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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays.

Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Scotland’s deep-fried-pizza poet Stephen McGrath. Loud Americans, entitled tourists, and the four-day work week—this one’s got more punch than a Glasgow nightclub at 2 a.m.

👉 Press play. Europe’s never been so dangerously entertaining.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome

04:15 Shout Outs and Celebrations

11:11 Upwork's Strategic Acquisitions

22:52 The Future of Staffing and Technology

38:29 Denmark's Deepfake Legislation

44:24 The Four-Day Work Week Discussion

Upwork’s €20M Bupty Bet, Denmark’s Deepfake Crackdown, and Europe’s 4-Day Work Week

🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast:

 
AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs 

 
Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume 

 
Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind) 

 
And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple 

It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you question humanity.

Chapters

 
00:00 - Intro: Chad and Cheese, the HR comedy duo you didn’t know you needed.

 
02:23 - College Drop-Off Diaries: Tears, tuition, and existential dread.

 
05:23 - AI in Hiring: When algorithms discriminate worse than your uncle at Thanksgiving.

 
17:15 - AI Recruitment: Is it saving HR or just ghosting candidates with flair?

 
23:14 - AI Hiring Outlook: Crystal balls and code, what’s next?

 
24:30 - AI Marketplaces: New risks, same old corporate facepalm.

 
26:20 - AI Governance: Trying to tame the tech beast in talent acquisition.

 
29:30 - Upwork’s Lifted: Enterprise staffing with a side of swagger.

 
36:17 - Deel and SiriusXM/iCIMS: AI innovations meet legal oopsies.

 
43:33 - Government Funds Shipbuilding: Because who doesn’t want to sail into 1850?

 
49:41 - Humans + AI: Recruitment’s new rom-com, minus the happy ending.

Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Upwork & Indeed Target Randstad

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Shredded: Visage, Rolebot, Workday, Upwork, Professional.me, Deel, & More

Domino’s isn’t just delivering pizza in 30 minutes or less anymore—they’re trying to deliver candidates, too. In this episode, we sit down with Matt King, Director of HR Tech at Domino’s, to talk AI, ATS drama, and why franchisees always have “better ideas” than corporate.

From killing off Kenexa (RIP, nobody misses you) to jumping into bed with SmartRecruiters, Domino’s is betting big on speed, automation, and a sprinkle of chatbot charm. Matt spills on:

 
Why hiring at Domino’s must be as fast as ordering a pepperoni with extra cheese.

 
How chatbots went from clunky decision trees to almost-human assistants (minus the dad jokes).

 
What happens when franchisees get in a room with vendors.

 
The eternal struggle between human touch and “just let the damn bot send the background check reminder.”

 
And yes—we even asked about the Noid. Because if Domino’s doesn’t bring him back as a recruiting chatbot, what are we even doing here?

It’s tech, pizza, and questionable morals—just another day on The Chad & Cheese Podcast: AI Sessions.

Domino’s HR Tech Transformation with Matt King

Hold onto your headphones, folks, because the Chad and Cheese Podcast is serving up a hilarious, hot-mess buffet of insights that’ll leave you laughing and maybe a little worried about your career! 

This episode, your hosts sling snarky banter like baristas tossing espresso shots, breezing through early chit-chat about travel woes, Coldplay’s drama-fest, LinkedIn’s questionable career tips, sports shout-outs, Walmart’s employee discount PR stunt, free swag, and fantasy football. 

But the real meat hits after the 15-minute mark, where they dive into the chaos facing recent grads—think degrees collecting dust while the job market laughs. The future of work gets a roasting, with the creator economy shining as the cool kid at the career fair, while AI and economic shenanigans threaten to swipe jobs faster than you can say “pivot.” 

Teaching’s future? It’s AI’s new playground. Silicon Valley’s traded ping-pong tables for “purpose,” but don’t get too cozy—tech employment’s a rollercoaster, and global competition’s got everyone sweating. 

Job boards like ZipRecruiter are wheezing in the dust, outrun by AI, and in a plot twist nobody saw coming, the hosts ponder if newspaper job ads might stage a retro comeback. It’s a wild, witty ride through the workforce’s new reality—adapt or get left behind, and maybe grab a newspaper just in case.

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Banter

00:29 - Travel and Cultural Observations

02:26 - Coldplay Drama and LinkedIn Insights

04:12 - Shout Outs and Celebrating Progress in Sports

09:20 - Walmart's Employee Discount Initiative

11:00 - Free Stuff and Promotions

12:10 - Travel Plans and Upcoming Events

13:14 - Fantasy Football and Sports Culture

14:26 - Challenges for Recent Graduates

18:30 - The Future of Work and the Creator Economy

21:04 - The Impact of AI and Economic Factors on Employment

22:53 - The Future of Teaching and AI

24:49 - Silicon Valley's Shift: From Perks to Purpose

27:16 - The Changing Landscape of Tech Employment

30:21 - Global Competition and the Tech Industry

32:03 - The Decline of Job Boards and the Rise of AI

39:34 - Reviving Newspaper Job Ads: A Retro Solution?

48:27 - Closing Thoughts and Dad Jokes

It's the End of Entry Level Jobs as We Know It (and I Feel Fine) : Silicon Valley Gets Hard

Shredded: ZipRecruiter, DHI Group, AgileATS, Kelly Services, Darwinbox, Upwork, Bubty & More

In this episode, the boys chat with Sarah Needleman, Business Insider’s Leadership and Workplace Correspondent, formerly of the Wall Street Journal for 23 years. Her article, “If You Think Your Job Is Hard Right Now, Try Working in HR,” dives into HR’s brutal post-2020 landscape: mass layoffs (like Microsoft’s 9,000 cuts) burden HR with soul-crushing terminations, as Evan Loveless shared, facing tears and dashed hopes. 

AI automation shrinks HR teams, incivility spikes with employee backlash, and return-to-office mandates spark resentment over commutes and fairness. ICE raids and immigration fears—amped by Trump’s “big beautiful bill”—disrupt workplaces, with HR crafting response plans. 

Political uncertainty, like tariffs pausing hires, and H-1B visa exits to Canada/Europe strain talent pools. Interest in HR jobs is waning on Indeed, hinting at future shortages. Yet, many HR pros see this as a “calling” to shine via support and outplacement.

Why Working in HR Sucks Right Now with Sarah Needleman

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman—HR tech's dynamic duo of snark and smarts—serve up a buffet of industry drama with their trademark banter that'll have you chuckling harder than a recruiter dodging ghosting complaints. 

They start by painting a gloomy economic picture, complete with workforce imbalances that feel like a bad Tinder match, plus a heartfelt nod to breastfeeding support at work (because who doesn't love a good "pumping up the team" pun?). 

Things get real with layoff laments, treating employees like yesterday's LinkedIn spam. Shout-outs go personal with fantasy football eulogies (RIP to those dream teams) and event plugs, alongside travel tips for jet-setting talent hunters—pro tip: pack extra patience for airport security feels. 

The meaty bits? 

SAP snapping up SmartRecruiters like it's Black Friday shopping for ATS upgrades, pondering if AI recruiting will finally make hiring less of a dumpster fire, and how it'll mesh (or clash) with SuccessFactors. 

Earnings chit-chat skewers Indeed and LinkedIn's numbers, roasting Indeed's Branded Boost as a "blast from the past" that's more regression than revolution. Wrapping up, they dissect the Workday lawsuit's AI bias bombshell—because nothing says "fun" like robots playing favorites—and the eerie rise of virtual hotel check-ins, where your front desk clerk might be outsourcing from halfway around the world. 

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction and Mood Setting

02:27 - Economic Concerns and Workforce Imbalances

05:23 - Breastfeeding Support in the Workplace

08:15 - Employee Treatment and Layoffs

11:13 - Fantasy Football and Personal Tributes

14:00 - Upcoming Events and Travel Info

16:59 - SmartRecruiters Acquisition by SAP

18:26 - Future of ATS and AI in Recruitment

24:16 - The Future of Success Factors and Smart Recruiters

28:51 - Earnings Season Insights: Indeed and LinkedIn

36:23 - Indeed's New Branded Boost: A Step Backward?

42:03 - Legal Implications of AI in Hiring: The Workday Case

46:33 - The Rise of Virtual Check-Ins in Hospitality

SAP says BUY BUY BUY

Shredded: Sparrow, Wingspan, Bullhorn, TargetRecruit, Tako, Workday, Recruit Holdings & More

In this episode, the boys chat with Jeff Pole, the big brain behind Warden AI, for a no-holds-barred chat about AI bias in talent acquisition. 

They sliced and diced a juicy report comparing AI’s quirks to good ol’ human prejudice, serving up some spicy legal takes on what happens when robots play HR. 

The trio threw shade at sloppy AI systems, stressing that vendors and employers better team up like superheroes to keep things fair and square—or risk a legal smackdown. 

They also peeked into the crystal ball for AI’s hiring glow-up, while side-eyeing the political circus messing with AI rules and preaching the gospel of audits that go beyond just checking boxes for sex and race. 

Chapters

00:00 - Introduction to AI in Talent Acquisition

02:34 - Understanding AI Bias in Recruitment

05:29 - Comparing AI and Human Bias

08:28 - Legal Implications of AI in Hiring

11:24 - Vendor Responsibility and Compliance - Mobley v. Workday

14:17 - The Future of AI in Talent Acquisition

17:09 - Political Influences on AI Regulations

20:19 - Diversity and Inclusion in AI Audits

23:13 - Predictions for AI and Bias in the Workplace

Bias: AI vs. Human - Mobley v. Workday is Just the Beginning

How does a Cult Brand lose its luster? Losing Cult Brand status and then making a comeback is not an easy task. Ellie Doty, CMO of Chili's Grill and Bar, tells a brand story that ends in a hashtag. Yes, I said a hashtag! Oh, and Cheesman sucks-up to one of his favorite eating destinations like never before. It's embarrassing.

Cult Brand: Ellie Doty, CMO at Chili's

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