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Evergreen Podcasts

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Buckle up, HR tech nerds, because the boys are back to save you from your own snooze-fest industry. On this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel and Chad are diving headfirst into the chaotic vibes of 2026. 

They kick things off with a wild ride through the future—from the engineering feat of cleaning toilets on the Artemis moon missions to the "side hustle seduction" of the AI training gold rush. 

While platforms like Handshake and Mercor see revenues skyrocket, the big question remains: are experts actually mentoring AI, or just training their own replacements?

The cynicism stays high as the duo tackles the latest drama from Silicon Valley elites, including Molotov cocktails at Sam Altman’s house and Mark Zuckerberg’s creepy AI twin. 

They dig into the "existential threat" AI poses to Gen Z, who are using the tech weekly but fear it’s gutting their wages and killing their creativity. 

On the industry front, they break down Humanly’s acquisition of Anthill, questioning if this is a masterstroke in the frontline workforce game or just a high-speed fire sale. 

Expect the usual blend of sharp analysis, 90s music nostalgia, and enough dad jokes to make you regret your career choices.

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to the Podcast and Current Events

03:00 - Reflections on Space Exploration and Sports

05:58 - Oasis and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

09:55 - Candidate Fraud and AI Training Market

14:58 - The Future of AI and Human Involvement

21:47 - The Future of AI and Human Interaction

24:21 - Silicon Valley's Controversial Figures

27:43 - The Impact of AI on Jobs and Society

35:10 - Generational Perspectives on AI

41:14 - Humanly's Strategic Acquisitions and Market Positioning

LinkedIn 'Shakes and Gen Z Breaks

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Shredded: HrFlow.ai, Humanly, ZRG, TraqCheck, LinkedIn, Handshake, Mercor, & More

Recruiting hasn’t just evolved—it’s being completely rewritten. For decades, the hiring process has been a "black hole" of static resumes and guarded information, but the walls are finally coming down.

In this episode, Allyn Bailey (SmartRecruiters) joins Chad Sowash to expose why traditional systems are becoming irrelevant. They dive into the shift from isolated tech to AI-driven, data-connected ecosystems where agents live directly within your daily workflows.

More importantly, they tackle the industry’s biggest taboo: Transparency. From real-time candidate scoring to the end of salary secrecy, learn why the redistribution of power is inevitable—and why companies clinging to the old ways of "control" will be the first to lose the war for talent.

Key Takeaways:

 
Why integration with AI is a real breakthrough.

 
The transition from static job descriptions to dynamic talent maps.

 
How AI is replacing candidate silence with actionable feedback and roadmaps.

Radical Transparency with Allyn Bailey

This week on HR's most dangerous podcast, Chad and JT are cutting through the seasonal slush and corporate spin.

 
The BLS Fairy Tale: The White House is hailing a "golden age" of job growth, but we’re pulling back the curtain on a report filled with striking workers returning to payrolls and construction crews finally seeing the sun.

 
The Agentic Takeover: Paylocity acquires Grayscale as the industry pivots from simple SMS pings to full-blown AI orchestration. Is this a high-value play or just an "aqua-hire" to survive the tech-debt race?.

 
Uncle Sam’s Playbook: Healthcare startup Clasp raises $20M by dusting off a 100-year-old military model to trade student loan debt for employee tenure.

 
The Dorsey Doctrine: We dive into Jack Dorsey’s "heady" vision of a remote-first world where AI maintains a company’s "world model," effectively flattening the hierarchy and making middle management obsolete.

Is the economy actually booming, or is it just a "two-week" soundbite on loop?. Grab a whiskey (preferably Blanton's) and find out.

Grayscale Evolves & BLS Lies?

Shredded: Indeed, monday.com, Burger King, JPMorgan, Paylocity, Grayscale Labs, LinkedIn, & More

It’s the podcast your mom warned you about, and this week, Chad & Cheese are digging into the trenches of the medical imaging world with Josh Block, author of People Matter at Work. From the "FUNCY" streets of Muncie, Indiana, to unexpectedly becoming the president of a $30M family business over a single weekend, Josh shares his wild ride of scaling an organization to over $200M by betting everything on healthy culture.

In this episode, the guys tackle why healthcare management is notoriously broken, the reality of imposter syndrome when you're handed the keys to the kingdom at 29, and the "stop sign revelation" in Indiana that sparked a six-year journey to prove that people actually matter in the workplace. 

Forget the polished marketing fluff; this is a raw look at workforce leadership, Big Ten rivalries, and whether or not Josh was actually tapped on the shoulder by a ghost—or just a local in Muncie—to tell his story.

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to Josh Block and His Journey

03:04 - The Importance of Culture in the Workplace

05:56 - Challenges in Healthcare and the Role of AI

08:56 - Creating a Healthy Work Environment

12:05 - Navigating Growth and Change in Organizations

15:07 - The Impact of Remote Work on Company Culture

18:04 - Flexibility and Retention Strategies

20:51 - Addressing Politics in the Workplace

23:58 - Cultural Identity and Employee Engagement

26:58 - Retention and Employee Tenure Insights

Creating a Culture Where People (Actually) Matter: Insights from Josh Block

Get ready for another round of high-stakes industry talk and "light-hearted" chaos on this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast. The boys are back, with Chad recapping a whirlwind UK tour of scotch and golf while revealing a brand-new tattoo that has Joel feeling a bit "cheated" on. 

Between Emi’s pivot from Sri Lanka to Brazil and a heated debate over whether they’d sell out their friends for a MrBeast-sized jackpot, the team dives into the heavy hitters: Oracle’s massive AI-driven layoffs and the fallout of the Mercor data breach.

The conversation turns sharp as they dissect the US Senate’s investigation into data brokers like Findem and LinkedIn’s latest power move to kill spontaneous live streaming in favor of monetization. 

From Citi banker Jay Collins’ dire warnings about AI threatening the middle class to Melania Trump’s vision of humanoid robots in the classroom, no stone is left unturned. 

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Personal Updates

03:20 - Travel Tales and Experiences

06:21 - Shout Outs and Current Events

09:37 - Tech Layoffs and AI Concerns

11:16 - Entertainment and Reality Shows

15:47 - Beer and Events: A Lighthearted Start

17:10 - Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities

19:06 - Traitify Acquisition Update

21:12 Mercor Data Breach: A Serious Concern

30:31 Senate Investigation into Data Brokers, Findem

39:04 The Value of Transparency in Data Handling

40:01 The Future of Live Streaming on LinkedIn

47:05 AI and the Threat to Capitalism

58:08 Education in the Age of AI

Mercor Hacks & Findem Smacks

Shredded: Allvia, HR Pals, Clasp, Origin, Aetheon, Deccan AI, Linkedin, & More

Is "Agentic Recruiting" the end of HR friction? Chad Sowash sits down with Shiran Yaroslavsky to discuss the shift from clunky dashboards to seamless AI orchestration. Shiran shares how to wake up "zombie" talent pools, slash ATS migrations from months to weeks, and build transparent, bias-monitored systems. It’s a masterclass in making AI work for the recruiter, not the other way around.

Recruiting Rewired

In this episode of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, Joel Cheesman is joined by guest host JT O’Donnell for a candid, high-energy deep dive into the chaotic labor market of 2026. The duo kicks things off with "girl talk," debating the age-old GIF vs. Jif controversy and sharing a wild March Madness story involving a chance elevator encounter with a college coach. The banter quickly turns to the business of sports, exploring how NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals are shifting the coaching landscape and the mental health hurdles athletes face when the big checks stop rolling in.

The heart of the episode tackles the "don’t know what’s real anymore" era of Artificial Intelligence. Joel and JT dissect the drama surrounding OpenAI’s Sora and a viral TikTok "roast" that turned out to be AI-generated marketing slop. They explore the booming AI-clip economy, where creators are using tools like Opus Pro to rake in six-figure incomes without ever stepping in front of a camera. However, the corporate side of AI presents a grimmer reality; according to the Randstad Workmonitor 2026, 76% of employers expect half of entry-level roles to vanish within five years due to automation—a looming crisis that many workers have yet to acknowledge.

The conversation gets real about the current white-collar job market, noting that 40% of job-switchers are taking massive pay cuts just to stay employed. They pull no punches on the rise of "reverse recruiting," labeling services that charge desperate job seekers thousands of dollars as potential scams. From rumors of massive layoffs at Talent.com to the surge in demand for "AI Trainers" and "agentic" skills, this episode is a must-listen for anyone trying to navigate a world where traditional career paths are breaking. 

Whether it’s legal drama at Deel, LinkedIn virality in the NBA, or JT’s upcoming appearance at Harvard Business School, this episode blends snarky industry critiques with essential survival tips for the modern workforce.

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Banter

03:09 - Streaming and Content Consumption Trends

05:52 - March Madness and Coaching Dynamics

08:55 - NIL and Financial Literacy for Athletes

12:00 - AI in Recruitment and Marketing

15:59 - The Evolution of Influencer Marketing

19:59 - Shout Outs and Unique Stories

21:57 - Sperm Donation Controversies

23:36 - Shout Out to Harvard Business School

27:11 - Upcoming Events and Networking

28:02 - Talent.com Layoffs and Domain Investments

31:49 - Salary Cuts for White Collar Workers

38:10 - AI's Impact on Entry-Level Jobs

40:43 - Generational Perspectives on Work

47:42 - Understanding Reverse Recruiting

47:52 - The Rise of Reverse Recruiting

52:10 - AI Integration in Corporate Structures

55:48 - The Future of Executive Decision-Making with AI

58:38 - Opportunities in the AI Job Market

01:00:10 - Industry News and Trends

Here's Why White-Collar Salaries are Collapsing

Recorded live at the HR Tech Conference from the Fuel50 booth in Las Vegas, Chad & Cheese connect with Zachary Chertok, Market and Industry Analyst at IDC to dive into the realm of HR tech and employee experience. Chertok has a strong professional background in the Human Capital Management (HCM) space, and addresses shifts in workforce management due to the pandemic, the ever-evolving tech stack, data centralization, and the overall challenges faced by HR professionals. Chertok also highlighted the importance of aligning HR strategies with business goals and the complexities of HR navigating between advocating for employees and organizational constraints. Notably, he also shared some interesting observations from HR Tech, such as a trend towards emphasizing the data use case over functionality, and noted advancements in areas like skills taxonomy, benefits tools, and more nuanced vendor differentiation. To learn more about Fuel50, visit https://fuel50.com.

Unlocking HR Tech Insights with IDC Analyst Zachary Chertok

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