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Broken Cycle Media

Something Was Wrong is an award-winning docuseries about survivors' discovery, trauma, and recovery from crime and abuse.

Something Was Wrong

*Content Warning: false reporting, sexual assault, rape, sex trafficking, fraud, suicidal ideation, scams, disability abuse, false reporting, harassment, financial abuse, suicidal ideation. 

Sources: 

MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/

Elwood woman faces multiple felonies in connection with ongoing rental scheme, by Logan Gay, WTHR.com staff, WTHR News: https://www.wthr.com/article/news/crime/elwood-woman-arrested-for-ongoing-rental-scheme-megan-stoner-fishers-indiana/531-2d3b11fa-5c70-4f05-8ea4-0be0c37cf852 

Fishers woman charged in rental fraud; 3 scammed in signing lease for same Home by: Izzy Karpinski, Fox59: https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/fishers-woman-charged-in-rental-fraud-3-scammed-in-signing-lease-for-same-home/ 

Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 

Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner 

Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN 

Megan Stoner Chronicles, X @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan 

Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos/status/1651260809362784261 

Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 

Resources:

Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Theme Song & Artwork: 

Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. 

NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ 

NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.com

Gibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ 

Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusic

Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ 

The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart

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S22 Ep8: We Got Her!

Sources:

As Nationwide Fraud Losses Top $10 Billion in 2023, FTC Steps Up Efforts to Protect the Public. (2024, February 9). Federal Trade Commission. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/02/nationwide-fraud-losses-top-10-billion-2023-ftc-steps-efforts-protect-public

BBB Tip: 10 steps to avoid scams. (2024, June 21). Better Business Bureau. https://www.bbb.org/article/tips/8767-bbb-tips-10-steps-to-avoid-scams

The Latest Scams You Need to Be Aware of in 2024, By DeNicola, L. (2023, December 30). https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/the-latest-scams-you-need-to-aware-of/

​​Empowering Fraud Fighters. (n.d.). Financial Industry Regulatory Authority Foundation. https://www.finrafoundation.org/networks-we-strengthen/fighting-fraud

Internet Crime Report 2023 by The Federal Bureau of Investigations. (2024). In Internet Crime Complaint Center. https://www.ic3.gov/Media/PDF/AnnualReport/2023_IC3Report.pdf

 National Center for Victims of Crime, Financial Crime Resource Center: https://victimsofcrime.org/financial-crime-resource-center/

 Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, FinCEN Resource Center: https://www.fincen.gov/fincen-resource-center

Fletcher, E. (2023, October 6). Social Media. Federal Trade Commission. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/data-visualizations/data-spotlight/2023/10/social-media-golden-goose-scammers

Identity Fraud Cost Americans $43 Billion in 2023. (2024, April 10). American Association of Retired People. https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-2024/identity-fraud-report.html

Is Fraud Always a Federal Crime? (2024, March 20). Stechschulte Nell. https://www.tpatrialattorneys.com/fraud-always-federal-crime/

Criminal Consumer Fraud, Must the Goals of Deterrence and Compensation Be Mutually Exclusive? By The American Journal of Criminal Law, Kirschner, N. M. (1979). https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/criminal-consumer-fraud-must-goals-deterrence-and-compensation-be

Recovering From Online Fraud. National Crime Victim Law Institute: https://ncvli.org/recovering-from-financial-fraud-and-identity-theft-services-for-victims/#:~:text=%E2%80%93Identity%20Theft%20Resource%20Center%20

What Are Some Common Types of Scams? (2024, March 13). Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. https://www.consumerfinance.gov/ask-cfpb/what-are-some-common-types-of-scams-en-2092/

Resources:

FBI Internet Complaint Center: https://www.ic3.gov/

FBI Tip Center: http://tips.fbi.gov

BBB Scam Risk Calculator: https://www.bbb.org/all/scam-prevention/risk-calculator

Cybercrime Support Network: https://fightcybercrime.org/

Identity Theft Resource Center: https://www.idtheftcenter.org/

Financial Industry Regulatory Authority: https://www.finra.org/

Report Fraud to the Federal Trade Commission: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/

For additional resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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The Data Points cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart.

Data Points: Cons, Schemes, & Fraud

*Content Warning: false death of a child, vehicular death, false reporting, fraud, suicidal ideation, scams, disability abuse, false reporting, harassment, stalking. 

Sources: 

MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/

Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 

Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner 

Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN 

Megan Stoner Chronicles, X @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan 

Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos/status/1651260809362784261 

Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 

Resources:

Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Theme Song & Artwork: 

Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. 

NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ 

NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.com

Gibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ 

Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusic

Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ 

The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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S22 Ep9: How Dare You

*Content Warning: false death of a child, vehicular death, medical trauma, false reporting, fraud, scams, suicidal ideation, disability abuse, and harassment.

Sources: 

MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/

Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 

Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner 

Alix Brewster on X: @alixbrewster https://x.com/alixbrewster 

Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN 

Megan Stoner Chronicles on X: @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan 

Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos

Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 

Resources:

Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Theme Song & Artwork: 

Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. 

NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ 

NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.com

Gibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ 

Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusic

Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ 

The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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S22 Ep10: Indiana Delvey

*Content Warning: false death of a child, stalking, sexual assault, false reporting, abduction, vehicular death, fraud, scams, suicidal ideation, threats of harm, disability abuse, and harassment.

Sources: 

Forensic Foreplay. (2023, May 5). [Video]. Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/ForensicForeplay/videos/939338244180665

MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/

Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 

Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner 

Alix Brewster on X: @alixbrewster https://x.com/alixbrewster 

Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN 

Megan Stoner Chronicles on X: @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan 

Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos

Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 

Resources:

Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Theme Song & Artwork: 

Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. 

NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ 

NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.com

Gibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ 

Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusic

Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ 

The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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Follow Tiffany Reese:

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S22 Ep11: Double Down (Finale Part 1)

*Content Warning: false death of a child, stalking, sexual assault, false reporting, abduction, vehicular death, fraud, scams, suicidal ideation, threats of harm, disability abuse, and harassment.

Sources: 

MyCase Indiana: https://public.courts.in.gov/

Hamilton County Inmate Records - Stoner, Megan Elizabeth: https://secure2.hamiltoncounty.in.gov/inmates2/Jail/Inmate/Detail/-1282383 

Protect the community from ongoing criminal activity by revoking the bond of Megan Stoner, Change.Org Petition: https://www.change.org/p/protect-the-community-from-ongoing-criminal-activity-by-revoking-the-bond-of-megan-stoner 

Alix Brewster on X: @alixbrewster https://x.com/alixbrewster 

Justin Sexton on X: @JustinSextonIN https://x.com/JustinSextonIN 

Megan Stoner Chronicles on X: @ChroniclesMegan: https://x.com/ChroniclesMegan 

Chloe Anagnos on X: @ChloeAnagnos https://x.com/ChloeAnagnos

Don't Waste This F*cking Podcast: The Story of Megan Stoner, by Amanda Peterson, Excelsior Studios: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-waste-this-f-cking-podcast-the-story-of-megan-stoner/id1757463535 

Resources:

Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Theme Song & Artwork: 

Thank you to NeonHoney and GIBBANEZ for covering our theme song, Glad Rags’s original song U Think U this season. 

NeonHoney’s IG: https://www.instagram.com/neonhoneymusic/ 

NeonHoney’s Website: https://neonhoneymusic.com

Gibbanez IG: https://www.instagram.com/@gibbanezmusic/ 

Gibbanez Linktree: https://linktr.ee/gibbanezmusic

Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/ 

The S22 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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S22 Ep12: Tip of the Iceberg (Finale Part 2)

*Content warning: stalking, cyberstalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, domestic violence, and murder.

Something Was Wrong Season 19 featuring Amy's episodes was released on January 11th, 2024 and finished airing February 8th of the same year. In the five episodes, Amy's tenacity and resiliency became resoundingly clear as she and her loved ones recounted all they faced amidst years of stalking and cyber stalking. Through what felt like a never-ending criminal justice and legal battle, Amy would eventually put her stalker, Morrison, behind bars, and she would share in hopes of finding more of his victims. She returns today to share about all that's come next in the parole process since Season 19 ended, and all that she continues to work for in honor of other victims of stalking. The Broken Cycle Media team is immensely grateful for Amy's continued candidness and advocacy, as well as the time, energy, and awareness she's offered our listeners.

Something Was Wrong Season 19: https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/season/19/

For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

S19: WCN Presents: [Amy] S19 Updates

*Content Warning: sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexual violence, rape, suicidal ideation, and mental illness.

Resources:

Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network: RAINN.org

1 in 6 Organization: 1in6.org

1 in 6 Organization Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/1in6org

National Sexual Violence Resource Center: https://www.nsvrc.org/find-help

National Sexual Assault Hotline (1800-656-4763): https://www.rainn.org/resources

Sources:

The 1 in 6 Statistic. (n.d.). One in Six Organization. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://1in6.org/statistic/

Cal Poly Humboldt & North Coast Rape Crisis Team. (n.d.). Supporting Survivors. Sexualized Violence Statistics. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://supportingsurvivors.humboldt.edu/statistic

Chen LP, Murad MH, Paras ML, Colbenson KM, Sattler AL, Goranson EN, Elamin MB, Seime RJ, Shinozaki G, Prokop LJ, Zirakzadeh A. Sexual abuse and lifetime diagnosis of psychiatric disorders: systematic review and meta-analysis. Mayo Clin Proc. 2010 Jul;85(7):618-29. doi: 10.4065/mcp.2009.0583. Epub 2010 May 10. PMID: 20458101; PMCID: PMC2894717. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2894717/

March 2020 Delayed Disclosure: A Factsheet Based on Cutting-Edge Research on Child Sexual Abuse. (2020). Montana Legislature. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://leg.mt.gov/bills/2023/Minutes/Senate/Exhibits/230227JUSa3.pdf

T. Muller, R., PhD. (2020, October 15). The Invisible Male Victims of Sexual Trauma. Psychology Today. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-trauma/202010/the-invisible-male-victims-sexual-trauma

National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey: 2015 Data Brief - Updated Release. (2018). National Center for Injury Prevention and Control Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/2021-04/2015data-brief508.pdf

National Sexual Violence Resource Center. (n.d.). Sexual Assault: Statistics. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics

Petersson, C.C., Plantin, L. Breaking with Norms of Masculinity: Men Making Sense of Their Experience of Sexual Assault. Clin Soc Work J 47, 372–383 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10615-019-00699-y

Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network. (n.d.). Perpetrators of Sexual Violence: Statistics. RAINN. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://www.rainn.org/statistics/perpetrators-sexual-violence

Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network. (n.d.-b). Sexual Assault of Men and Boys: Statistics. Retrieved June 26, 2024, from https://www.rainn.org/articles/sexual-assault-men-and-boys

U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. (n.d.). National Center for PTSD: Sexual Assault - Males. https://www.ptsd.va.gov/understand/types/sexual_trauma_male.asp

LeRon Barton: 

 LeRon’s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/leronlbarton

 Leron’s Website: https://leronbarton.com/

Follow Something Was Wrong:

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The SWW theme Song is U Think U, by Glad Rags. 

The S21 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart.

Data Points: Male Survivors of Sexual Assault (featuring LeRon Barton)

*Content warning: gun violence, stalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, violent threats, criminal threats, hate crimes, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, and homophobia.

J.E. Reich is a journalist, editor, survivor, and victim advocate. They shared their story on Something Was Wrong season 6, episodes 5 and 6, which aired on December 6th and December 13th of 2020. The episodes discuss the impact of the devastating 2018 shooting at The Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the impact the hate crime had on J.E.’s community. The three episodes also bring awareness to the related, horrific stalking J.E. and their family would be subjected to in the years following. However, at the time of the episodes’ release, J.E. and their family had received no justice for the unending harassment and death threats ‘The Caller’ executed over those years. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful J.E. was willing to return today to share more of their journey to seek justice, and about the start of their consequent healing process.

Something Was Wrong Season 6 E5, Massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue | JE:

https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-massacre-at-the-tree-of-life-synagogue-je/

Something Was Wrong Season 6 E6, Panic Attack City | JE:

https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-panic-attack-city-je/

J.E.'s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jereichwrites

For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

S6: (1/3) WCN Presents: [J.E.] S6 Updates

Content warning: gun violence, stalking, emotional, mental, and psychological abuse, violent threats, criminal threats, hate crimes, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, and homophobia.

J.E. Reich is a journalist, editor, survivor, and victim advocate. They shared their story on Something Was Wrong season 6, episodes 5 and 6, which aired on December 6th and December 13th of 2020. The episodes discuss the impact of the devastating 2018 shooting at The Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and the impact the hate crime had on J.E.’s community. The three episodes also bring awareness to the related, horrific stalking J.E. and their family would be subjected to in the years following. However, at the time of the episodes’ release, J.E. and their family had received no justice for the unending harassment and death threats ‘The Caller’ executed over those years. The Broken Cycle Media team is extremely grateful J.E. was willing to return today to share more of their journey to seek justice, and about the start of their consequent healing process.

Something Was Wrong Season 6 E5, Massacre at the Tree of Life Synagogue | JE:

https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-massacre-at-the-tree-of-life-synagogue-je/

Something Was Wrong Season 6 E6, Panic Attack City | JE:

https://wondery.com/shows/something-was-wrong/episode/10716-panic-attack-city-je/

J.E.'s Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/jereichwrites

For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://somethingwaswrong.com/resources

S6: (2/3) WCN Presents: [J.E.] S6 Updates

*Content Warning: childhood abuse, emotional abuse, racism, murder, police brutality, interpersonal violence, gun violence, death.

*Sources: 

Supreme Court to consider whether domestic abusers can own guns, 2023. By Meghanlata Gupta: www.npr.org/2023/06/30/1185371815/supreme-court-domestic-abuse-guns 

Mr. Patrick Brown; The National Registry of Exonerees, 2023: www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=6591 

PEOPLE v. HENNING (2009), Court of Appeal, Third District, California: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1499956.html 

Cameron Park coffee roaster R.C. Henning celebrates 50 Years in Business: https://www.sacbee.com/food-drink/restaurants/article272907740.html 

Believed, 2021, Michigan Radio, NPR: www.npr.org/podcasts/510326/believed 

Murder on Middle Beach, 2020, HBO: www.hbo.com/murder-on-middle-beach 

Free and confidential resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 

Artwork by the amazing Sara Stewart:

@GreaterThanOkay - Instagram.com/greaterthanokay

S16 Ep11: Q+A

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