From today on, collect cell phone numbers—they're the most valuable data point that you
can get." — Carl Case

Where to Find Our Guest
Website: http://referrizer.com/ & https://rapidtalk.ai/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-case-a7b33b55/

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the
links below: 
Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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How Carl Case Built Billion-Dollar Companies Before Turning 31 | Ep66

Marco Perego-Saldaña’s life reads like a movie script—professional footballer in Italy turned visionary artist and filmmaker in the U.S. He opens up about how art became his way of healing and his mission to connect humanity.

In this conversation, Marco shares how he uses tools like visualization and intuition to fuel his creativity and talks about working with Martin Scorsese on his film, The Absence of Eden. He also reflects on themes of freedom, belonging, and the powerful role of community in both art
and life.

You’ll hear personal stories about his family life with Zoe Saldana and how their shared experiences inspire his work. If you’re curious about blending creativity with self-discovery, this is a must-listen.

Key Timestamps
[00:00] Introduction.
[00:07:05] Utilizing your intuition to guide you.
[00:10:25] Creativity as emotional release.
[00:12:41] What makes art such a powerful tool for healing?
[00:18:03] Finding freedom and happiness in belongingness
[00:20:27] What does freedom really mean?
[00:26:34] How can visualization turn dreams into reality?
[00:34:19] What do brainwaves reveal about peak creativity?
[00:39:24] Personal growth through creativity.
[00:41:18] Achieving healing through non-conventional methods.
[00:44:00] A chance meeting with impact.
[00:47:24] The power of knowing and understanding who you are deep down.
[00:50:45] Boldness in bringing up the question of humanity.

Memorable Quotes

"I believe we have an energy inside us, and this energy is your truth. If you connect with
this energy, anything can happen." — Marco Perego-Saldaña

"You can never kill the beast, but what you can do, you can domesticate it and know it's
there." — Marco Perego-Saldaña

Where to Find Our Guest
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pirateyadimar/

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the
links below: 
Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

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Marco Saldana: How He Manifested a Scorsese Film | Ep67

What if everything you thought about empowerment was backwards? Dr. Amanda Hanson, renowned psychologist, speaker, and author, flips the script on empowerment and reveals why true power starts within. Known as The Midlife Muse, Amanda is a global advocate for women redefining their lives beyond societal expectations.

In this episode, Dr. Amanda shares how sensuality is the secret to unlocking inner strength and why the need for validation holds so many of us back. We also talk about breaking generational patterns, navigating triggers like jealousy, and raising confident daughters in a world designed to shrink women.

This conversation is raw, real, and packed with takeaways to help you reclaim your power and rewrite the rules. Tune in for a fresh perspective on stepping into your full potential.

Key Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction.
[00:04:30] How is sensuality a source of power?
[00:06:58] External vs. internal empowerment.
[00:09:51] Childhood reveals your most authentic self.
[00:13:42] How can celebrating women’s authenticity create change?
[00:16:41] Why are women triggered by other women’s successes?
[00:19:49] Authentic beauty is sourced from within.
[00:22:10] How come men don’t talk about empowerment?
[00:24:48] Does empowering women also empower men?
[00:25:37] Connecting with your center through a sensuality practice.
[00:30:13] What shapes mother-daughter relationship dynamics?
[00:36:59] How does body image impact women’s empowerment?

Memorable Quotes

"Sensuality is the superhighway to power. And so, if we are so disconnected from our
sensuality because it's been shamed out of us, I can assure you, you won't be
able to connect to your deepest roots of power." — Dr. Amanda Hanson 

"I want to have a culture of women who learns how to not feel threatened by another
woman's power." — Dr. Amanda Hanson 

Where to Find Our Guest

Website: https://www.amandahanson.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/midlife.muse/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/midlife.muse

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the
links below: 
Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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The Modern Woman's Guide to Aging with Power | Ep68

Most people think of real estate as just buildings and investments—but what if your home could actually improve your well-being? Alex Zagrebelny, Founder of R. Evolution Group, has spent over 25 years blending ancient wisdom with cutting-edge design to create spaces that promote happiness, balance, and longevity. 

In this conversation, Alex breaks down how the Eywa Movement is redefining luxury real estate, using principles like Vastu and biophilic design to harmonize energy and enhance daily life. He also shares simple ways you can improve your own space—whether it’s reducing toxins, choosing better materials, or shifting the energy in your home.

This episode isn’t just for real estate enthusiasts—it’s for anyone who wants to feel better in the space they live in. Tune in to learn how your home can do more than house you—it can heal you.

Key Timestamps
[00:00:00] Introduction.
[00:02:21] The hidden energy of your home.
[00:07:23] Ancient wisdom meets modern design.
[00:10:04] Can your home attract positive energy?
[00:15:09] Conscious living in real estate.
[00:19:26] The power of optimizing water.
[00:20:45] Developers hold the key to building or destroying life.

Memorable Quotes
"Eywa is a movement because it's changed the meaning of real estate. Because it's not real estate anymore, it's a tool in your life." — Alex Zagrebelny

"We need to respect the knowledge of our ancestors." — Alex Zagrebelny

Where to Find Our Guest
Website: https://byrevolution.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/by.revolution/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-zagrebelny-306a81164/

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 
Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

﻿Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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Ancient Secrets to a Happy, Healthy Home | Ep69

Ever feel like your brain is running on low battery—foggy, overworked, and just not keeping up?Dr. Umair Qureshi knows exactly why that happens and what you can do about it. As a top physician in brain and performance medicine, he’s worked with top athletes and professionals to boost mental clarity, energy, and focus.

We’re talking about how overthinking drains you, how oxygen therapy can actually upgrade your brain, and why small tweaks to your routine can make a huge difference. Plus, Dr. Umair shares what most people get wrong about performance and how to fix it.

If you’re ready to feel sharper, think clearer, and perform at your best, you don’t want to miss this. Tune in to learn how better brain health can transform the way you work, train, and live.

Key Timestamps

[00:00:00] Introduction
[00:01:25] What ‘performance’ really means
[00:03:44] How brain clarity helps improve performance
[00:05:02] The brain-boosting power of oxygen.
[00:10:00] Productivity vs. performance—what’s the real difference?
[00:12:26] Overthinking is draining you—here’s why.
[00:16:00] Sleep, energy, and peak performance.

Memorable Quotes

"Health for me is a definition, no longer just an absence of disease. It's an absence of disease with maximal cognitive functionality, mental acuity, physical performance, and ultimately nutritional optimization." — Dr. Umair Qureshi

"A difference of a millisecond here or there is going to be the difference between winning and losing. Any small change that we can influence to a degree will result in better outcome." — Dr. Umair Qureshi

Where to Find Our Guest

Website: https://thebrainperformancecenter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umair-qureshi-a76a5236/

To stay connected and to learn more about Vishen and Mindvalley, click on the links below: 

Website: https://www.mindvalley.com/about
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mindvalley/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley

Become the best version of yourself with the world’s most effective transformation platform. Join Mindvalley Membership Today: https://start.mindvalley.com/membership

Produced by Evolved Podcasting: www.evolvedpodcasting.com
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Supercharge Your Brain & Body | Ep70

Can we want what we already have? This episode features the incredible Esther Perel, a best-selling author and psychotherapist who has gone to speak and consult for Fortune 500 companies on questioning core beliefs about marriage, love and sex. This talk delivered to our tribe, was recorded on Mindvalley’s stage at A-Fest, tackles one of the biggest struggles couples face in today’s modern romantic relationships. 
 Bonus: 
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