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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Tim Sackett is back, and he’s not here to sugarcoat your broken recruiting process. From running a family staffing biz (yes, his mom started it—nepotism FTW) to launching the HR Tech 100 Fund, Sackett’s got opinions, and Chad & Cheese are here to poke the bear.

Inside this episode:

 
Why most HR tech still runs on vaporware and broken promises

 
The Sackett philosophy: If you suck at recruiting, AI just helps you suck faster

 
“Scale Your Suck” – his accidental book title that SHRM will never publish

 
Why recruiters might have 18 months before AI eats their lunch (and their jobs)

 
How execs keep saying “do more strategic work” when nobody knows WTF that actually means

 
The coming extinction-level event for recruiters who think “tallest dwarf” = top talent

This isn’t a kumbaya “AI will save us all” chat. It’s Sackett unplugged—equal parts brutal honesty, dad jokes, and career counseling for recruiters about to be replaced by bots that actually give candidates feedback.

Grab a stiff drink. Season 3 is here, and it’s coming for your job description.

Scale Your Suck: Sackett on AI and Talent

From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Episode

03:52 Corporate Drama: CEO Dismissals and Scandals

06:10 A Tribute to Greg Louganis: Olympic Legacy and Challenges

08:53 The Fading Glory of Olympians

09:32 International Students and the Impact of Policy Changes

13:15 Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities

15:34 Fantasy Football Draft Recap

19:14 Closing Thoughts and Future Topics

19:58 Google's Search Monopoly and Market Dynamics

22:42 The Impact of Workforce Imbalance

26:04 The Future of Google Search and Diversification

28:50 Recruitics Acquires Change State: A Strategic Move?

34:31 Meta's Leadership Shakeup and AI Focus

48:22 AI in Fast Food: Taco Bell's Experimentation

Google Wins, Meta Spins, and a Recruitics Fail?

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

Shredded: InstaLILY, Welcome Tech, Darwin AI, Recruitics, Change State, Laborup, Hubert, & More

What happens when you mix SmartRecruiters, a global AI pivot, and a comms pro who loves to “shake shit up”? You get Allyn Bailey dropping truth bombs on everything from why legacy ATS platforms should be left in a museum next to floppy disks, to how scheduling interviews is apparently the Mount Everest of HR tech problems.

Joel and Chad dig into:

 
Why “feature bloat” is killing platforms faster than a buffet kills willpower

 
The rise of AI agents that make every TA leader feel “special” (just like their mom told them)

 
How SmartRecruiters is “releasing the Kraken” on AI adoption—while trying not to terrify every compliance officer on Earth

 
Why Kenya and Eastern Europe are quietly kicking everyone else’s ass on AI innovation

 
And yes… the most celebrated use case for AI in recruiting is still… scheduling.

It’s part therapy session, part roast, part masterclass in how to burn down old TA processes without getting fired.

Strap in. Season 3 of The AI Sessions is here.

AI in Hiring: Trust, Safety, and Why Compliance Freaks Out

Strap on your helmets and tighten those chinstraps, Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman are celebrating their 1,500th episode with more swagger than a Cracker Barrel parking lot brawl.

Expect:
-Trump cosplaying as a mob boss at Intel and Cracker Barrel-Kelce + Swift rumors getting the “wink-wink” treatment-Fantasy football team names that would make your grandma blush-Workday dragging Paradox into the modern era-Employ Inc.’s CEO carousel—because why settle for one clown when you can have the whole circus?-Dayforce’s $12.3B private equity soap opera-Meta’s AI drama (aka “Zuck being Zuck”)

It’s business, it’s football, it’s chaos—and it’s all drenched in the unfiltered sarcasm you love.

1500 episodes later, the boys are still slinging takes hotter than a Browns fan’s rage.

Chapters: 

00:00Celebrating 1500 Episodes

01:24Reflections on Current Events

05:53The Future of Restaurants

06:31AI in Business: The Human Factor

09:38Travis Kelsey and Celebrity Culture

11:14Fantasy Football Team Names

18:08Workday Acquires Paradox: A Game Changer

22:18The Rise and Fall of Jobbing

26:05Workday's Strategic Moves in AI

30:18The Future of Recruitment Tech

32:41Leadership Changes in Employee Tech

40:24Dayforce's Private Equity Acquisition

45:25Meta's AI Controversies and Hiring Pause

Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Workday Buys Paradox | HR Tech’s Biggest AI Move Yet?

Shredded: Dayforce, Pintarnya, Folks, Glow Talents, ZipRecruiter, Workday, Paradox & More

Marriott’s Tyler Weeks joins Chad & Cheese to unpack what it’s like running HR for a million humans (and possibly a few Roombas).

Expect:

 
Ritz-Carlton ghosting Joel harder than his prom date.

 
Why Marriott’s HR is basically 9,000 mom-and-pop shops in a trench coat.

 
The shocking discovery that AI doesn’t make great recruiters greater—it just stops the bad ones from lighting themselves on fire.

 
CFO ROI math so sketchy it belongs in a late-night infomercial.

 
And the big AI fix for fake résumés and deepfakes? Drag ‘em into the lobby for an old-fashioned, in-person interview.

This is hospitality meets HR Tech chaos—and Tyler’s got the room service order. 🍸

Listen :)

How Marriott Tackles AI, Complexity, and Fake Candidates

Forget the Eiffel Tower, kids—we’re climbing the recruitment rollercoaster instead. Upwork’s shopping spree in Holland (Bupty? Buptie? Bupkis?), Denmark’s going full Face/Off to keep Nic Cage off Viggo’s jawline, and the UK is suddenly allergic to Fridays.

Joel’s out dropping Cole at college, so Chad is joined by Belgium’s royal pain Lieven and Scotland’s deep-fried-pizza poet Stephen McGrath. Loud Americans, entitled tourists, and the four-day work week—this one’s got more punch than a Glasgow nightclub at 2 a.m.

👉 Press play. Europe’s never been so dangerously entertaining.

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome

04:15 Shout Outs and Celebrations

11:11 Upwork's Strategic Acquisitions

22:52 The Future of Staffing and Technology

38:29 Denmark's Deepfake Legislation

44:24 The Four-Day Work Week Discussion

Upwork’s €20M Bupty Bet, Denmark’s Deepfake Crackdown, and Europe’s 4-Day Work Week

🎧 This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast:

 
AI hiring lawsuits pile up faster than unread LinkedIn DMs 

 
Upwork tries on staffing’s Blockbuster costume 

 
Deel debuts creepy digital clones (no, not the cool Star Wars kind) 

 
And Joel cries in Bloomington while Chad rants about Tim Apple 

It’s HR tech, corporate drama, and just enough bad jokes to make you question humanity.

Chapters

 
00:00 - Intro: Chad and Cheese, the HR comedy duo you didn’t know you needed.

 
02:23 - College Drop-Off Diaries: Tears, tuition, and existential dread.

 
05:23 - AI in Hiring: When algorithms discriminate worse than your uncle at Thanksgiving.

 
17:15 - AI Recruitment: Is it saving HR or just ghosting candidates with flair?

 
23:14 - AI Hiring Outlook: Crystal balls and code, what’s next?

 
24:30 - AI Marketplaces: New risks, same old corporate facepalm.

 
26:20 - AI Governance: Trying to tame the tech beast in talent acquisition.

 
29:30 - Upwork’s Lifted: Enterprise staffing with a side of swagger.

 
36:17 - Deel and SiriusXM/iCIMS: AI innovations meet legal oopsies.

 
43:33 - Government Funds Shipbuilding: Because who doesn’t want to sail into 1850?

 
49:41 - Humans + AI: Recruitment’s new rom-com, minus the happy ending.

Grab your popcorn and a sense of humor—this episode’s a wild ride! Subscribe and checkout the eye candy at YouTube.com/@chadcheese and visit www.chadcheese.com today.

Upwork & Indeed Target Randstad

Shredded: Visage, Rolebot, Workday, Upwork, Professional.me, Deel, & More

Fiasco is a cool name, but what does it mean? Chaos. So what's in a name and does it really matter? How do customers and employees engage with the BRAND, not the name? James Boettcher joins The Chad & Cheese Podcast again to dive deeper into BRAND and also the RIGHTEOUS stuff that's just around the corner. Brought to you in close partnership with Smashfly. Let SmashFly help tell your story and keep relationships at the heart of your CRM. For more information, visit SmashFly.com today.

A Righteous Fiasco

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