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Evergreen Podcasts

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Buckle up for The Chad & Cheese Podcast, where Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Maureen Clough dive into HR’s wildest waves with their signature no-filter banter! 

This episode tackles the HR tech consolidation frenzy: Workday’s $1.1B Sana acquisition, paired with recent Paradox and Flowise buys, signals a bold AI-driven strategy to streamline everything from sourcing to onboarding with a slick, unified dashboard. It might be Workday’s “peanut butter and jelly” integration but execution’s the key. 

Meanwhile, iCIMS grabs Apli (or is it Aptly? Nobody knows! Not sure it matters) for frontline hiring, but it may be a desperate “last girl at the bar” move to keep up in the conversational AI race. 

The crew also mourns layoffs: Fiverr’s 250 job cuts and ZipRecruiter’s axing of 80 in Israel, with Chad slamming Zip’s post-IPO pivot to a dud chatbot, Phil, and Mo decrying Fiverr’s dystopian AI push that kneecaps freelancers. 

Gen Z’s “revenge quitting” and “great lock-in” trends spark debate—Mo and Chad urge caution, while Joel’s all “life’s tough, kids!” 

Starbucks’ dress code drama (no Crocs, tattoos, or piercings!) ignites a fiery clash: Mo and Chad call it discriminatory nonsense, while Joel insists baristas can just take their hustle to Arby’s. 

Chapters 

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview08:10 Job Market Challenges for Older Workers11:15 Technology and the Future of Work18:46 Sneak Preview of Chicken Cock Whiskey HQ24:11 Acquisitions in the HR Software Sector29:44 Workday's Strategic Moves and Market Positioning35:00 The Future of Work and AI's Impact41:00 Industry Layoffs and AI Transformation51:25 Gen Z's Workplace Challenges and Trends59:18 Starbucks Dress Code Controversy

Workday Shopping Spree & iCIMS' Panic Buy

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Shredded: DianaHR, Workday, Sana, Fiverr, Pack, and ZipRecruiter

AI isn’t fairy dust you sprinkle on your ATS latte—it’s duct tape on 20-year-old tech, sold to you with a shiny new buzzword. Enter Matt Charney, the HR-tech cynic who’s seen it all: Monster, SmartRecruiters, Employer.com, and enough bad vendor decks to wallpaper Vegas.

In this episode, Charney calls BS on:

 
Vendors selling “AI” that’s really just 2003 automation in a new hoodie 

 
HR’s obsession with “a seat at the table” (spoiler: the table’s cold, and nobody saved you a chair) 

 
Why being “first to market” with AI is usually just a great way to bleed out on the cutting edge 

 
And the hilarious reality of candidates getting rejection emails before they’ve even finished hitting submit 

👉 Grab your bourbon, hold on to your recs, and hit play.

AI Won’t Save Recruiting with Matt Charney

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, with Chad Sowash sipping ouzo on a Greek beach, Joel Cheesman and guest J.T. O’Donnell dish out spicy takes on the workforce with their trademark snark.

They kick off with a riff on empathy—or lack thereof—in today’s rage-fueled world, joking that community resilience is basically folks bonding over Wi-Fi outages. 

Corporate layoffs get a roasting, with job security shakier than a Jenga tower at a frat party, and fractional employment pitched as the future for those who love working three jobs to afford one coffee. 

OpenAI’s shiny new job platform sparks eye-rolls, as they dunk on job boards so outdated they might as well be faxing resumes. AI’s role in job matching gets a nod, though they quip it’s less “perfect match” and more “swipe left on bad fits.” 

Labor market woes are dissected, with job seekers facing hurdles higher than a toddler’s tantrum, and generational gripes about work sound like Boomers and Zoomers arguing over who gets the last slice of avocado toast. Economic data? They trust it about as much as a used car salesman’s handshake.

 Indeed and LinkedIn’s AI tools get a playful cage match comparison, while Shaker and Radancy’s acquisition drama is served with a side of corporate soap opera. They wrap up cackling about autonomous vehicles, wondering if truck drivers will soon be replaced by robots who honk worse than your uncle at a tailgate. 

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Current Events
02:25 The State of Empathy and Rage
05:19 Shout Outs and Community Resilience
08:33 Corporate Layoffs and Job Security
11:22 The Future of Work and Fractional Employment
14:22 OpenAI's New Job Platform
17:06 Cynicism Towards Job Boards
20:11 OpenAI's Impact on Job Searching
27:16 AI in Job Matching and Job Seeker Education
29:06 Labor Market Insights and Economic Realities
30:50 Demographics of Job Seekers and Their Challenges
33:04 Generational Perspectives on Employment
35:19 Trust in Economic Data and Its Implications
36:29 AI Tools in Recruitment: Indeed vs. LinkedIn
46:52 Acquisitions in Recruitment Tech: Shaker vs. Radancy
53:57 The Future of Autonomous Vehicles and Job Displacement

OpenAI Takes Aim at Jobs : Indeed, LinkedIn Bring the Bots : BLS Chaos

Shredded: OpenAI, Throxy, Velocity Global, Shaker Recruitment Marketing, exaqueo, Remuner, & More

Tim Sackett is back, and he’s not here to sugarcoat your broken recruiting process. From running a family staffing biz (yes, his mom started it—nepotism FTW) to launching the HR Tech 100 Fund, Sackett’s got opinions, and Chad & Cheese are here to poke the bear.

Inside this episode:

 
Why most HR tech still runs on vaporware and broken promises

 
The Sackett philosophy: If you suck at recruiting, AI just helps you suck faster

 
“Scale Your Suck” – his accidental book title that SHRM will never publish

 
Why recruiters might have 18 months before AI eats their lunch (and their jobs)

 
How execs keep saying “do more strategic work” when nobody knows WTF that actually means

 
The coming extinction-level event for recruiters who think “tallest dwarf” = top talent

This isn’t a kumbaya “AI will save us all” chat. It’s Sackett unplugged—equal parts brutal honesty, dad jokes, and career counseling for recruiters about to be replaced by bots that actually give candidates feedback.

Grab a stiff drink. Season 3 is here, and it’s coming for your job description.

Scale Your Suck: Sackett on AI and Talent

From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Episode

03:52 Corporate Drama: CEO Dismissals and Scandals

06:10 A Tribute to Greg Louganis: Olympic Legacy and Challenges

08:53 The Fading Glory of Olympians

09:32 International Students and the Impact of Policy Changes

13:15 Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities

15:34 Fantasy Football Draft Recap

19:14 Closing Thoughts and Future Topics

19:58 Google's Search Monopoly and Market Dynamics

22:42 The Impact of Workforce Imbalance

26:04 The Future of Google Search and Diversification

28:50 Recruitics Acquires Change State: A Strategic Move?

34:31 Meta's Leadership Shakeup and AI Focus

48:22 AI in Fast Food: Taco Bell's Experimentation

Google Wins, Meta Spins, and a Recruitics Fail?

Shredded: InstaLILY, Welcome Tech, Darwin AI, Recruitics, Change State, Laborup, Hubert, & More

What happens when you mix SmartRecruiters, a global AI pivot, and a comms pro who loves to “shake shit up”? You get Allyn Bailey dropping truth bombs on everything from why legacy ATS platforms should be left in a museum next to floppy disks, to how scheduling interviews is apparently the Mount Everest of HR tech problems.

Joel and Chad dig into:

 
Why “feature bloat” is killing platforms faster than a buffet kills willpower

 
The rise of AI agents that make every TA leader feel “special” (just like their mom told them)

 
How SmartRecruiters is “releasing the Kraken” on AI adoption—while trying not to terrify every compliance officer on Earth

 
Why Kenya and Eastern Europe are quietly kicking everyone else’s ass on AI innovation

 
And yes… the most celebrated use case for AI in recruiting is still… scheduling.

It’s part therapy session, part roast, part masterclass in how to burn down old TA processes without getting fired.

Strap in. Season 3 of The AI Sessions is here.

AI in Hiring: Trust, Safety, and Why Compliance Freaks Out

Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl.

Expect:
-Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel-Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment-Fantasy football team names that would make your grandma blush-Workday dragging Paradox into the modern era-Employ Inc.’s CEO carousel—because why settle for one clown when you can have the whole circus?-Dayforce’s $12.3B private equity soap opera-Meta’s AI drama (aka “Zuck being Zuck”)

It’s business, it’s football, it’s chaos—and it’s all drenched in the unfiltered sarcasm you love.

1500 episodes later, the boys are still slinging takes hotter than a Browns fan’s rage.

Chapters: 

00:00Celebrating 1500 Episodes

01:24Reflections on Current Events

05:53The Future of Restaurants

06:31AI in Business: The Human Factor

09:38Travis Kelsey and Celebrity Culture

11:14Fantasy Football Team Names

18:08Workday Acquires Paradox: A Game Changer

22:18The Rise and Fall of Jobbing

26:05Workday's Strategic Moves in AI

30:18The Future of Recruitment Tech

32:41Leadership Changes in Employee Tech

40:24Dayforce's Private Equity Acquisition

45:25Meta's AI Controversies and Hiring Pause

Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Workday Buys Paradox | HR Tech’s Biggest AI Move Yet?

Maia – no, not that Mya, the chatbot – brings its game to the Firing Squad. With a founder who cut his teeth at Indeed, Jobcase and The Muse, it’s bound to get interesting. Enjoy this Talroo exclusive.

Firing Squad: Maia

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