What can traffic lights tell us about how our economy could work? It may seem a strange question to ask, but Dirk Helbing, is the person who makes the connection. In this episode, he explains what we can learn from complex dynamic systems and how that knowledge can help us understand and implement a feedback-rich circular economy. Dirk Helbing is Professor of Computational Social Science at the Department of Humanities, Social and Political Sciences at ETH Zurich. Listen to the previous episodes of _A New Dynamic podcast series _

_This podcast series presented by Colin Webster explores the recently published book A New Dynamic 2: Effective systems in a circular economy. Each programme features an interview with authors of the book’s chapters. These leading experts on architecture, agriculture, design, business or engineering, provide unique insights that reflect on the necessity to develop a whole-system approach to re-think our economy. _ Order your copy of A New Dynamic 2: Effective systems in a circular economy