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Each week, comedians and amateur detectives Liza Treyger and Kara Klenk break down episodes of NBC’s Law & Order: SVU, take a deep dive into the true crimes they're based on and interview on-screen talent, ranging from big stars to joggers who find the body. These are their stories. Dun dun!

Tune in as they discuss all things not only Law & Order: SVU, but unfiltered hot takes on entertainment, TV, pop culture and more! Members of the elite squad like Kelli Giddish, BD Wong and Diane Neal have previously guested along with many more! Plus, the two friends frequently take to the stage with live shows featuring a PowerPoint, games and lots of laughs. Go to http://thatsmesseduplive.com or check their Instagram @thatsmesseduppod to check tour dates and get episode homework!

That’s Messed Up: An SVU Podcast is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark, I Said No Gifts!, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Smoked” (Season 12, Episode 24), the horrific crimes of the murderer Marvin Gabrion, and interview the fantastic Hayley McFarland.
 
SOURCES:
 
Wikipedia - Murder of Nicole duFresne
 
CBS News
 
The Atlantic
 
Oxygen
 
Wikipedia - Marvin Gabrion
 
Free Republic
 
MLive Media Group 1
 
MLive Media Group 2
 
The United States Courts of Appeals
 
Detroit Free Press 
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Everytown for Gun Safety
 
Next week’s episode will be “Parents' Nightmare" (Season 16, Episode 22). 
 
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Smoked w/ Hayley McFarland

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Parents' Nightmare” (Season 16, Episode 22) and discuss the horribly weird staged kidnapping in Lincoln County, Missouri.
 
SOURCES:
 
CNN
 
The Guardian
 
The Detroit News
 
Columbia Daily Tribune
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Talking About Stranger Safety
 
Next week’s episode will be “Game” (Season 6, Episode 14). 
 
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Parents' Nightmare

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Game” (Season 6, Episode 14) and dissect the Grand Theft Auto-inspired murders by Devin Moore.
 
SOURCES:
 
CBS News
 
Wikipedia - Strickland v. Sony
 
Wikipedia - Devin Moore (murderer)
 
Kotaku
 
Chicago Tribune
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Gaming Addicts Anonymous
 
Next week’s episode will be “Nationwide Manhunt" (Season 17, Episode 14). 
 
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Game

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the episode “Prodigy” (Season 3, Episode 13) and the crimes of the serial killer-obsessed serial killer Jason Massey.
 
SOURCES:
 
McCready Law Group
 
Wikipedia - Jason Massey
 
Chron
 
Crime Library
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
 
Next week’s episode will be “Lust" (Season 4, Episode 4). 
 
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Prodigy

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Lust” (Season 4, Episode 4) and discuss the crimes and secret affairs of wife murderer Dirk Greineder.
 
SOURCES:
 
A Murder in Wellesley
 
CBS news
 
History
 
Cape Cod Times 1
 
Cape Cod Times 2
 
SouthCoast Today
 
The New York Times
 
Seacoast Online
 
The Swellesley Report
 
The Washington Post
 
Chicago Tribune
 
Orlando Sentinel
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Contact Tracing - CDC
 
Next week’s episode will be “Baggage” (Season 10, Episode 18). 
 
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Lust

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Baggage” (Season 10, Episode 18) and dissect the horrific crimes of Francisco de Assis Pereira (a.k.a. "The Park Maniac").
 
SOURCES:
 
The Park Maniac: The Untold Story (2024)
 
Wikipedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira
 
Murderpedia - Francisco de Assis Pereira
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Displaced Black Families GoFundMe Directory
 
ARC Firefighter Fund
 
Next week’s episode will be “Thought Criminal" (Season 15, Episode 23). 
 
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Baggage

Today, Kara and Liza dissect the episode “Thought Criminal” (Season 15, Episodes 23) and discuss the bizarre and disturbing real-life behavior of Gilberto Valle aka the “Cannibal Cop.”
 
SOURCES:
 
Reuters
 
The New York Times 1
 
The New York Times 2
 
Wikipedia - United States v. Valle
 
WABC-TV
 
New York Daily News 1
 
New York Daily News 2
 
Oxygen
 
Good Reads
 
The Week
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Trans Lifeline and Thought Crimes: The Case of the Cannibal Cop
 
Next week’s episode will be “Manic” (Season 5, Episode 2). 
 
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Thought Criminal

This week, Liza and Kara discuss the ever-relevant episode “Manic” (Season 5, Episode 2) and the Franklin v. Parke-Davis lawsuit involving the neuropathy drug gabapentin.
 
SOURCES:
 
The New York Times 1
 
The New York Times 2
 
The New York Times 3
 
Wikipedia - Columbine High School massacre
 
The Denver Post
 
The Washington Post
 
National Library of Medicine
 
Wikipedia - Franklin v. Parke-Davis
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Brady: United Against Gun Violence
 
Next week’s episode will be “Solving for the Unknowns" (Season 21, Episode 19). 
 
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Manic

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Solving for the Unknowns” (Season 21, Episode 19) and discuss the Ian Jurgesen case and the alleged roofie-ing of women’s drinks at a Seattle nightclub.
 
SOURCES:
 
KIRO-TV 1
 
KIRO-TV 2
 
EDM.com
 
Emerald City EDM
 
Dance Music NW
 
Daily Mail
 
Daily Mirror
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
Tips for Safer Online Dating and Dating App Use - RAINN
 
Next week’s episode will be “Monster's Legacy” (Season 14, Episode 13). 
 
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Episode 219 - Solving for the Unknowns

This week, Liza and Kara recap the episode “Monster's Legacy” (Season 14, Episode 13) and dissect the horrific crimes of defrocked Episcopal priest and child pornographer Claudius Vermilye.
 
SOURCES:
 
The Washington Post 1
 
The Washington Post 2
 
Wikipedia - John Geoghan
 
CBS News
 
Wikipedia - Claudius Vermilye
 
The Dallas Morning News
 
Slate
 
WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:
 
The NO MORE Global Directory
 
Next week’s episode will be “A Single Life" (Season 1, Episode 2). 
 
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Episode 220 - Monster's Legacy

This episode, Liza and Kara cover “Conscience” (Season 6, Episode 6), adolescent murderer Eric M. Smith, and chat with SVU executive producer and showrunner (seasons 2-12), Neal Baer. 

SOURCES:

CBS News

The New York Times

Democrat & Chronicle

The Steuben Courier Advocate

Wikipedia

WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:

“When Your Child is a Psychopath” - Story by Barbara Bradley Hagerty: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/

Next week’s episode will be “Institutional Fail” (Season 17, Episode 4). 
 
 

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Conscience w/ Neal Baer

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