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Larry Hagner

The Dad Edge Podcast is a movement. It is a strong community of Fathers who all share a set of values.

Larry Hagner, founder of The Dad Edge, breaks down common challenges of fatherhood, making them easy to understand and overcome.  Tackling the world of Fatherhood can be a daunting task when we try to do it alone.

The mission of The Dad Edge Podcast is to help you become the best, strongest, and happiest version of yourself so that you can help guide your kids to the best version of themselves. Simple as that.  

Everything you need and all of our resources can be found at thedadedge.com/podcast

The Dad Edge Podcast

In this special episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined once again by my wife, Jessica Hagner, for another honest and heartfelt conversation about marriage, parenting, and family life. Together, we pull back the curtain on how we’ve learned to operate as a team, resolve conflict with respect, and create a family culture where our kids feel seen, loved, and guided.
 
 
 
We discuss the importance of friendship in marriage, the challenges of raising four boys with different personalities, and how grace and intentionality shape our home. Jessica also shares her perspective on what keeps our relationship strong after more than two decades together, even when life gets messy. If you’re looking for practical tools and encouragement for your marriage and parenting, this episode delivers a mix of wisdom, laughter, and real-life stories.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Why conversations like this matter for marriage and parenting
 
[2:10] - Building a marriage on respect and friendship
 
[5:18] - How we handle conflict without tearing each other down
 
[9:02] - Parenting four boys with different needs and personalities
 
[13:37] - Why consistency matters in discipline and guidance
 
[17:25] - The role of grace in creating a safe family environment
 
[21:48] - Keeping our marriage strong in the middle of chaos
 
[26:13] - Making intentional time for connection as a couple
 
[30:05] - How we show each child that they are seen and valued
 
[34:40] - Teaching respect by modeling it in our marriage
 
[39:12] - The balance between structure and flexibility in parenting
 
[43:55] - Why shared values anchor our family through challenges
 
[48:21] - Leading our family spiritually and emotionally
 
[52:18] - How laughter and friendship keep us connected
 
[56:44] - Final reflections on creating a family rooted in love and respect
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Respect Is the Glue in Marriage
 
Every successful partnership is built on mutual respect. It sets the tone for conflict resolution, parenting, and the overall health of the relationship.
 
2. Conflict Doesn’t Have to Divide
 
Handled well, disagreements can actually strengthen connection. The goal isn’t to win—it’s to work together with empathy and understanding.
 
3. Parent as a United Team
 
Kids feel safest when parents operate from the same playbook. Presenting a united front creates stability and clarity at home.
 
4. Grace Creates Space for Growth
 
Rules matter, but grace ensures your home is a safe place to learn, fail, and try again. It’s what makes discipline effective without resentment.
 
5. Friendship Keeps Love Alive
 
Romance ebbs and flows, but friendship sustains the relationship. Laughter, fun, and shared companionship are what carry you through every season.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
 
 
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Download the 25 Questions to Spark Connection With Your Partner: https://www.thedadedge.com/25questions
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The Keys to a Thriving Marriage Built with Respect, Grace, & Teamwork ft. Jessica Hagner

In this special father-son episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I sit down with my son, Ethan, to continue our August series on raising boys into strong, capable men. Together, we dive into the real challenges young men face today and the lessons that shape character, responsibility, and confidence.
 
 
 
Ethan opens up about what he’s learning through work, relationships, and personal growth, while I share insights on how fathers can guide without controlling. We discuss resilience, accountability, and the importance of choosing the right path—even when it’s difficult. This conversation is raw, relatable, and packed with wisdom for both dads and sons who want to grow together.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Welcome to our August father-son series
 
[2:10] - Ethan’s reflections on independence and early adulthood
 
[5:25] - Why accountability is the key to long-term success
 
[8:41] - Lessons from failure and how to bounce back stronger
 
[12:03] - How to balance freedom with responsibility
 
[15:37] - Why building grit matters more than chasing comfort
 
[19:10] - Navigating friendships and the power of influence
 
[23:46] - What intentional living looks like as a young man
 
[28:04] - Handling setbacks without losing confidence
 
[32:19] - Why fathers need to lead by example, not just advice
 
[36:55] - The role of gratitude in keeping perspective
 
[40:28] - Ethan’s biggest lessons so far in work and life
 
[44:12] - Final reflections on manhood, growth, and legacy
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Accountability Creates Growth
 
The willingness to own your choices and mistakes is what separates boys from men—it’s the foundation of maturity.
 
2. Resilience Is Built Through Struggle
 
Failure is not the end but the classroom. Every setback is an opportunity to learn grit and perseverance.
 
3. Freedom Without Responsibility Leads to Chaos
 
True independence isn’t doing whatever you want—it’s learning to carry the weight of your decisions.
 
4. Influence Shapes Identity
 
The people you surround yourself with will either pull you forward or drag you down. Choose wisely.
 
5. Gratitude Keeps You Grounded
 
No matter how tough life gets, practicing gratitude helps you stay centered, focused, and motivated to keep moving forward.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Purposeful Parenting to Build Strong, Responsible Young Men

In this powerful episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I sit down with Rock Thomas—entrepreneur, bestselling author, and founder of the I Am Movement—to explore what it truly means to break free from limiting beliefs and take ownership of your life. Rock shares his journey from humble beginnings on a farm to building multiple successful businesses, and he unpacks the mindset shifts that helped him rise above struggle and design a life of purpose.
 
 
 
We dive into how the words you speak shape your identity, the importance of surrounding yourself with the right influences, and why most men never reach their full potential. Rock also shares practical strategies for fathers to model growth, resilience, and confidence for their children. If you’ve ever felt stuck, defined by your past, or unsure of your next step, this conversation will challenge you to rewrite your story and live with intention.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Welcome and introduction to Rock Thomas and the I Am Movement
 
[3:08] - Growing up on a farm and the lessons of early hardship
 
[7:15] - How childhood experiences shaped Rock’s drive and identity
 
[10:42] - Breaking free from the labels others put on you
 
[14:20] - Why the words you use about yourself matter
 
[18:55] - The turning point that shifted Rock’s life trajectory
 
[23:11] - The mentors who changed his mindset and path
 
[27:36] - Building wealth without losing yourself in the process
 
[31:48] - Why environment and community shape who you become
 
[36:29] - The importance of modeling resilience for your kids
 
[41:03] - Rock’s strategies for reframing failure into fuel
 
[45:17] - How to stop living by default and start living by design
 
[50:42] - Parenting lessons: teaching kids ownership and responsibility
 
[54:33] - Daily rituals and practices that keep Rock grounded
 
[59:15] - The power of declaring “I Am” statements for identity
 
[1:03:22] - Final reflections on building a life of purpose and growth
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Your Words Shape Your World
 
The labels and stories you tell yourself directly influence your identity. Shifting your “I am” statements can transform your confidence, actions, and results.
 
2. Mentorship Accelerates Growth
 
The right mentors can help you break through limitations and see possibilities you couldn’t on your own. Who you learn from shapes who you become.
 
3. Environment Drives Identity
 
The people you surround yourself with will either elevate you or keep you stuck. Community matters as much as personal discipline.
 
4. Failure Is Feedback
 
Instead of avoiding mistakes, Rock reframes failure as fuel for growth. Every setback is a stepping stone to greater resilience and wisdom.
 
5. Parenting Is About Modeling
 
Your children are watching how you live, not just what you say. Modeling ownership, resilience, and intentional living teaches them how to thrive.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
 
 
• Rock Thomas Website: https://rockthomas.com
 
• Learn About the I Am Movement: https://rockthomas.com/iam-movement
 
• thedadedge.com/legendarybook
 
• Dad Edge Podcast Website: https://www.thedadedge.com
 
• Join The Alliance: https://www.thedadedge.com/alliance
 
• Listen to More Episodes: https://www.thedadedge.com/podcast
 
 
 
 
 
If this episode inspired you to take ownership of your story, please rate, follow, review, and share the podcast. Let’s continue building a generation of men who live by design, not default.

How to Redesign Your Life Intentionally with Identity, Mindset, and Ownership ft. Rock Thomas

In this heartfelt episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined once again by my wife, Jessica Hagner, to share an inside look at how we approach marriage, parenting, and family life as a team. From building respect and handling conflict to raising four boys with shared values, this conversation is packed with personal stories, laughter, and real-life strategies for staying connected through all of life’s ups and downs.
 
 
 
We talk about how we’ve learned to operate in parenting, the role of respect in every interaction, and the tools that help us resolve conflict without damaging trust. Jessica opens up about her perspective as a wife and mother, and together, we discuss the importance of modeling the behavior we want to see in our kids. Whether you’re in the early years of marriage or decades in, this episode offers encouragement and actionable ways to strengthen your family relationships.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Welcome and why this conversation with Jessica matters
 
[2:12] - The role of mutual respect in keeping a marriage strong
 
[5:07] - How we handle conflict and keep trust intact
 
[9:15] - Parenting as a united front and setting shared expectations
 
[13:28] - Balancing structure and flexibility with four boys
 
[16:44] - Teaching respect by modeling it in our marriage
 
[20:15] - How we navigate disagreements in front of our kids
 
[23:51] - Creating space for connection in a busy household
 
[27:06] - The importance of making each child feel seen and valued
 
[30:42] - Our approach to discipline without creating resentment
 
[34:25] - How parenting styles evolve as kids grow
 
[38:18] - Keeping romance alive while raising a family
 
[42:56] - The value of open, honest communication in marriage
 
[46:39] - Leading our family spiritually and emotionally
 
[50:20] - Why grace matters as much as structure in parenting
 
[54:14] - Final reflections on building a family rooted in respect and love
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Respect Is the Foundation
 
Every strong marriage and family dynamic begins with mutual respect—how we speak to each other, handle disagreements, and set the tone for our household.
 
2. Conflict Can Strengthen Connection
 
When handled with honesty and empathy, disagreements can build trust instead of breaking it. It’s not about avoiding conflict—it’s about navigating it well.
 
3. Parent as a Team
 
Kids thrive when they see their parents united. Operating from the same playbook creates stability and prevents division in the home.
 
4. Model the Behavior You Want to See
 
Children learn more from what you do than what you say. By demonstrating respect, patience, and grace, we set the example for how they’ll treat others.
 
5. Grace Balances Structure
 
Rules and boundaries are essential, but grace creates a safe and loving environment where kids can learn from their mistakes without fear.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
 
 
• Download the 25 Questions to Spark Connection With Your Partner: https://www.thedadedge.com/25questions
 
• Dad Edge Podcast Website: https://www.thedadedge.com
 
• Join The Alliance: https://www.thedadedge.com/alliance
 
• Listen to More Episodes: https://www.thedadedge.com/podcast
 
• Tools & Resources: https://www.thedadedge.com/tools
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
If this episode encouraged you or gave you new insight into your marriage or parenting, please rate, follow, review, and share the podcast. Together, we’re building stronger families and stronger futures.

How We Stay Close When Life Gets Loud ft. Jessica Hagner

In this episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined once again by my son, Ethan, for another candid father-son conversation on navigating life, manhood, and building the skills that last a lifetime. As part of our August series on helping boys transition into strong, capable men, we dig into Ethan’s experiences in work, relationships, and personal growth—and the lessons that come with them.
 
 
 
We talk about learning the value of hard work, handling failure without losing momentum, and why being intentional with your time can change everything. Ethan also opens up about balancing independence with staying connected to family, how to choose the right influences, and the importance of staying grounded in who you are—especially when life throws curveballs. Whether you’re raising a son or trying to grow as a man yourself, this conversation is filled with practical wisdom, personal stories, and plenty of laughs along the way.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Welcome and context for our August series on raising boys into men
 
[2:15] - Ethan’s reflections on his first real work experiences
 
[5:04] - Learning self-reliance through challenges and problem-solving
 
[8:12] - The importance of staying humble and teachable
 
[11:30] - How to take responsibility without losing confidence
 
[15:18] - Building resilience after setbacks and mistakes
 
[18:40] - Choosing influences and friends that push you forward
 
[21:53] - Balancing independence with strong family connection
 
[25:17] - What it means to be intentional with your time and energy
 
[28:34] - Handling the pressure to perform in work and life
 
[32:56] - Using failures as fuel for growth and self-improvement
 
[36:11] - The role of discipline in achieving long-term goals
 
[40:00] - How gratitude changes your outlook and relationships
 
[43:28] - Ethan’s advice for young men starting their journey to adulthood
 
[46:02] - Lessons learned from taking risks and stepping into uncomfortable situations
 
[49:15] - Why adaptability is essential in both work and relationships
 
[52:40] - The impact of mentorship and learning from older, wiser voices
 
[56:22] - Strategies for keeping your mindset strong during setbacks
 
[1:00:05] - How Ethan applies life lessons from sports into everyday decisions
 
[1:03:30] - The importance of giving back and serving others as a sign of maturity
 
[1:06:54] - Final reflections on becoming the kind of man you’d be proud to follow
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Hard Work Builds Character
 
Real growth comes when you embrace responsibility, push through discomfort, and give your best—whether you’re excited about the task or not.
 
 
 
2. Stay Teachable
 
No matter how much you know, there’s always something to learn. A teachable spirit keeps you adaptable and ready for opportunity.
 
 
 
3. Choose Your Circle Wisely
 
The people you surround yourself with will either pull you forward or drag you down. Select influences who challenge and inspire you.
 
 
 
4. Resilience Comes From Recovery
 
Everyone fails—but it’s how quickly you get back up and how much you learn from it that determines your strength.
 
 
 
5. Intentional Living Creates Direction
 
Without a plan, you drift. Being deliberate with your time, energy, and commitments gives you control over the man you’re becoming.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
 
 
 • thedadedge.com/presence
 https://1stphorm.com/products/collagen-with-dermaval/?a_aid=dadedge • DB OVERDRIVE: 
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Preparing Your Son for Adulthood With Grit, Gratitude, and Growth

In this high-energy episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I sit down with Brady Smith—actor, author, devoted husband to Tiffani Thiessen, and proud dad—to talk about fatherhood, family, and living with intention. From the red carpet to bedtime stories, Brady shares how he balances career, creativity, and parenting while staying grounded in what matters most.
 
 
 
We dive into marriage lessons, the art of being fully present with your kids, and the importance of modeling emotional resilience. Brady opens up about how he and Tiffani navigate life as a team, why they value quality time over quantity, and the ways they foster creativity and confidence in their children. Whether you’re raising toddlers or teens, this episode is a refreshing reminder that being a great dad isn’t about perfection—it’s about presence, purpose, and love.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Introducing Brady Smith: actor, author, husband, and dad
 
[2:15] - From Hollywood to home life—how Brady keeps family first
 
[5:08] - Building a marriage rooted in respect and teamwork
 
[8:14] - The importance of slowing down and being present
 
[11:42] - Teaching kids creativity and self-confidence through action
 
[14:27] - How Brady and Tiffani navigate busy schedules as parents
 
[17:33] - Why emotional resilience is key to raising grounded kids
 
[20:45] - Stories that shape family values and traditions
 
[24:19] - Prioritizing connection over constant activity
 
[28:56] - Balancing career ambitions with fatherhood responsibilities
 
[32:11] - Brady’s advice for dads who want to lead with intention
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Presence Beats Perfection
 
Your kids don’t need a flawless dad—they need one who shows up, listens, and engages. Consistent presence has a far greater impact than striving for impossible standards.
 
2. Marriage Thrives on Teamwork
 
Brady and Tiffani approach their relationship like a true partnership—dividing responsibilities, supporting each other’s goals, and staying aligned on family values.
 
3. Creativity Builds Confidence
 
Encouraging kids to dream, create, and try new things builds resilience and self-belief that will serve them for life.
 
4. Emotional Resilience Is a Lifelong Gift
 
Helping your kids manage disappointment, frustration, and change prepares them to thrive in an unpredictable world.
 
5. Connection Is the Goal
 
From family dinners to shared hobbies, meaningful connection comes from intentional moments, not just shared space.
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
 
 
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Brady Smith Website: https://www.bradysmith.com
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Parenting With Intention to Raise Confident, Respectful, and Resilient Kids ft. Brady Smith

In this deeply personal episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined by my incredible wife, Jessica Hagner, for a raw, real, and honest conversation about what 22 years of marriage has truly looked like behind the scenes. From our awkward beginnings in college to raising four boys and building a life together, this is a rare inside look into the foundation of our relationship—what’s worked, what hasn’t, and how we’ve grown together through every season.
 
 
 
We unpack everything from emotional disconnect and healing past wounds to the power of intentional communication, spiritual alignment, and shared leadership at home. Jessica shares her heart and wisdom on how we create emotional safety in our marriage, why friendship is key to our connection, and how we’ve come back from disconnection stronger every time. Whether you’re in year one or year twenty of your relationship, this episode offers powerful insight into the daily work of lasting love.
 
 
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Why this episode with Jessica is one of the most special yet
 
[1:28] - How we first met—and the infamous “first kiss” moment
 
[4:12] - Celebrating 22 years: early struggles and breakthrough moments
 
[8:05] - Navigating emotional disconnection and how we’ve learned to reconnect
 
[11:55] - Jessica’s approach to giving feedback without criticism
 
[15:30] - The role of grace and safety in helping me grow as a husband
 
[18:43] - Getting on the same page spiritually and emotionally
 
[21:10] - Why we never let distance linger too long in our relationship
 
[24:02] - The value of therapy, reflection, and personal healing
 
[28:09] - Parenting four boys with teamwork, honesty, and prayer
 
[32:18] - How our friendship fuels every other aspect of our marriage
 
[36:42] - Leading by example as partners, parents, and individuals
 
[39:55] - Why we believe your past doesn’t define your potential
 
[42:20] - The power of intentional connection—even when life is messy
 
 
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Lasting Marriages Are Built on Daily Intentions
 
It’s not grand gestures that sustain a relationship—it’s the daily choice to show up, stay connected, and grow together, even when things feel hard or messy.
 
2. Grace Is the Bridge Between Conflict and Connection
 
Jessica’s ability to approach tough conversations with empathy and grace allowed us to repair emotional rifts without blame or shame. That kind of safe space creates real transformation.
 
3. Emotional Safety Is a Foundation for Growth
 
We can’t become better spouses or parents unless we feel secure to be vulnerable. Emotional safety means knowing you can be honest without fear of judgment or rejection.
 
4. Friendship Fuels Long-Term Love
 
Romantic sparks matter—but friendship sustains. Laughing, enjoying time together, and being each other’s best friend is what carries the relationship through every season.
 
5. Spiritual Alignment Strengthens the Bond
 
When we committed to growing together spiritually, we experienced deeper intimacy and peace. Shared faith, prayer, and purpose have anchored us through life’s storms.
 
 
 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES
 
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Download the 25 Questions to Spark Connection With Your Partner: https://www.thedadedge.com/25questions
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Dad Edge Podcast Website: https://www.thedadedge.com
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Join The Alliance: https://www.thedadedge.com/alliance
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Listen to More Episodes: https://www.thedadedge.com/podcast
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Tools & Resources: https://www.thedadedge.com/tools
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Recommended Episode: How to Lead Your Marriage with Intention
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Building Respect, Navigating Conflict, and Parenting as a Team After 22 Years of Marriage ft. Jessica Hagner

In this special episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined once again by my son Ethan for another honest and often hilarious father-son conversation. This week, we’re kicking off our August series focused on helping young men grow into adulthood with integrity, resilience, and intention. We unpack what it really means to become a man in today’s world and why so many guys stay stuck in a boyhood mindset well into their 40s and beyond.
 
Ethan shares firsthand experiences from his first full-time job, launching a car detailing business in high school, and learning life skills that go far beyond the classroom. We talk about emotional regulation, grit, finding meaningful work, and how to support your kids without micromanaging their growth. Whether you’re raising sons or just want insight into building a better father-child bond, this episode is packed with perspective, wisdom, and a few laughs.
 

 
 TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[0:00] - Welcome to the podcast and the mission behind the Dad Edge
 
[1:30] - The origin and theme of our father-son conversations
 
[3:06] - Why August is all about helping boys become men
 
[5:00] - The First Phorm 8-week challenge and tools to get started
 
[7:01] - The moment I realized no one was coming to save me
 
[8:22] - Ethan’s experience at his first real job in an auto shop
 
[11:30] - Learning to grow up through the CAPS entrepreneurship program
 
[13:42] - How Ethan started and ran a successful car detailing business
 
[17:07] - Signs a boy is becoming a man: long-term thinking, embracing discomfort
 
[20:37] - The danger of staying in a soul-sucking job and the power of choice
 
[26:30] - Stories of perseverance from Steve Jobs, Colonel Sanders, and J.K. Rowling
 
[30:21] - Ethan’s reflections on helping others break limiting beliefs
 
[35:45] - Why emotional regulation is key to maturing into manhood
 
[39:00] - Learning to pause, respond, and reflect through challenging days
 
[43:27] - How fathers can support sons without overstepping
 
[47:03] - Using better questions to develop critical thinking and self-direction
 

 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS:
 
1. Becoming a Man Requires Intentional Growth
 
 The shift from boyhood to manhood doesn’t happen automatically; it’s shaped by life experiences, learning responsibility, and the conscious decision to grow up. No one is coming to save you, and it’s up to you to take ownership.
 

 
2. Let Sons Struggle, But Be Their Safe Place
 
 Growth often happens in the discomfort. As dads, it’s tempting to step in and fix things. But real development comes when we let our kids wrestle with problems while knowing they have a safe place to process and recover.
 

 
3. Embrace and Teach Emotional Regulation
 
 Maturity is marked by how well we manage our emotions. Learning to pause, breathe, and choose a thoughtful response instead of reacting impulsively is a life skill every young man needs to master.
 

 
4. Work Experience Teaches More Than Just Skills
 
 From oil changes to running a business, Ethan’s journey proves that real-world jobs and responsibilities develop grit, confidence, and a clearer sense of what one wants and doesn’t want in life.
 

 
5. Success Is Measured by Fulfillment, Not Fortune
 
 We often think success means more money, bigger homes, or flashier titles. But as we explore in this episode, true success is found in happiness, strong relationships, and doing work that brings purpose, not just a paycheck.
 

 
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How to Lead Your Son Into Manhood & Build A Strong Relationships That Lasts

Would you die for your kids? Most dads would. But would you live for them? In this powerful episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I sit down with Andrew Jax—father of three, Australian natural bodybuilding champion, and founder of the “Ditch the Dad Fat” program. Known as the “6 Pack Dad,” Andrew shares how optimizing your health isn’t just about looking good—it’s about leading with strength, energy, and integrity at home.
 
We explore the silent leadership of fatherhood, why most men’s health declines after marriage, and how to reverse that trend with small, sustainable changes. Andrew breaks down the real cost of saying “I don’t have time,” the importance of emotional and physical energy for our families, and how you can enjoy your pizza and beer—and still lose the dad bod. Whether you’re already committed to health or just thinking about getting back in the game, this episode will fire you up and equip you with strategies you can use today.
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY:
 
[0:00] - Would you die for your kids? What about live for them?
 
[2:10] - Introducing Andrew Jax: father, champion bodybuilder, and coach
 
[3:17] - Why health is a leadership issue, not just a vanity project
 
[5:00] - The “Dad decline”: why men fall apart after marriage
 
[8:22] - Guilt, shame, and why self-care isn’t selfish
 
[13:06] - The myth of “no time” and how to make fitness fit your life
 
[17:07] - Why starting small matters—and why most men wait for a crisis
 
[21:22] - Andrew’s “Habit Sustainability Formula” explained
 
[25:17] - Daily accountability: the #1 key to long-term success
 
[28:10] - How to stay lean without relying on exercise
 
[31:08] - Why sleep and stress management are crucial to fat loss
 
[34:03] - Finding balance: eating clean without giving up your life
 
[37:04] - Prioritizing protein, carbs, fats, and smart supplementation
 
[43:08] - How Andrew leads his family spiritually, emotionally, and physically
 
[46:10] - Where to connect and get a free copy of Andrew’s book

 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
1. Health Is a Legacy Issue
 
 Your kids aren’t just watching—they’re modeling. Leading with health means passing on a generational inheritance of physical, emotional, and mental well-being. They’ll follow your example more than your advice.
 

 
2. Self-Care Is Not Selfish
 
 Skipping your workout may feel noble in the moment, but long-term neglect robs your family of your energy, presence, and vitality. When you take care of yourself, you increase your capacity to take care of others.
 

 
3. You Don’t Need Hours or Perfection
 
 You don’t need five workouts a week or chicken and broccoli forever. Andrew’s clients are busy dads and business owners who see results with three efficient sessions per week and a flexible, sustainable eating plan.
 

 
4. Daily Accountability Changes Everything
 
 Forget once-a-week check-ins. Andrew’s clients get results through daily guidance and support. If you want real change, don’t go it alone—build a system that keeps you on track every single day.
 

 
5. Lead at Home Like You Lead at Work
 
 Andrew’s success isn’t just in coaching—it’s in how he shows up as a husband and father. He shares how servant leadership, spiritual alignment, and presence fuel his connection with his wife and kids every day.
 

 
 
 
LINKS & RESOURCES:
 
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 • Free training on How Busy Dads Are Losing 10-35lbs & Reclaiming Their Health, Energy & Confidence In 6 Weeks Without Exercise or Extreme Diets: ditchthedadfat.com
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How Dads Can Boost Energy, Lose Fat, and Lead Strong at Home ft. Andrew Jax

In this deeply personal and refreshingly raw episode of the Dad Edge Podcast, I’m joined by my incredible wife, Jessica Hagner, for a long-overdue conversation that many of you have been asking for. After years of encouragement (and a little nudging), Jessica stepped up to the mic to help me share the real, behind-the-scenes story of our 22-year marriage.
 
We go back to the early days of college, reliving the awkwardness of our first kiss and my embarrassing (but strategic) attempt to get her on a student committee just to spend time with her. But we don’t just stay in the past. We dive deep into the challenges of our early marriage, the struggles I had showing up as a husband and father, and how Jessica’s unwavering grace, direct but loving communication, and deep emotional strength helped pull us through. From parenting four boys to rediscovering connection after disconnection, we explore how we’ve stayed aligned, what we’ve learned, and why our friendship is the real heartbeat of our relationship.
 
Whether you’re a husband, wife, parent, or someone navigating the messy middle of a relationship, this episode will speak to your heart and give you practical hope that real love is always within reach, if you’re willing to work for it.
 
 
 
TIMELINE SUMMARY
 
[1:34] - Jessica joins the podcast for the first time—and how long it took to convince her
 
[4:35] - The (disastrous) first kiss story from both our perspectives
 
[10:22] - My clever scheme to get Jessica on the student committee
 
[13:36] - Celebrating 22 years: reflections on young love and early marriage
 
[16:05] - My struggles early on as a husband and father
 
[20:48] - Jessica’s thoughtful, respectful way of expressing hard truths
 
[26:02] - A rough week of disconnection—and why we refuse to let it linger
 
[29:30] - How we sense and address emotional distance before it becomes dangerous
 
[35:31] - Replacing blame with grace: the power of constructive feedback
 
[38:01] - Jessica’s journey through self-image and how we supported each other
 
[40:35] - Our secret weapon: friendship as the foundation
 
[44:12] - Creating emotional safety in a marriage
 
[46:40] - Reflections on sobriety and emotional consistency
 
[47:17] - The role of counseling and shared tools in sustaining growth
 
[50:21] - That time we tried swing dancing—and what it taught us about trying new things
 
 
 
5 KEY TAKEAWAYS
 
 
 
1. Marriage Is Built, Not Found
 
 Strong relationships don’t happen by accident—they’re intentionally created through effort, vulnerability, and consistent choices. Love is less about fate and more about foundation, and we’ve learned that every season of growth requires patience and partnership.
 

 
2. Grace Changes Everything
 
 Jessica’s ability to express concerns with love instead of criticism shaped how I received them—and how I grew. Her grace didn’t minimize the message; it softened the delivery so that it could be heard. When grace leads, growth follows.
 

 
3. Friendship Is the Foundation
 
 Beyond intimacy and partnership lies a deep friendship. We laugh, challenge, and enjoy one another—whether we’re hitting the gym or sitting in silence. That comfort and camaraderie anchor us in hard times and elevate the everyday.
 

 
4. Disconnection Is a Signal, Not a Sentence
 
 We all drift sometimes—but we’ve trained ourselves not to tolerate that drift for long. Disconnection is simply a call to reconnect. We address it, own it, and rebuild before it becomes a pattern.
 

 
5. Shared Growth Sustains Love
 
 What keeps us aligned is our shared commitment to grow—individually and as a couple. From therapy to new hobbies, we make space for evolution. That growth keeps the relationship fresh, resilient, and deeply fulfilling.
 

 
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Lessons Learned From 22 Years of Marriage and Raising Four Boys ft. Jessica Hagner

Ilan Muallem is an actor, director, martial artist, and entrepreneur. Some of his most well known roles are Wesley from “The Walking Dead” and Noah from “The Big Short.” Muallem is also a free speech advocate and political activist who actively supports the military and police. Muallem is currently in a 13 year relationship and is a mentor to his girlfriend’s three children. 
 
During Muallem’s childhood, he recalls his father being hard but empathetic towards his horrendous behavior. When Ilan was diagnosed with an auto-immune disease, he notes how his father was right by his side, caring for him. Ilan recalls how it’s defining moments like those that lead to your identity.
 
As a father, you realize that 90% of the battle is just being there for your kids. Muallem’s father was there for him during the difficult years and it made Ilan realize that although his father wasn’t perfect, he always showed up. According to Muallem, the definition of success means always showing up and being consistent, no matter what. Even if you’re not a perfect parent, you can still be successful and leave a legacy for your children by just being there for them. 
 
For the show notes and exclusive links mentioned in this episode go to https://gooddadproject.com/finding-identity.
 
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Finding Your Identity Through Defining Moments with Ilan Muallem

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