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Sean Martin

ITSPmagazine

Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast
Hosted by Sean Martin, CISSP

Have you ever thought that we are selling cybersecurity insincerely, buying it indiscriminately, and deploying it ineffectively?

For cybersecurity to be genuinely effective, we must make it consumable and usable. We must also bring transparency and honesty to the conversations surrounding the methods, services, and technologies upon which businesses rely. If we are going to protect what matters and bring value to our companies, our communities, and our society, in a secure and safe way, we must begin by operationalizing security.

Executives are recognizing the importance of their investments in information security and the value it can have on business growth, brand value, partner trust, and customer loyalty.

Together with executives, lines of business owners, and practitioners, we are Redefining CyberSecurity.

Redefining CyberSecurity

Guest: Ravi Nayyar, PhD Scholar, The University Of Sydney

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stillromancingwithlife/

At AISA AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ravi-nayyar-uyhe3

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

The discussion begins with a unique and lighthearted analogy: comparing cybersecurity professionals to superheroes. Marco draws parallels to characters like “The Avengers” and “Deadpool,” describing them as defenders of our digital world. Ravi builds on this playful yet thought-provoking metaphor, likening the fight against cybercriminals to epic battles against villains, highlighting the high stakes of cybersecurity in critical systems.

The Cyber Zoo: Ravi Nayyar’s Research Focus

Ravi introduces his research, focusing on the regulation of cyber resilience within critical infrastructure, particularly the software supply chain. Using the metaphor of a “zoo,” he paints a vivid picture of the cybersecurity ecosystem, where diverse stakeholders—government bodies, infrastructure operators, and software vendors—must coexist and collaborate. His work delves into how companies can be held accountable for their cyber practices, aiming to secure national and global systems.

The Role of Humans in Cybersecurity

At the heart of cybersecurity, Ravi emphasizes, is the human element. His research highlights the need for incentivizing all players—critical infrastructure operators, software developers, and even end users—to embed secure practices into their operations. It's not just about rules and frameworks but about fostering a culture of responsibility and collaboration in an interconnected world.

The Case for Stronger Cyber Laws

Ravi critiques the historically relaxed approach to regulating software security, particularly for critical systems, and advocates for stronger, standardized laws. He compares cybersecurity frameworks to those used for medical devices, which are rigorously regulated for public safety. By adopting similar models, critical software could be held to higher standards, reducing risks to national security.

Global Cooperation and the Fight Against Regulatory Arbitrage

The discussion shifts to the need for international collaboration in cybersecurity. Ravi underscores the risk of regulatory arbitrage, where companies exploit weaker laws in certain regions to save costs. He proposes global coalitions and standardization bodies as potential solutions to ensure consistent and robust security practices worldwide.

Incentivizing Secure Practices

Delving into the practical side of regulation, Ravi discusses ways to incentivize companies to adopt secure practices. From procurement policies favoring vendors with strong cybersecurity commitments to the potential for class action lawsuits, the conversation explores the multifaceted strategies needed to hold organizations accountable and foster a safer digital ecosystem.

Closing Thoughts: Collaboration for a Safer Digital World

Sean, Marco, and Ravi wrap up the episode by emphasizing the critical need for cross-sector collaboration—between academia, industry, media, and government—to tackle the evolving challenges of cybersecurity. By raising public awareness and encouraging proactive measures, they highlight the importance of a unified effort to secure our digital infrastructure.

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Resources

The theory of saving the world: Intervention requests and critical infrastructure: https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-eI6eYNrifl

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The Theory of Saving the World: Intervention Requests and Critical Infrastructure | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Ravi Nayyar | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

Guests: 

Asaf Dori, Cyber Security Lead, Healthshare NSW

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/adori/

Ashwin Pal, Partner – Cyber Security and Privacy Services, RSM Australia

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashwin-pal-a1769a5/

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

At the AISA CyberCon 2024 in Melbourne, Sean Martin sat down with Asaf Dori and Ashwin Pal to explore the often-overlooked areas of the NIST Cybersecurity Framework: response and recovery. Both guests highlighted the critical gaps organizations face in these domains and shared practical insights on addressing them.

Asaf Dori, a cybersecurity professional in healthcare and a researcher at the University of Sydney, underscored the need for governance-driven awareness to improve response and recovery capabilities. His research revealed that while organizations invest heavily in prevention and detection, they frequently neglect robust recovery plans. He emphasized the importance of comprehensive disaster recovery exercises over isolated system-based approaches. By linking governance to practical outcomes, Dori argued that organizations could better align their strategies with business resilience.

Ashwin Pal, a partner at RSM with 26 years of experience in IT security, brought a field perspective, pointing out how recovery strategies often fail to meet business requirements. He discussed the disconnect between IT recovery metrics, such as RPOs and RTOs, and actual business needs. Pal noted that outdated assumptions about recovery timeframes and critical systems frequently result in misaligned priorities. He advocated for direct business engagement to establish recovery strategies that support operational continuity.

A key theme was the role of effective governance in fostering collaboration between IT and business stakeholders. Both speakers agreed that engaging business leaders through tabletop exercises is an essential starting point. Simulating ransomware scenarios, for instance, often exposes gaps in recovery plans, such as inaccessible continuity documents during a crisis. Such exercises, they suggested, empower CISOs to secure executive buy-in for strategic improvements.

The discussion also touched on the competitive advantages of robust cybersecurity practices. Dori noted that in some industries, such as energy, cybersecurity maturity is increasingly viewed as a differentiator in securing contracts. Pal echoed this, citing examples where certifications like ISO have become prerequisites in supply chain partnerships.

By reframing cybersecurity as a business enabler rather than a cost center, organizations can align their response and recovery strategies with broader operational goals. This shift requires CISOs and risk officers to lead conversations that translate technical requirements into business outcomes, emphasizing trust, resilience, and customer retention.

This dialogue provides actionable insights for leaders aiming to close the response and recovery gap and position cybersecurity as a strategic asset.

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Rebalancing Cyber Security: Prioritizing Response and Recovery in Governance | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Asaf Dori and Ashwin Pal | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

In a recent episode of Brand Story, Simon Wijckmans, founder and CEO of c/side, discussed the critical need to secure third-party scripts on websites, a frequently overlooked aspect of cybersecurity. Drawing on his experience with companies like Cloudflare and Vercel, Wijckmans outlined why traditional methods fall short in addressing dynamic threats and how c/side is redefining client-side security.

Third-party scripts—commonly used for analytics, marketing, and chatbots—are vital for website functionality but come with inherent risks. These scripts operate dynamically, allowing malicious actors to inject harmful code under specific conditions, such as targeting particular users or timeframes. Existing security approaches, such as threat feeds or basic web crawlers, fail to detect these threats because they often rely on static assessments. As Wijckmans explained, these limitations result in a false sense of security, leaving businesses exposed to significant risks.

C/side provides a proactive solution by placing itself between users and third-party script providers. This approach enables real-time analysis and monitoring of script behavior. Using advanced tools, including AI-driven analysis, c/side inspects the JavaScript code and flags malicious activity. Unlike other solutions, it offers complete transparency by delivering the full source code of scripts in a readable format, empowering organizations to investigate and address potential vulnerabilities comprehensively.

Wijckmans stressed that client-side script security is an essential yet underrepresented aspect of the supply chain. While most security tools focus on protecting server-side dependencies, the browser remains a critical point where sensitive data is often compromised. C/side not only addresses this gap but also helps organizations meet compliance requirements like those outlined in PCI-DSS, which mandate monitoring client-side scripts executed in browsers.

C/side’s offerings cater to various users, from small businesses using a free tier to enterprises requiring comprehensive solutions. Its tools integrate seamlessly into cybersecurity programs, supporting developers, agencies, and compliance teams. Additionally, c/side enhances performance by optimizing script delivery, ensuring that security does not come at the cost of website functionality.

With its innovative approach, c/side exemplifies how specialized solutions can tackle complex cybersecurity challenges. As Wijckmans highlighted, the modern web can be made safer with accessible, effective tools, leaving no excuse for neglecting client-side security. Through its commitment to transparency, performance, and comprehensive protection, c/side is shaping a safer digital ecosystem for businesses and users alike.

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Guest: Simon Wijckmans, Founder & CEO, c/side [@csideai]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/wijckmans/ 

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Breaking Down the Complexities of Client-Side Threats and How to Stop Them | A c/side Brand Story Conversation with Simon Wijckmans

In this latest episode of the Imperva Brand Story on ITSP Magazine, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli sit down with Terry Ray, CTO for Data Security at Imperva. Together, they discuss the pressing challenges and transformative innovations shaping the future of safeguarding information.

Unpacking Data Security Posture Management

Terry Ray introduces Data Security Posture Management (DSPM), comparing it to inspecting a home—where identifying vulnerabilities is just as important as fixing them. He emphasizes that data security requires constant vigilance, urging organizations to develop a deep understanding of their infrastructure while staying agile against emerging threats.

Moving Beyond Compliance to Real Security

The conversation highlights the often-misunderstood relationship between compliance and genuine security. While meeting regulatory requirements is necessary, Terry argues that true data protection requires a broader, risk-based approach, addressing vulnerabilities in both regulated and non-regulated systems to prepare for audits and unforeseen breaches.

The Power of Automation and Machine Learning

Terry underscores Imperva's dedication to leveraging advanced automation, AI, and machine learning technologies to process vast data sets and detect threats proactively. By adopting innovative strategies, companies can transition from reactive to proactive measures in protecting their digital ecosystems.

Fostering Collaboration and Security Awareness

A standout point from the discussion is the importance of collaboration across organizational roles—from compliance officers to database managers and security teams. By fostering a culture of continuous learning and teamwork, businesses can better allocate resources and adapt to evolving security priorities.

Embracing Security's Ever-Changing Nature

The conversation concludes with a powerful reflection on the unpredictable nature of cybersecurity. As new threats and technologies emerge, organizations must remain adaptable, forward-thinking, and prepared for the unexpected to stay ahead in an ever-changing security landscape.

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Guest: Terry Ray, SVP Data Security GTM, Field CTO and Imperva Fellow [@Imperva]

On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-ray/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/TerryRay_Fellow

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Data Security Posture Management — DSPM. What, why, when, and how: All The Insights You Need To Know | An Imperva Brand Story Conversation with Terry Ray

The latest episode of Redefining CyberSecurity on ITSPmagazine featured a thought-provoking discussion about integrating human factors into secure software development. Host Sean Martin was joined by Dr. Kelsey Fulton, Assistant Professor at the Colorado School of Mines, and Julie Haney, a computer scientist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. The conversation explored how human-centered approaches can strengthen secure software practices and address challenges in the development process.

A Human-Centered Approach to Security

Dr. Fulton shared how her research focuses on the human factors that impact secure software development. Her journey began during her graduate studies at the University of Maryland, where she was introduced to the intersection of human behavior and security in a course that sparked her interest. Her projects, such as investigating the transition from C to Rust programming languages, underscore the complexity of embedding security into the software development lifecycle.

The Current State of Secure Development

One key takeaway from the discussion was the tension between functionality and security in software development. Developers often prioritize getting a product to market quickly, leading to decisions that sideline security considerations. Dr. Fulton noted that while developers typically have good intentions, they often lack the resources, tools, and organizational support necessary to incorporate security effectively.

She highlighted the need for a “security by design” approach, which integrates security practices from the earliest stages of development. Embedding security specialists within development teams can create a cultural shift where security becomes a shared responsibility rather than an afterthought.

Challenges in Adoption and Education

Dr. Fulton’s research reveals significant obstacles to adopting secure practices, including the complexity of tools and the lack of comprehensive education for developers. Even advanced tools like static analyzers and fuzzers are underutilized. A major barrier is developers’ perception that security is not their responsibility, compounded by tight deadlines and organizational pressures.

Additionally, her research into Rust adoption at companies illuminated technical and organizational challenges. Resistance often stems from the cost and complexity of transitioning existing systems, despite Rust’s promise of enhanced security and memory safety.

The Future of Human-Centered Security

Looking ahead, Dr. Fulton emphasized the importance of addressing how developers trust and interact with tools like large language models (LLMs) for code generation. Her team is exploring ways to enhance these tools, ensuring they provide secure code suggestions and help developers recognize vulnerabilities.

The episode concluded with a call to action for organizations to support research in this area and cultivate a security-first culture. Dr. Fulton underscored the potential of collaborative efforts between researchers, developers, and companies to improve security outcomes.

By focusing on human factors and fostering supportive environments, organizations can significantly advance secure software development practices.

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Guests: 

Dr. Kelsey Fulton, Assistant Professor of Computer Science at the Colorado School of Mines

Website | https://cs.mines.edu/project/fulton-kelsey/

Julie Haney, Computer scientist and Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program Lead, National Institute of Standards and Technology [@NISTcyber]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

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From Code to Confidence: The Role of Human Factors in Secure Software Development | Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series with Co-Host Julie Haney and Guest Kelsey Fulton | Redefining CyberSecurity with Sean Martin

About the CISO Circuit Series
Sean Martin and Michael Piacente join forces roughly once per month (or so, depending on schedules) to discuss everything from looking for a new job, entering the field, finding the right work/life balance, examining the risks and rewards in the role, building and supporting your team, the value of the community, relevant newsworthy items, and so much more. Join us to help us understand the role of the CISO so that we can collectively find a path to Redefining CyberSecurity for business and society. If you have a topic idea or a comment on an episode, feel free to contact Sean Martin.

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Guests: 

Heather Hinton, CISO-in-Residence, Professional Association of CISOs

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-hinton-9731911/

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

Michael Piacente, Managing Partner and Cofounder of Hitch Partners

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/michael-piacente

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Episode Notes

In this episode of the CISO Circuit Series, part of the Redefining Cybersecurity Podcast on ITSPmagazine, hosts Sean Martin and Michael Piacente welcomed Heather Hinton, seasoned cybersecurity leader, to discuss the evolving responsibilities and recognition of Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs). Their conversation explored the transformative work of the Professional Association of CISOs (PAC), an organization dedicated to establishing standards, accreditation, and support for cybersecurity leaders globally.

This episode addressed three critical questions shaping the modern CISO role:

 1. How can CISOs build trust within their organizations?
 2. What is PAC doing to elevate cybersecurity as a recognized profession?
 3. How can CISOs prepare for increasing scrutiny and legal risks?
Building Trust: A CISO’s Key Responsibility
Heather Hinton, whose career includes leadership roles like VP and CISO for IBM Cloud and PagerDuty, underscores that trust is foundational for a CISO’s success. Beyond technical expertise, a CISO must demonstrate leadership, strategic thinking, and effective communication with boards, executives, and teams. Hinton highlights that cybersecurity should not be perceived as merely a technical function but as a critical enabler of business objectives.

The PAC accreditation process reinforces this perspective by formalizing the skills needed to build trust. From fostering collaboration to aligning security strategies with organizational goals, PAC equips CISOs with tools to establish credibility and demonstrate value from day one.
Elevating Cybersecurity as a Recognized Profession
Michael Piacente, Managing Partner at Hitch Partners and co-host of the CISO Circuit Series, emphasizes PAC’s role in professionalizing cybersecurity. By introducing a Code of Professional Conduct, structured accreditation programs, and robust career development resources, PAC is raising the bar for the profession. Hinton and Piacente explain that PAC’s ultimate vision is to make membership and accreditation standard for CISO roles, akin to certifications we've come to expect and rely upon for doctors or lawyers.

This vision reflects a growing recognition of cybersecurity as a discipline critical not only to organizations but to society as a whole. PAC’s advocacy extends to shaping global policies, setting professional standards, and fostering an environment where CISOs are equipped to handle emerging challenges like hybrid warfare and AI-driven threats.
Preparing for Legal Risks and Industry Challenges
The conversation also delves into the increasing legal and regulatory scrutiny CISOs face. Piacente and Hinton stress the importance of having clear job descriptions, liability protections, and professional resources—areas where PAC is driving significant progress. By providing legal and mental health support, along with peer-driven mentorship, PAC empowers CISOs to navigate these challenges with confidence.

Hinton notes that PAC is also a critical voice in addressing broader systemic risks, advocating for policies that protect CISOs while ensuring they are well-positioned to protect their organizations and society.
Looking Ahead
With goals to expand its membership to 1,000 and scale its accreditation programs by 2025, PAC is setting the foundation for a more unified and professionalized cybersecurity community. Hinton envisions PAC becoming a global authority, advising governments and organizations on cybersecurity standards and policies while fostering collaboration among professionals.

For those aspiring to advance cybersecurity as a recognized profession, PAC offers a platform to shape the future of the field. Learn more about PAC and how to join at TheCISO.org.

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Establishing a New Standard for Cybersecurity Professionals Worldwide: Addressing Trust, Standards, and Risk for the CISO Role | CISO Circuit Series with Heather Hinton | Michael Piacente and Sean Martin | Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast

Guest: Fahad Mughal, Senior Cyber Solutions Architect - Security

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/fahadmughal/

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Episode Notes

Modern railway systems are increasingly digital, integrating operational technology (OT) to enhance efficiency, reliability, and safety. However, as railways adopt automated and interconnected systems, they also become more vulnerable to cyber threats. In this episode of Redefining Cybersecurity on ITSP Magazine, host Sean Martin speaks with Fahad Ali Mughal, a cybersecurity professional with extensive experience in OT security architecture, about the challenges and priorities of securing railway infrastructure.

The Growing Role of Cybersecurity in Railways

Railway systems have evolved from steam-powered locomotives to autonomous, driverless trains that rely on sophisticated digital controls. OT now plays a crucial role in managing train operations, signaling, interlocking, and trackside equipment. These advancements improve efficiency but also expose railway networks to cyber threats that can disrupt service, compromise safety, and even impact national security.
 

Unlike traditional IT environments, where the focus is on confidentiality, integrity, and availability (CIA), OT in railways prioritizes reliability, availability, and public safety. Ensuring the safe movement of trains requires a cybersecurity strategy tailored to the unique needs of railway infrastructure.

Critical OT Systems in Railways

Mughal highlights key OT components in railways that require cybersecurity protection:

• Signaling Systems: These function like traffic lights for trains, ensuring safe distances between locomotives. Modern communication-based train control (CBTC) and European Rail Traffic Management Systems (ERTMS) are vulnerable to cyber intrusions.

• Interlocking Systems: These systems prevent conflicting train movements, ensuring safe operations. As they become digitized, cyber risks increase.

• Onboard OT Systems: Automatic Train Control (ATC) regulates speed and ensures compliance with signaling instructions. A cyberattack could manipulate these controls.

• SCADA Systems: Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) systems oversee infrastructure operations. Any compromise here can impact an entire railway network.

• Safety-Critical Systems: Fail-safe mechanisms like automatic braking and failover controls are vital in preventing catastrophic accidents.

The increasing digitization and interconnection of these systems expand the attack surface, making cybersecurity a top priority for railway operators.

Real-World Cyber Threats in Railways

Mughal discusses several significant cyber incidents that highlight vulnerabilities in railway cybersecurity:

• 2023 Poland Attack: Nation-state actors exploited vulnerabilities in railway radio communication systems to send unauthorized emergency stop commands, halting trains across the country. The attack exposed weaknesses in authentication and encryption within OT communication protocols.

• 2021 Iran Railway Incident: Hackers breached Iran’s railway scheduling and digital message board systems, displaying fake messages and causing widespread confusion. While safety-critical OT systems remained unaffected, the attack disrupted operations and damaged public trust.

• 2016 San Francisco Muni Ransomware Attack: A ransomware attack crippled the fare and scheduling system, leading to free rides for passengers and operational delays. Though IT systems were the primary target, the impact on OT operations was evident.

These incidents underscore the urgent need for stronger authentication, encryption, and IT-OT segmentation to protect railway infrastructure.

Cybersecurity Standards and Best Practices for Railways (links to resources below)

To build resilient railway cybersecurity, Mughal emphasizes the importance of international standards:

• IEC 62443: A globally recognized framework for securing industrial control systems, widely applied to OT environments, including railways. It introduces concepts such as network segmentation, risk assessment, and security levels.

• TS 50701: A European standard specifically designed for railway cybersecurity, expanding on IEC 62443 with guidance for securing signaling, interlocking, and control systems.

• EN 50126 (RAMS Standard): A safety-focused standard that integrates reliability, availability, maintainability, and safety (RAMS) into railway operations.

Adopting these standards helps railway operators establish secure-by-design architectures that mitigate cyber risks.

Looking Ahead: Strengthening Railway Cybersecurity

As railway systems become more automated and interconnected with smart cities, vehicle transportation, and supply chain networks, cyber threats will continue to grow. Mughal stresses the need for industry collaboration between railway engineers and cybersecurity professionals to ensure that security is integrated into every stage of railway system design.

He also emphasizes the importance of real-time OT threat monitoring, anomaly detection, and Security Operations Centers (SOCs) that understand railway-specific cyber risks. The industry must stay ahead of adversaries by adopting proactive security measures before a large-scale cyber incident disrupts critical transportation networks.

The conversation makes it clear: cybersecurity is now a fundamental part of railway safety and reliability. As Mughal warns, it’s not a question of if railway cyber incidents will happen, but when.

To hear the full discussion, including insights into OT vulnerabilities, real-world case studies, and cybersecurity best practices, listen to this episode of Redefining Cybersecurity on ITSP Magazine.

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Resources

The LinkedIn Post that inspired this conversation: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7264434413965328384/

IEC 62443: https://www.isa.org/standards-and-publications/isa-standards/isa-iec-62443-series-of-standards

CENELEC TS 50701: https://www.en-standard.eu/clc/ts-50701-2021-railway-applications-cybersecurity/

EN 50126: https://www.en-standard.eu/bs-en-50126-1-2017-railway-applications-the-specification-and-demonstration-of-reliability-availability-maintainability-and-safety-rams-generic-rams-process/

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From Signaling to Safety: Protecting Critical Infrastructure and the Modern Railway from Digital Threats | A Conversation with Fahad Mughal | Redefining CyberSecurity with Sean Martin

Zero Trust World 2025, hosted by ThreatLocker, is set to bring together IT professionals, business leaders, and cybersecurity practitioners for three days of hands-on labs, insightful discussions, and expert-led sessions. Taking place in Orlando, Florida, from February 19-21, this year’s event promises an expanded agenda with cutting-edge topics, interactive workshops, and a unique approach to cybersecurity education.
The Growth of Zero Trust World
Now in its fifth year, Zero Trust World continues to grow exponentially, increasing in size by roughly 50% each year. Kieran Human, Special Projects Engineer at ThreatLocker, attributes this rapid expansion to the rising demand for cybersecurity solutions and the company’s own growth. More IT leaders are recognizing the necessity of a Zero Trust approach—not just as a security measure, but as a fundamental philosophy for protecting their organizations.
What to Expect: Hands-On Learning and Key Discussions
One of the biggest draws of Zero Trust World is its focus on hands-on experiences. Attendees can participate in hacking labs designed to teach them how cyber threats operate from an attacker’s perspective. These include interactive exercises using rubber duckies—USB devices that mimic keyboards to inject malicious commands—demonstrating how easily cybercriminals can compromise systems.

For those interested in practical applications of security measures, there will be sessions covering topics such as cookie theft, Metasploit, Windows and server security, and malware development. Whether an attendee is an entry-level IT professional or a seasoned security engineer, there’s something to gain from these hands-on labs.
High-Profile Speakers and Industry Insights
Beyond the labs, Zero Trust World 2025 will feature a lineup of influential speakers, including former Nintendo of America President and CEO Reggie Fils-Aimé, Chase Cunningham (known as Dr. Zero Trust), and ThreatLocker CEO Danny Jenkins. These sessions will provide strategic insights on Zero Trust implementation, industry challenges, and innovative cybersecurity practices.

One of the key sessions to look forward to is “The Dangers of Shadow IT,” led by Ryan Bowman, VP of Solution Engineering at ThreatLocker. Shadow IT remains a major challenge for organizations striving to implement Zero Trust, as unauthorized applications and devices create vulnerabilities that security teams may not even be aware of. Stay tuned for a pre-event chat with Ryan coming your way soon.
Networking, Certification, and More
Zero Trust World isn’t just about education—it’s also a prime networking opportunity. Attendees can connect during daily happy hours, the welcome and closing receptions, and a comic book-themed afterparty. ThreatLocker is even introducing a new cybersecurity comic book, adding a creative twist to the conference experience.

A major highlight is the Cyber Hero Program, which offers attendees a chance to earn certification in Zero Trust principles. By completing the Cyber Hero exam, participants can have the cost of their event ticket fully refunded, making this an invaluable opportunity for those looking to deepen their cybersecurity expertise.
A Unique Capture the Flag Challenge
For those with advanced cybersecurity skills, the Capture the Flag challenge presents an exciting opportunity. The first person to successfully hack a specially designed, custom-painted high-end computer gets to take it home. This competition is expected to draw some of the best security minds in attendance, reinforcing the event’s commitment to real-world application of cybersecurity techniques.
Join the Conversation
With so much to see and do, Zero Trust World 2025 is shaping up to be an essential event for IT professionals, business leaders, and security practitioners. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli will be covering the event live, hosting interviews with speakers, panelists, and attendees to capture insights and takeaways.

Whether you’re looking to enhance your security knowledge, expand your professional network, or experience hands-on cybersecurity training, Zero Trust World 2025 offers something for everyone. If you’re attending, be sure to stop by the podcast area and join the conversation on the future of Zero Trust security.

Guest: Kieran Human, Special Projects Engineer, ThreatLocker [@ThreatLocker | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kieran-human-5495ab170/

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber] | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Cyber Threat Research, Hands-On Labs, and a Challenge You Can’t Afford to Miss | A Zero Trust World Conversation with Kieran Human | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

ITSPmagazine is gearing up for another year of in-depth event coverage, bringing insights from industry leaders, innovators, and companies making an impact in cybersecurity, technology, and society. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli outline their plans for 2025, emphasizing a mix of established conferences and new opportunities to highlight emerging discussions.

Key Industry Events

The year’s schedule includes cornerstone cybersecurity conferences such as RSA Conference in San Francisco, Infosecurity Europe in London, and Black Hat in Las Vegas. These events serve as major platforms for discussing industry trends, launching new products, and showcasing research. Through editorial coverage, interviews, and discussions, ITSP Magazine provides perspectives from keynote speakers, panelists, and organizations shaping the field.

Expanding Coverage Beyond Cybersecurity

Beyond security-focused events, the team is covering NAMM 2025, a leading music and technology conference, and Legal Week in New York, where legal, policy, and AI discussions intersect. Other major tech gatherings include CES, VivaTech, and KIMS, broadening the conversation to industries influencing the digital landscape.

For companies looking to share their stories at these events, ITSP Magazine is offering sponsorship opportunities and editorial coverage. Stay tuned for updates, and catch ITSP Magazine on location throughout the year.

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Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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The Ultimate 2025 Tech & Cybersecurity Event Guide: Where to Be | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

Zero Trust World 2025, hosted by ThreatLocker, is fast approaching (February 19-21), bringing together security professionals, IT leaders, and business executives to discuss the principles and implementation of Zero Trust. Hosted by ThreatLocker, this event offers a unique opportunity to explore real-world security challenges and solutions.

In a special On Location with Sean and Marco episode recorded ahead of the event, Ryan Bowman, VP of Solutions Engineering at ThreatLocker, shares insights into his upcoming session, The Dangers of Shadow IT. Shadow IT—the use of unauthorized applications and systems within an organization—poses a significant risk to security, operations, and compliance. Bowman’s session aims to shed light on this issue and equip attendees with strategies to address it effectively.

Understanding Shadow IT and Its Risks

Bowman explains that Shadow IT is more than just an inconvenience—it’s a growing challenge for businesses of all sizes. Employees often turn to unauthorized tools and services because they perceive them as more efficient, cost-effective, or user-friendly than the official solutions provided by IT teams. While this may seem harmless, the reality is that these unsanctioned applications create serious security vulnerabilities, increase operational risk, and complicate compliance efforts.

One of the most pressing concerns is data security. Employees using unauthorized platforms for communication, file sharing, or project management may unknowingly expose sensitive company data to external risks. When employees leave the organization or access is revoked, data stored in these unofficial systems can remain accessible, increasing the risk of breaches or data loss.

Procurement issues also play a role in the Shadow IT problem. Bowman highlights cases where organizations unknowingly pay for redundant software services, such as using both Teams and Slack for communication, leading to unnecessary expenses. A lack of centralized oversight results in wasted resources and fragmented security controls.

Zero Trust as a Mindset

A recurring theme throughout the discussion is that Zero Trust is not just a technology or a product—it’s a mindset. Bowman emphasizes that implementing Zero Trust requires organizations to reassess their approach to security at every level. Instead of inherently trusting employees or systems, organizations must critically evaluate every access request, application, and data exchange.

This mindset shift extends beyond security teams. IT leaders must work closely with employees to understand why Shadow IT is being used and find secure, approved alternatives that still support productivity. By fostering open communication and making security a shared responsibility, organizations can reduce the temptation for employees to bypass official IT policies.

Practical Strategies to Combat Shadow IT

Bowman’s session will not only highlight the risks associated with Shadow IT but also provide actionable strategies to mitigate them. Attendees can expect insights into:

• Identifying and monitoring unauthorized applications within their organization

• Implementing policies and security controls that balance security with user needs

• Enhancing employee engagement and education to prevent unauthorized technology use

• Leveraging solutions like ThreatLocker to enforce security policies while maintaining operational efficiency

Bowman also stresses the importance of rethinking traditional IT stereotypes. While security teams often impose strict policies to minimize risk, they must also ensure that these policies do not create unnecessary obstacles for employees. The key is to strike a balance between control and usability.

Why This Session Matters

With organizations constantly facing new security threats, understanding the implications of Shadow IT is critical. Bowman’s session at Zero Trust World 2025 will provide a practical, real-world perspective on how organizations can protect themselves without stifling innovation and efficiency.

Beyond the technical discussions, the conference itself offers a unique chance to engage with industry leaders, network with peers, and gain firsthand experience with security tools in hands-on labs. With high-energy sessions, interactive learning opportunities, and keynotes from industry leaders like ThreatLocker CEO Danny Jenkins and Dr. Zero Trust, Chase Cunningham, Zero Trust World 2025 is shaping up to be an essential event for anyone serious about cybersecurity.

For those interested in staying ahead of security challenges, attending Bowman’s session on The Dangers of Shadow IT is a must.

Guest: Ryan Bowman, VP of Solutions Engineering, ThreatLocker [@ThreatLocker | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-bowman-3358a71b/

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber] | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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This Episode’s Sponsors

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Register for Zero Trust World 2025: https://itspm.ag/threat5mu1

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Shadow IT: Securing Your Organization in a World of Unapproved Apps | A Zero Trust World Conversation with Ryan Bowman | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

Community Member Contributor: Billy Spears, Chief Information Security Officer at Teradata [@Teradata]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/billyjspears/

Hosts
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Description

By establishing trust, organizations can develop more efficient security programs and improve risk management outcomes. In this post, Billy Spears, CISO for Teradata, presents critical elements for building trust, such as adopting a results-oriented approach, clarifying intent, and actively listening to others. The crucial role of trust in the cybersecurity industry is also explored as Billy emphasizes its significance in cultivating effective communication, collaboration, and innovation within teams and organizations. Billy stresses the importance of balancing trust in human relationships with the implementation of zero-trust security solutions, paving the way for a more collaborative and productive environment in the cybersecurity landscape.

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The Importance of Trust in Cybersecurity | Building Effective Teams and Communication | A Crucial Conversation With Billy Spears

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