Episode 303 - What Are We Supposed to Say? - The Murder of Joey Carnot

In the summer of 2024, a woman retreats into isolation, filling notebooks with carefully written details and rehearsing every line until it feels unshakable. To anyone watching, it looks like preparation. Discipline. Control.

But what she is preparing for has nothing to do with school.

When police are called to a Wisconsin apartment late one humid night, the story they’re given seems simple enough. Yet as investigators begin to listen closely, timelines shift, memories fracture, and the same brief window of time splinters into conflicting versions of the truth.

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Research & Writing: Ryan Deininger

Editing: Aiden Wolf

Sources: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Days 1 - 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 4 | Kiss & Kill Murder Trial Samantha Krebs' Call With Police: 'Is He (Joey Carnot) Okay?' LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 5 LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 6 LIVE: WI v. Samantha Krebs, Day 7 Court Tv Trial Recap Outagamie County jury convicts Samantha Krebs Prosecution says Samantha Krebs' suicide story is 'full of holes' Samantha Krebs' defense claims boyfriend's injuries were self-inflicted Appleton police investigating suspicious death of man on North Park Drive Lane Appleton woman charged with homicide after boyfriend is stabbed Police refer homicide charge against Appleton woman Handwritten notes offer ‘play-by-play’ of boyfriend’s murder, police say Krebs pleads not guilty to killing her boyfriend $1 million bond set for woman Police: Woman killed boyfriend, kissed him and apologized before leaving Appleton woman charged with fatally stabbing boyfriend Woman 'kissed' dying boyfriend and begged friend to ' tell the police he stabbed himself' Criminal Complaint Joey Carnot Obituary