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Larry Hagner

The Dad Edge Podcast is a movement. It is a strong community of Fathers who all share a set of values.

Larry Hagner, founder of The Dad Edge, breaks down common challenges of fatherhood, making them easy to understand and overcome.  Tackling the world of Fatherhood can be a daunting task when we try to do it alone.

The mission of The Dad Edge Podcast is to help you become the best, strongest, and happiest version of yourself so that you can help guide your kids to the best version of themselves. Simple as that.  

Everything you need and all of our resources can be found at thedadedge.com/podcast

The Dad Edge Podcast

In this episode, I sit down with Matthew McConaughey — Oscar-winning actor, author of the bestselling memoir Greenlights, and a man who thinks about fatherhood, legacy, and what it means to truly live with the same intensity he brings to everything else.
 
This is not a conversation about Hollywood. It's about what it means to be a man and a father who doesn't half-ass the most important things in his life.
 
Matthew opens up about his own father — a larger-than-life man who taught him three rules that shaped everything: don't say can't, don't hate, and don't lie. We get into the stories behind each of those lessons, the "don't half-ass it" moment when Matthew told his dad he wanted film school instead of law school, and what it takes for a father to recognize that his son has made up his mind — not asking permission, but declaring a direction.
 
We also talk about Camilla, taking his kids everywhere he goes on set, and why three older actors all told him the same thing: they chose work over family time and would do it differently if they could. Then there's the passage from Greenlights that stopped Larry mid-workout — about living your legacy now, and the idea that most of us don't fly too close to the sun. We don't fly nearly high enough. Our alarms go off too early.
 
This one is timeless.
 
 
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:02] Why this replay is one of the top ten episodes in Dad Edge history
 
[2:18] What Matthew hoped would come from this conversation: waking men up to what being a dad really means
 
[4:29] What brings Matthew joy: bringing people together and watching them build their own independent friendships
 
[6:31] The role most relative to who he is as a husband and father — and why his family has always come with him on every job
 
[8:52] Camilla's one condition before they started a family: "You go, we go"
 
[11:02] Three older actors all said the same thing: they chose work over family, and they regret it
 
[12:39] The 80% statistic: most of your one-on-one time with your kids is gone by the time they're 12
 
[14:00] Fatherhood is a verb — on screen time, saying no with love, and why the easy answer is almost always the wrong one
 
[18:33] The birds and bees talk from his father: a lesson about respect for women that stuck word for word
 
[20:34] Don't say can't — the lawnmower story and the lesson that there's always another way
 
[21:57] Don't hate — saying "I hate you" at his own birthday party, and what happened next
 
[22:28] Don't lie — the stolen pizza, four chances to tell the truth, and what Matthew actually remembers
 
[24:10] "Don't half-ass it" — the film school conversation and what it means when a father hears conviction in his son's voice
 
[28:04] His dad was alive for just five days into Matthew's first acting job — the first thing he committed to that wasn't a fad
 
[30:55] How Matthew pursues Camilla in the middle of kids, career, and constant demands on his time
 
[35:26] Why Matthew and Camilla go on dates every week — and what they tell the kids about why mom and dad go alone
 
[35:43] The passage from Greenlights that stopped Larry in the gym: "Live my legacy now"
 
[38:33] The inverted Icarus problem: most of us don't fly too close to the sun — our alarms go off way too early
 
[41:59] The science in the rearview mirror — how everything connects, even the things that looked like mistakes
 
[42:36] Ten years from now: what Matthew hopes to be celebrating with his family
 
 
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. Fatherhood is a verb, not a label. It's not about helping make the baby — the work starts after. Teaching, shepherding, saying no, explaining why — that is the job.
 2. The three rules Matthew's father gave him — don't say can't, don't hate, don't lie — are not just household rules. They are the weapons a man needs to negotiate the world.
 3. When your child comes to you convicted — not asking permission, but declaring a direction — your job as a father is to recognize that and say "don't half-ass it."
 4. Most of us don't fly too close to the sun. Our alarms go off too early. We put a ceiling on our own potential before we've even started to soar.
 5. Your marriage needs intentional pursuit — even in the busiest seasons of parenting. It doesn't just hold itself.
 
 
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Greenlights by Matthew McConaughey: 
https://a.co/d/017KxpPw • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1458): 
https://thedadedge.com/1458 
 
 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: stop waiting for the right moment to live your legacy — it's already happening right now.
 
Matthew McConaughey's father gave him three rules, one five-second pause, and a standard he's been carrying ever since. Don't say can't. Don't hate. Don't lie. Don't half-ass it.
 
The men whose kids will remember them the way Matthew remembers his dad are the ones who show up every day knowing that fatherhood is not a label you earn once. It's a verb you live out in a thousand small moments that add up to everything.
 
If this episode hit you where it needed to, share it with a father who needs the reminder.
 
Go out and live legendary.

The Alarms Holding Men Back From Their Greatest Life featuring Matthew McConaughey

In this episode, I sit down with Joe Gatto — comedian, founding member of Impractical Jokers, author, and one of the most genuinely funny and surprisingly deep guys I've ever had on this show.
 
Yes, we laugh. A lot. But what surprised me most about this conversation is how quickly it got real. Joe lost his dad to pancreatic cancer at 19 years old — and watching his father face death with grace, humor, and a smile on his face left an imprint on Joe that shaped everything: the man he became, the dad he is today, and even the comedy career that followed.
 
We get into marriage and how humor can be the glue that holds a couple together through a tumultuous season — but also how humor can become a way to avoid the conversations that actually need to happen. Joe is honest that the last couple of years have been tough, and he talks about learning to know when it's time to stop laughing and start talking.
 
And Joe's kids' book — Where Is Barry? — gets the full story: how his son Remo losing his stuffed animal one night turned into a beautifully illustrated book about calming down, thinking logically, and handling life's little chaos moments.
 
 
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Introducing Joe Gatto — Impractical Jokers, touring comedian, author, and a guy who's way more real than you'd expect
 
[4:23] Growing up in Staten Island: big Italian family, big backyard, and a nerdy kid who quizzed his dad with encyclopedia multiple choice tests
 
[5:40] How comedy shaped Joe's childhood — Home Improvement, Mel Brooks, Jim Carrey, and movie nights with dad
 
[8:10] The relationship with his dad — and losing him to pancreatic cancer at just 19 years old
 
[10:00] His dad's response to the diagnosis: "Get a fake ID, we're going to Vegas"
 
[11:02] What it was like to be in the ambulance when his father passed — and the smile on his face at the very end
 
[13:16] Larry's reflection: "You had more of a dad in 19 years than a lot of men have in a lifetime"
 
[14:20] How Joe's dad shaped the comedian, the father, and the man he is today
 
[15:02] Joe's new tour Let's Get Into It — tracing his journey from a geeky kid with no friends to who he is now
 
[16:23] The iconic memory: dad comes home in a full suit, kids are in the pool — and he just jumps in
 
[17:21] How Joe recreated that exact moment for his own kids without even planning it
 
[18:36] What Joe's kids would say about him if you asked them without him in the room
 
[19:37] His 9-year-old daughter who wants to be a DJ — and why Joe said yes without hesitation
 
[20:06] His 7-year-old son who asks questions like "why is the middle finger bad?" — and how Joe handled it
 
[24:08] The origin story of Impractical Jokers — day jobs, a bartender, a firefighter, and four friends doing comedy for fun
 
[33:24] The important line: humor can hold you together, but there's a time to stop laughing and start talking
 
[35:09] Where Is Barry? — the children's book inspired by his son Remo losing his stuffed animal
 
[38:48] Joe's son's first reaction to the finished book: "Where's Milana? My sister should be in it too"
 
[39:25] Why Joe believes teaching kids to cope with adversity is the number one job of a parent
 
[41:22] Leading by example: how kids see everything, reflect everything, and learn how to handle life by watching you
 
[42:06] Separating emotion from response — and catching things when they're little, not when they're boulders
 
[42:43] Why Joe always apologizes to his kids — and why he never says "because I said so"
 
[47:05] Joe's advice: surround yourself with people who make you better, and be the person who brings others up
 
[48:19] On balance: it's impossible — just be where you are, and say yes to the five minutes that matter most
 
 
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. The moments your kids will remember forever aren't the big planned ones — they're the split-second decisions to jump in the pool in a full suit. Be present for the small moments.
 2. Humor is a powerful connector in marriage and family — but it has to know its place. There's a time to laugh through things together and a time to put the jokes down and have the real conversation.
 3. Teaching your kids to cope with adversity is the single most important job you have as a parent. Not grades. Not manners. Coping — because you won't always be there, but their ability to handle life will be.
 4. Never say "because I said so." If you can't explain why you're making a decision, question whether you're making the right one. Kids deserve a reason, and giving one builds trust.
 5. Balance is a myth. You can't do everything equally all the time. But you can be fully where you are — and say yes to the five minutes your kid is asking for, because those five minutes will be the best part of their day.
 
 
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Where Is Barry? by Joe Gatto — available on Amazon
 • Follow Joe Gatto on Instagram: @joe_gatto
 • Joe Gatto's website: 
https://www.joegattoofficial.com/ • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 491): 
https://thedadedge.com/491 
 
 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the moments that shape your kids forever are usually the ones you almost didn't take.
 
Joe Gatto watched his dad jump into a pool in a full suit on a summer evening — a split-second decision that Joe still talks about decades later. And without even thinking about it, Joe recreated that same moment for his own kids when they called him away from work. Three minutes. Full clothes. Right in.
 
That is the legacy. That is what your kids will tell their kids about.
 
You don't have to be perfect. You don't have to have all the answers. You just have to show up, say yes when it counts, and teach them how to handle life when you're not around to help.
 
If this episode made you laugh and think — which it will — share it with a dad who needs both today.
 
Go out and live legendary.

Why the Best Dad Moments Are Never the Ones You Planned featuring Joe Gatto

In this episode, I'm joined by my co-host Uncle Joe for one of our live Q&A sessions — where real men from the Dad Edge Alliance bring their real questions, and we do our best to give them real, honest answers.
 
This one covers a lot of ground. We open with a powerful question from Rich — a man who spent nearly 30 years as an agnostic, gave his life to Christ six months ago, and now wants to know how to lead his 11 kids toward faith without forcing it on them. Joe brings wisdom from his own walk, and I share a deeply personal story about going to church with my son Ethan — how one pastor's offhand comment cracked something open in me, and how an honest, vulnerable conversation in a car changed the entire trajectory of my relationship with my son around faith.
 
The second question is one that hits close to home for a lot of men in this community: when things have been bad in your marriage for a long time and you finally start getting wins — how do you avoid going complacent? Joe and I both dig into this one from personal experience. Joe speaks to the PTSD that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage, how fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the very progress you've worked so hard for, and why faith — not fear — has to lead. I talk about consistency, keeping the sword sharp, and why marriage is exactly like the gym.
 
We close with a bonus coaching moment on communication — why "you make me feel" is a conversation grenade, and how to ask for clarity in a way that actually works.
 
 
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Welcome to the Q&A — live questions from real Dad Edge Alliance members
 
[1:42] Reminder: Roommates to Soulmates Cohort preview call on April 1st at 7pm Central
 
[2:50] Question 1 — Rich: I gave my life to Christ six months ago after 30 years as an agnostic. How do I lead my older kids toward faith without forcing it?
 
[6:07] Joe's answer: You lead by example, walking it out in front of them — including when you fail and change course
 
[8:33] Joe's story: his son Colin told his wife "the dad I have now is not the dad I had ten years ago"
 
[9:21] The power of community in faith — why you cannot walk this walk alone
 
[9:55] What Joe does every two weeks: a Zoom Bible study with his entire grown family
 
[11:02] Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world — get your inside right first
 
[13:47] Larry's answer: his personal journey from cultural Catholic to full believer — and what changed in the last year
 
[15:17] The situation with Larry's son Ethan — a controversial church, a girlfriend pushing conversion, and how Larry navigated it without muscling him
 
[16:35] How Larry approached it: curiosity over control — asking questions instead of issuing warnings
 
[17:14] Larry goes to church with Ethan and hears a pastor say: "I had a great dad — but I had to find God by myself"
 
[19:12] The conviction that hit Larry on the way home: "I'm failing you just like his dad failed him"
 
[21:33] The honest conversation in the car — and Ethan's response that Larry never expected
 
[23:10] How Larry invited Ethan into a Bible study as a fellow learner, not a teacher — and what it has done for their relationship
 
[25:22] Question 2 — Anonymous: When things have been bad for years and you finally start getting wins in your marriage, how do you avoid getting complacent?
 
[25:56] Larry's answer: expect your wife to pull back at first — she's afraid to hope. Keep the sword sharp and never take your foot off the gas
 
[28:01] Joe's answer: be mindful of the PTSD and insecurity that builds up inside a man after years of a hard marriage
 
[29:21] How fear and insecurity can quietly self-sabotage the progress you've worked so hard for
 
[30:16] Let faith lead, not fear — fear has never once led Joe somewhere he was glad he went
 
[31:03] A real-time example: a man texting Joe that morning — his wife said she wants to stop counseling and he went into panic mode
 
[32:26] How to get clarity instead of telling yourself a story
 
[34:23] The right way to ask for clarity — why "you make me feel" is a grenade and what to say instead
 
[36:31] Words have power. Be effective, not just right.
 
[37:27] Bonus: never text your wife emotional content — everyone reads it through their own filter
 
 
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. You lead your kids toward faith the same way you lead them in everything else — by living it in front of them, including letting them see you fail and change course.
 2. You don't have to be an expert to lead your kids spiritually. Invite them to learn alongside you. "Let's figure this out together" is more powerful than "let me teach you."
 3. Your outside world is always a reflection of your inside world. If you want things to change around you, start with what's happening inside you.
 4. When your marriage starts turning around, don't get complacent. Marriage is like the gym — you don't work chest for eight weeks and then wonder why it's gone. Consistency is everything.
 5. Stop telling yourself a story about what your wife meant. Get clarity. And when you do, don't say "you make me feel" — own your interpretation and ask with curiosity, not accusation.
 
 
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1456): 
https://thedadedge.com/1456 
 
 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the most powerful thing you can do for the people you love is get yourself right on the inside first.
 
Whether it's leading your kids toward faith, rebuilding your marriage, or just showing up differently than you have before — it all starts with the man in the mirror. Not the version of you that has all the answers, but the version that's humble enough to say "I don't have it all figured out, but I'm willing to learn."
 
That's the man your kids need. That's the man your wife needs.
 
If this episode resonated with you, share it with a man who is in the middle of his own turning point.
 
Go out and live legendary.

Guiding Your Kids Toward Faith Without Forcing It

In this episode, I sit down with Nikki Sixx — founder of Mötley Crüe, rock legend, bestselling author, and a man whose story goes so much deeper than anything that ever happened on a stage.
 
This conversation is not about the music. It's about what happens when a boy grows up without his father, carries that wound through decades of addiction and chaos, and finally — through sobriety, therapy, forgiveness, and faith — becomes the kind of dad his own kids can always run to.
 
Nikki opens up about growing up without his dad in the picture, how the story he was told about his father wasn't the full truth, and the slow and painful process of forgiving both his parents. He shares the defining therapy session where a frumpy office, a dusty couch, and one sentence from his therapist — "you don't have to love your mom" — cracked something open in him that changed everything.
 
We talk about sobriety, and Nikki is direct: it always gets worse before it gets better. When you remove the substance, you have to face what's underneath. But if you can survive that first year, your whole life reorganizes. He's 20 years sober, and what he's built on the other side of that — as a husband, a father of five, a writer, and a creative — is nothing short of remarkable.
 
And Larry's son Ethan jumps in with a question that leads to one of the most important moments of the episode: Nikki's warning to today's teenagers about the very real and deadly danger of fentanyl-laced drugs — from someone who has lived every version of this story.
 
 
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Introducing Nikki Sixx — founder of Mötley Crüe, author, and one of the most unexpected guests in Dad Edge history
 
[2:28] Growing up on vinyl, discovering music, and the self-discovery of being a young man in a different era
 
[5:13] Both Larry and Nikki share the experience of growing up without their fathers — and how it shaped them
 
[6:00] Writing The First 21 — the story of Frankie Farina, his dad's name, and what Nikki discovered about his father that surprised him
 
[7:15] How the absence of a father manifests differently in every man — and why Nikki's came out as anger in his late teens
 
[10:36] Larry's own story: being reunited with his father at 30 and building a relationship over 16 years
 
[13:30] Getting to maturity means facing reality — and what Nikki's kids get to see by watching their dad work through his own stuff
 
[14:22] Being gone on tour while raising kids — the guilt of absence and the work of making amends
 
[15:35] No gold records on the walls: how Nikki deliberately kept his celebrity out of the home to protect his kids
 
[16:32] "Not wanting to be my dad made me a better dad — but forgiving my dad might make me an even better one"
 
[17:16] At 62 with a two-year-old: what legacy do you want to leave, and how do you get there without carrying old baggage?
 
[18:31] Put down the baggage — it's heavy, it's exhausting, and it's crushing the people who love you most
 
[19:23] The therapy session that changed Nikki's life: a dusty office, beams of light, and "you don't have to love your mom"
 
[21:19] Letting go of the victim story and reclaiming the good — his dad was creative, his mom was charismatic, and Nikki carries both
 
[23:28] Creating a home where your kids can always call dad — no matter what, no matter when
 
[24:19] How unforgiveness clouds your ability to love the people right in front of you
 
[25:36] Why Nikki shares his story publicly — so someone else doesn't have to wait as long to have their moment
 
[29:18] When your daughter says "dad, you seem so happy" — the moment you know it's working
 
[30:11] Ethan tells Larry "I love my life" — and why that's the greatest thing a father can hear
 
[31:04] Moving from LA to Wyoming: finding simplicity in nature, watching moose in the yard, and what wildlife teaches about family
 
[37:24] 20 years of sobriety — and why Nikki says it is an absolute gift
 
[37:43] The hard truth about getting sober: it always gets worse before it gets better, and most people quit too soon
 
[41:28] Larry's 90-day sobriety challenge with 30 men — and what clarity feels like when you strip alcohol away
 
[43:41] Why humans are the only animals that can completely change the shape of their mind and body — and what that means for how we live
 
[45:21] Men's stag meetings, male support systems, and why Nikki found brotherhood in sobriety that he never had growing up
 
[47:37] Ethan's question for Nikki: what advice would you give a teenager in this generation?
 
[48:39] Nikki's urgent warning about fentanyl — the drugs today are not what they were, and they are killing healthy young athletes at parties
 
[50:19] How Nikki got sober: losing every friend, throwing himself into health and fitness, and writing Doctor Feelgood
 
 
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. The story you were told about your father may not be the full truth. Until you do the work to find out who he really was, you're carrying someone else's version of your own life.
 2. Unforgiveness doesn't hurt the person you're holding it against — it closes you off from the people right in front of you who love you and need you.
 3. Sobriety always gets worse before it gets better. When you remove the substance, you have to face what's underneath. That is the work — and it's worth it.
 4. The greatest thing you can build as a father is an environment where your kids feel safe enough to call you when things go wrong — not hide it from you.
 5. The drugs today are not what they were. Fentanyl doesn't care how healthy or young you are. This is not a conversation to put off with your kids.
 
 
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • The First 21 by Nikki Sixx: Available on Amazon
 • Follow Nikki Sixx on Instagram: @nikkisixxpixx
 • Episode Link & Resources: 
https://thedadedge.com/343 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: the baggage you're carrying is not just yours to bear — it's being felt by every person in your home.
 
Nikki Sixx spent decades carrying wounds from a father who left and a mother who filled in the gaps with half-truths. And it wasn't until he put that baggage down — through sobriety, through therapy, through the hard work of forgiveness — that he could fully show up for his wife and his five kids.
 
That is the work. It's not glamorous, it's not fast, and it doesn't happen all at once. But on the other side of it is a man his daughter looks at and says, "Dad, you seem so happy."
 
That is the goal.
 
If this episode hit close to home, share it with a man who needs to hear it. Because every man deserves to put the weight down.
 
Go out and live legendary.

From The Dirt to The Dad & the Story of Forgiveness and Finding Freedom featuring Nikki Sixx

In this episode, I sit down with former NFL tight end Greg Olsen — a man who built one of the most decorated careers in professional football, but whose greatest story has nothing to do with what happened on the field.
 
We talk about Greg's upbringing in an all-boys household led by a high school football coach father who pushed hard, loved harder, and never let his kids settle for less than their best. Those lessons — accountability, perseverance, and doing the hard things when no one's watching — are ones Greg still carries and now passes on to his own kids.
 
We also get into the youth sports landscape today, the difference between a helicopter parent and what Greg calls a "Zamboni parent," and why letting your kids face real adversity early is one of the greatest gifts you can give them. Greg's philosophy is simple: you can teach skills, but you cannot coach desire.
 
But the heart of this conversation is TJ. Greg opens up about the moment an ultrasound revealed that his son TJ had hypoplastic left heart syndrome — a condition where only one side of the heart is functional and is 100% fatal if left untreated. He walks us through what it was like to be a husband, a father to other kids at home, and a starting NFL player — all while his newborn son was recovering from open heart surgery. And how he and his wife Cara made a conscious decision every single day to stay aligned, take turns being strong for each other, and refuse to let the weight of the uncontrollable destroy what they had built together.
 
This episode will challenge you, move you, and remind you that the measure of a man is not how he performs when everything is going well — it's how he leads when he has absolutely no control.
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Why this replay hits differently the second time — and what makes Greg Olsen's story so powerful
 
[2:44] Greg's upbringing: an all-boys household, a football coach dad, and a life built around sports and high expectations
 
[7:29] Why Greg wouldn't trade his demanding childhood for anything — and the lessons he still carries today
 
[8:46] When dad is also coach: the life lessons sports instilled in Greg that carried him to the NFL
 
[9:27] The harder a coach pushes you, the more they believe in you — and why parents today have lost sight of this
 
[11:39] The Zamboni parent: why over-protecting kids from adversity sets them up to fail in the real world
 
[14:02] Finding the balance — building kids' confidence while still holding them to a real standard
 
[23:43] How Greg coaches his own kids differently: effort is the only thing he'll call out from the sideline
 
[26:24] The parents who don't show up to practice but have all the answers on game day — Greg's take
 
[29:05] The moment everything changed: finding out at an ultrasound that TJ had a serious congenital heart defect
 
[30:33] What hypoplastic left heart syndrome is — and why it's 100% fatal if left undetected
 
[32:24] How Greg and his wife Cara made a conscious decision to stay aligned through the unthinkable
 
[34:25] Wearing three hats at once: spouse, parent at home, parent at the hospital — and still performing on the field
 
[36:19] The hardest part for a fixer: facing something you cannot work, solve, or control
 
[37:17] Larry shares his own story of losing a son — and the helplessness every man feels when he can't protect his family
 
[39:39] Greg's response: how he navigated grief, kept the family moving, and put his own needs last
 
[41:59] Why you can't sit on the couch feeling sorry for yourself — even when no one would blame you
 
[44:02] Larry's 14-year-old son's questions for Greg: what kept you focused at my age?
 
[45:17] The moment at 14 that clicked — getting a scholarship offer from the University of Miami and realizing this could be bigger than high school
 
[47:03] Long-term vision over short-term comfort: why every hard decision Greg made in high school was worth it
 
[49:48] Why today's kids face more distraction than ever — and what Greg would tell them
 
[50:04] The kind of friends that will make or break you — Greg's advice on who to surround yourself with
 
[53:32] What Greg would tell his 14-year-old self: stop and smell the roses, because the hard stuff is coming
 
[57:04] What Greg wants from every kid he coaches: great attitude, great teammate, and fiercely competitive
 

 Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. The harder a coach or parent pushes you, the more they believe in you. When they stop pushing, they've stopped seeing potential.
 2. Protecting your kids from every hard thing is not love — it's setting them up to fail. Let them face adversity early, while the stakes are still low.
 3. When crisis hits your family, the most important decision you can make is to stay aligned with your spouse. If you two fall apart, everything falls apart.
 4. Men are wired to fix things — but some of life's hardest seasons require you to simply show up, support, and surrender control. That's not weakness. That's leadership.
 5. You can teach skills, but you cannot coach desire. If your kid has a competitive fire and a great attitude, they will find their way — in sports and in life.
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • You Think Podcast with Greg Olsen: Available wherever you get your podcasts
 • Follow Greg Olsen on Instagram: @gregolsen88
 • Episode Link & Resources: 
https://thedadedge.com/1454 
 
 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: a man's greatest test is not how he performs under the lights — it's how he leads when the outcome is completely out of his hands.
 
Greg Olsen had every reason to fall apart. A newborn son fighting for his life. Two other kids at home. A wife who needed him. A season that wouldn't pause. And yet, he and Cara chose every single day to stay aligned, to keep moving, and to give their kids the most normal, love-filled life they could.
 
That is the standard. That is what it means to lead a family.
 
If this episode moved you, share it with a father who is carrying something heavy right now and needs to be reminded that he is not alone.
 
Go out and live legendary.

Marriage Under Pressure & Weathering Life's Hardest Storms featuring Greg Olsen

In this episode, I sit down with Tara and Tim Katzman — a real couple from our own Dad Edge community who were standing at the doorstep of divorce and chose to fight for their marriage instead. This is one of the most downloaded episodes in Dad Edge history, and when you hear their story, you'll understand why.
 
Tim was a workaholic consumed by his business, available to clients around the clock while his wife and kids got whatever was left — which was almost nothing. Tara reached a breaking point where leaving felt like the only sane option. She was done. She told him daily she wanted a divorce. And yet something shifted.
 
We dig into what that turning point actually looked like — the flatline-or-mad emotional state Tim was stuck in, the moment Tara came prepared for a fight and got ownership and an apology instead, and how Tim went from never setting a boundary with a client to shutting work off at 4pm and protecting his family time fiercely. Their 18-year-old daughter even noticed — calling out that "dad is out of his people-pleasing era."
 
We also get into what it means to go from doing the right things to actually being a different man — and why that distinction matters more than any tactic or checklist. Tara describes going from keeping mental receipts and bracing for fallout every time she spoke, to fully melting into her husband. Tim describes going from avoiding his wife to not being able to spend enough time with her.
 
If your marriage feels like a checklist, if you're disappearing into work, or if you've already heard the words "I'm not in love with you anymore" — this episode is proof that it is possible to turn it all the way around.
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Why this episode is one of the most downloaded in Dad Edge history — and what makes it so real
 
[1:47] Setting the scene: Tim the workaholic, Tara on the verge of walking out, and a marriage running on fumes
 
[3:24] Switching Wednesday Q&As to real stories of wins from men and couples in the community
 
[5:42] Tim and Tara introduce themselves — four kids, a pool business, and a 22-year relationship that started at 16
 
[7:32] Growing up in divorced households with no blueprint for what a healthy marriage looks like
 
[10:18] The forced house move that made everything worse — and the moment Tara hit her absolute lowest
 
[12:10] What the disconnection really looked like day to day: ships passing in the night, Tim treating family like a bother
 
[13:50] When the kids started getting the same treatment — and why that was Tara's breaking point
 
[17:34] The meditation exercise that shifted Tim's perspective and turned down the volume on work urgency
 
[18:34] Setting boundaries with clients for the first time — and Tara having to tell him to stop ignoring people
 
[19:40] Their 18-year-old daughter notices the change: "Dad's out of his people-pleasing era"
 
[20:52] Tim's side of the story: feeling completely alone while sleeping one foot away from his wife every night
 
[23:58] Tara's plan to leave — and the screaming match that became the turning point
 
[27:47] Tara's honest reaction when Tim said a podcast was going to fix things: she laughed
 
[29:50] The first signs of real change — Tim hearing her, owning his mistakes, and apologizing to the kids
 
[31:33] The difference between covert contracts and genuine ownership — and which one Tim chose
 
[35:42] Tara describes what it feels like to finally be safe enough to bring anything to him without bracing for fallout
 
[37:06] How the relationship has completely transformed — travel, connection, and a bond Tara never believed was possible
 
[39:26] Tim's perspective now: from avoiding conflict to not being able to get enough time with her
 
[41:25] The moment Tara started "melting" — and what it means when a woman can finally drop her defenses
 
[43:17] Masculine and feminine energy — why Tara stepping into her femininity changed the dynamic of everything
 
[45:00] If you could go back and give yourself advice — what Tim and Tara would tell themselves 2-3 years ago
 
[47:56] The difference between doing and being — when the work becomes who you are, not just what you do
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. Disconnection rarely looks like dramatic blowups — it looks like two people sharing a house but not a life, talking only about what has to get done.
 2. A real apology combined with real follow-through is more powerful than years of arguing. Ownership without excuses changes everything.
 3. When a man becomes the lowest heartbeat in the room — calm, present, and safe — his wife and kids will naturally move toward him.
 4. The work you do on yourself doesn't stay contained to one area. When Tim changed, it transformed their marriage, their kids, their business, and their friendship.
 5. There is a difference between doing the right things and being a different man. When it becomes your way of being, you stop having to try — it's just who you are.
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Dad Edge Business Boardroom: 
https://thedadedge.com/mastermind • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1453): 
https://thedadedge.com/1453 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: it is never too late to turn your marriage around — but you have to be willing to truly change, not just try harder.
 
Tara and Tim were 18 years in, kids watching, divorce on the table daily, and they found their way back to something neither of them believed was even possible. Not because life got easier. Because Tim decided to become a different man.
 
If this episode spoke to something you're carrying right now, don't wait. The longer you wait, the more distance builds. Share this with a man who needs to hear it.
 
Because when a man leads well at home, everybody wins.
 
Go out and live legendary.

The Hard Journey Back from the Edge of Divorce featuring Tara & Tim Katzman

In this episode, I sit down with Terrence Ogden, founder of Official Project Grit — a man who transformed a life of addiction, jail time, and rock bottom into one of the most inspiring stories of resilience, grit, and faith you'll ever hear.
 
We start with the Immortal 32 Ruck — a 75-mile road march from Gonzales, Texas to the Alamo, now in its seventh year, inspired by the 32 men who answered the call at the Alamo knowing it was a one-way ticket. But what makes Terrence's story so gripping is where he came from. Years as a severe heroin addict, cycling in and out of jail, until a mentor named Kenny Baker reached out a hand and changed everything. That spirit of one man helping another became the DNA of Project Grit.
 
We also get into Terrence's most extraordinary feat: a solo, self-supported 1,046-mile ruck across the entire state of Texas — 40 days, no crew, with food caches buried in the desert weeks in advance. He shares what it taught him about faith, discipline, and a peace found not in the absence of chaos, but in the presence of God within it.
 
We close with a powerful call to any man carrying something heavy in silence. Terrence's message is simple: we are tribal by nature, and you will never find your true purpose until you're willing to ask another man for help.
 
Timeline Summary
 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities
 
[1:01] Introducing Terrence Ogden — founder of Official Project Grit and one of the toughest non-veterans you'll ever meet
 
[1:46] The Immortal 32 Ruck: a 75-mile road march from Gonzales to the Alamo held every year around Texas Independence Day
 
[4:18] Terrence recaps the seventh annual event — 51 starters, 35 finishers, record-breaking heat in Texas
 
[7:32] How Official Project Grit was born — and why it starts with Terrence's story of addiction and redemption
 
[8:19] The mentor who changed everything: Kenny Baker, the man who pulled Terrence out of the gutter
 
[10:32] The Soul Crusher: the defining moment at mile 40 that gave birth to Project Grit's true mission
 
[13:25] Ad break — Roommates to Soulmates Cohort preview call
 
[15:11] Rucking as an equalizer: how a knee injury transitioned Terrence from ultramarathons to rucking
 
[20:28] The power of reaching out — Larry's personal story of texting a friend in a dark moment
 
[23:06] Six years sober and on the edge: Terrence's most gripping near-relapse story and the friend who saved him
 
[28:15] The battle cry — a message for any man who is lone-wolfing it right now
 
[30:04] Discipline before confidence: Terrence's leadership philosophy and how he's raising his kids
 
[32:49] The 1,046-mile Texas ruck: 40 days, solo, self-supported, food caches buried in the desert
 
[39:10] Finding peace in the desert — and why peace isn't the absence of chaos but the presence of God
 
[41:54] The spiritual parallels to 40 days in the desert — temptation, faith, and miraculous provision
 
[48:07] What's next: the Gritty 50 event, a book, and an upcoming documentary
 
[50:37] Final words for the man in the dark — why reaching out to a brother changes everything
 
Five Key Takeaways
 
 1. You don't have to be born tough — grit is built through facing adversity head on, one hard decision at a time.
 2. Every man needs a "running buddy" — someone who will call you out, show up for you, and help you make the right decision when your own mind is working against you.
 3. Discipline comes before confidence. Motivation fades, but discipline gives you the structure and confidence to overcome whatever comes your way.
 4. We are tribal by nature. Lone-wolfing it is a trap — strength, purpose, and redemption are almost always found by letting another man in.
 5. Peace is not found in the absence of chaos — it's found in the presence of God within the chaos.
 
Links & Resources
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Official Project Grit Instagram: 
https://www.instagram.com/officialprojectgrit • Official Project Grit Website: 
https://officialprojectgrit.com • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1452): 
https://thedadedge.com/1452 
Closing
 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: no man was meant to carry his heaviest load alone.
 
Terrence Ogden went from a heroin addict cycling in and out of jail to rucking 1,046 miles solo across the state of Texas — not because he was born tough, but because one man reached out a hand when he was at rock bottom. And Terrence paid that forward.
 
Whether you're in a season of darkness right now, or you know someone who is — this episode is a reminder that the bravest thing a man can do is pick up the phone and say, "I need help."
 
If this conversation moved you, share it with a man in your life who needs to hear it.
 
Go out and live legendary.

Finding God, Grit, and Purpose in the Desert featuring Terrence Ogden

In this episode, I sit down with Dan Cocran, a young leader who is on a mission to help men in one of the most overlooked seasons of life—the years between 18 and 30. While many resources exist for married men, fathers, and established professionals, very few focus on young men who are still trying to find their footing in the world.
 
 
 
Dan shares the inspiration behind the Forging Your Future Young Men's Summit, an event designed to help young men build confidence, discover purpose, and develop the leadership skills they need to thrive in their careers, relationships, and communities.
 
 
 
We dive into the challenges young men face today—lack of mentorship, isolation, confusion around purpose, and the pressure to figure life out without guidance. Dan explains why community, mentorship, and intentional development are essential during this critical season of life.
 
 
 
We also talk about the responsibility fathers have to mentor the next generation—not just their own sons, but the young men around them. Because when men step up and invest in younger men, it doesn't just change one life—it changes families, communities, and future generations.
 
 
 
If you're raising sons, mentoring younger men, or simply want to understand the challenges facing the next generation of men, this conversation will open your eyes to why leadership and mentorship matter now more than ever.
 
 
 Timeline Summary 
[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to create leaders of families and communities
 
[1:02] Reflecting on the uncertainty many men experience in their early twenties
 
[1:46] Why the years between 18 and 30 are often overlooked in male development
 
[2:24] The importance of mentorship, guidance, and community for young men
 
[2:45] Introducing Dan Cocran and the vision behind the Forging Your Future Young Men's Summit
 
[3:21] Why there are few resources designed specifically for men ages 18–30
 
[3:56] The modern challenges young men face when trying to find direction and purpose
 
[4:12] Why fathers should care deeply about the development of the next generation of men
 
[4:27] Reflecting on how many men feel lost during their early adult years
 
[4:43] Why mentorship and leadership development can dramatically change a young man's trajectory
 
 
 
 
 Five Key Takeaways 1. The years between 18 and 30 are one of the most critical stages of development for men.
 2. Many young men struggle today because they lack mentorship, direction, and supportive communities.
 3. Fathers and older men play a vital role in guiding and investing in the next generation.
 4. Community and accountability help young men build confidence and purpose.
 5. When men intentionally mentor younger men, they strengthen families and communities for generations.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Links & Resources • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • The Men's Forge: 
https://themensforge.com • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1449): 
https://thedadedge.com/1449 
 
 
 
 Closing 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: young men need guidance now more than ever.
 
The years between 18 and 30 can shape the trajectory of a man's entire life. When young men have mentors, community, and strong examples to follow, they don't just survive those years—they build the foundation for leadership, purpose, and impact.
 
If this episode resonated with you, share it with a father, mentor, or young man who could benefit from this conversation.
 
Because when men step up to guide the next generation, the ripple effects are felt for decades.
 
Go out and live legendary.

How Young Men Can Shape Their Life & Future Starting Now featuring Dan Cocran

In this Wednesday Q&A episode, Uncle Joe and I respond to a powerful question from a dad who's struggling with impulsive reactions, shutting down during conflict, and feeling like he can't get out of the same argument patterns with his wife. If you've ever caught yourself reacting instead of listening, or walking away from conversations feeling frustrated and disconnected, this episode will hit close to home.
 
 
 
We unpack the truth that two things can be true at the same time—both partners can be overwhelmed, both can be carrying heavy loads, and both can feel unseen. The key isn't competing over who has it harder; it's learning how to step out of the competition and into collaboration. We talk about how to create psychological safety during hard conversations, how to interrupt unhealthy patterns, and why curiosity is far more powerful than defensiveness.
 
 
 
Uncle Joe also shares a powerful perspective about what he calls the "rucksack principle"—taking an honest inventory of what you're carrying and being willing to sacrifice things that may be important to you but aren't serving the health of your marriage or family. If you're feeling overwhelmed, reactive, or stuck in recurring conflict, this episode offers practical tools and a new perspective on leadership at home.
 
 
 
 
 Timeline Summary: 
[1:01] Wednesday Q&A kickoff with Uncle Joe and the Dad Edge community 
 
[2:00] Listener question about impulsive reactions, yelling, and shutting down in marriage 
 
[4:45] The powerful truth that two things can be true at the same time 
 
[5:56] The "100-pound rucksack" analogy for overwhelm in marriage 
 
[7:50] How to interrupt the conflict cycle with a new conversation approach 
 
[10:00] Creating psychological safety by changing physical positioning in conversations 
 
[13:20] Uncle Joe's perspective on inspecting your own "rucksack" first 
 
[16:00] What real love looks like: patience, sacrifice, and humility 
 
[21:30] The power of daily journaling and reflection to improve emotional awareness 
 
[24:00] Why most men struggle with relationships because of a skill gap—not bad intentions 
 
 
 
 
 Five Key Takeaways 1. Two things can be true at the same time—both partners can feel overwhelmed and still need support.
 2. Competing over who has it harder only deepens conflict in marriage.
 3. Psychological safety is created through curiosity, listening, and calm tone—not defensiveness.
 4. Great leadership in marriage starts by examining your own "rucksack" first.
 5. Most relationship struggles come from a skill gap—not a lack of love or commitment.
 
 
 Links & Resources • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • Episode Shownotes: 
http://thedadedge.com/1450 
 
 Closing 
If you've been feeling reactive, overwhelmed, or stuck in the same conflict patterns at home, remember this: leadership in marriage starts with self-awareness.
 
 
 
Start by checking your own rucksack. Get curious instead of defensive. Create space for real conversations instead of competition.
 
 
 
If this episode resonated with you, make sure you rate, review, follow, and share it with another dad who needs to hear it.
 
 
 
Go out and live legendary.

The Conflict Cycle That Keeps Married Couples Stuck & Unhappy

What does it really look like to be a present father when life pulls you in a thousand different directions?
 
 
 
In this powerful conversation, I sit down with actor Jon Bernthal—known for roles in The Punisher, The Walking Dead, Ford v Ferrari, and The Wolf of Wall Street—but what you'll hear today isn't about Hollywood. It's about fatherhood, humility, responsibility, and the deep influence a father can have on a son's life.
 
 
 
Jon opens up about his childhood, the mistakes he made growing up, and the unwavering presence of a father who never gave up on him—even during the hardest seasons. We talk about the lessons Jon learned from those experiences and how they shaped the man, husband, and father he is today.
 
 
 
We also dive into what intentional fatherhood looks like in real life: owning your mistakes, being present with your kids, and leading by example. Jon shares how he balances the demands of acting with showing up for his family—sometimes flying across the country overnight just to coach his kid's game.
 
 
 
If you've ever struggled with being present, balancing work and family, or wondering what kind of legacy you're leaving as a dad—this episode will hit home.
 
 
 Timeline Summary 
 
 
[0:01] Why this powerful Jon Bernthal episode is being re-released and why the message still matters 
 
[2:06] Jon Bernthal the actor vs. Jon Bernthal the husband and father 
 
[5:18] The powerful lessons Jon learned from his father growing up 
 
[18:35] Growing up reckless and how his father never gave up on him 
 
[22:02] How mistakes and failures shaped the man he became 
 
[33:12] Balancing a demanding career with being present for family 
 
[36:45] Why intentional presence with your kids matters more than perfection 
 
[37:08] The simple principle Jon lives by: "Be where you are while you're there." 
 
[44:47] Why failure and mistakes are part of being a good father 
 
[54:26] The power of a father who never gives up on his child 
 
 
 
 
 Five Key Takeaways 1. Presence is one of the greatest gifts a father can give his kids.
 2. Failure is part of fatherhood—and it's often where the biggest growth happens.
 3. Kids learn responsibility when parents model humility and ownership.
 4. A father's belief in his child can change the trajectory of that child's life.
 5. The simple discipline of "being where you are while you're there" transforms relationships.
 
 
 
 
 Links & Resources 
 
 
 • Roommates to Soulmates Cohort & Preview Call: 
https://thedadedge.com/soulmates • Episode Link & Resources (Episode 1451): 
https://thedadedge.com/1451 
 
 
 
 Closing 
If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: your presence matters more than your perfection.
 
 
 
Your kids don't need a flawless father. They need a father who shows up, owns his mistakes, and never stops believing in them.
 
 
 
If this episode resonated with you, make sure you rate, review, follow, and share it with another dad who needs to hear it.
 
 
 
Go out and live legendary.

The One Rule Every Dad Needs (Be Where You Are While You're There) featuring Jon Bernthal

In this episode we cover some amazing questions from our community!
 
 1. What it means to live legendary.
 2. How you know you are married to a strong woman.
 3. The gift of failure.
 4. What men can do to make the world a better place despite everything going on.
 5. The power of forgiveness and even forgiving ourselves.

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