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Sean Martin

ITSPmagazine

Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast
Hosted by Sean Martin, CISSP

Have you ever thought that we are selling cybersecurity insincerely, buying it indiscriminately, and deploying it ineffectively?

For cybersecurity to be genuinely effective, we must make it consumable and usable. We must also bring transparency and honesty to the conversations surrounding the methods, services, and technologies upon which businesses rely. If we are going to protect what matters and bring value to our companies, our communities, and our society, in a secure and safe way, we must begin by operationalizing security.

Executives are recognizing the importance of their investments in information security and the value it can have on business growth, brand value, partner trust, and customer loyalty.

Together with executives, lines of business owners, and practitioners, we are Redefining CyberSecurity.

Redefining CyberSecurity

Guest: Ravi Nayyar, PhD Scholar, The University Of Sydney

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stillromancingwithlife/

At AISA AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ravi-nayyar-uyhe3

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

The discussion begins with a unique and lighthearted analogy: comparing cybersecurity professionals to superheroes. Marco draws parallels to characters like “The Avengers” and “Deadpool,” describing them as defenders of our digital world. Ravi builds on this playful yet thought-provoking metaphor, likening the fight against cybercriminals to epic battles against villains, highlighting the high stakes of cybersecurity in critical systems.

The Cyber Zoo: Ravi Nayyar’s Research Focus

Ravi introduces his research, focusing on the regulation of cyber resilience within critical infrastructure, particularly the software supply chain. Using the metaphor of a “zoo,” he paints a vivid picture of the cybersecurity ecosystem, where diverse stakeholders—government bodies, infrastructure operators, and software vendors—must coexist and collaborate. His work delves into how companies can be held accountable for their cyber practices, aiming to secure national and global systems.

The Role of Humans in Cybersecurity

At the heart of cybersecurity, Ravi emphasizes, is the human element. His research highlights the need for incentivizing all players—critical infrastructure operators, software developers, and even end users—to embed secure practices into their operations. It's not just about rules and frameworks but about fostering a culture of responsibility and collaboration in an interconnected world.

The Case for Stronger Cyber Laws

Ravi critiques the historically relaxed approach to regulating software security, particularly for critical systems, and advocates for stronger, standardized laws. He compares cybersecurity frameworks to those used for medical devices, which are rigorously regulated for public safety. By adopting similar models, critical software could be held to higher standards, reducing risks to national security.

Global Cooperation and the Fight Against Regulatory Arbitrage

The discussion shifts to the need for international collaboration in cybersecurity. Ravi underscores the risk of regulatory arbitrage, where companies exploit weaker laws in certain regions to save costs. He proposes global coalitions and standardization bodies as potential solutions to ensure consistent and robust security practices worldwide.

Incentivizing Secure Practices

Delving into the practical side of regulation, Ravi discusses ways to incentivize companies to adopt secure practices. From procurement policies favoring vendors with strong cybersecurity commitments to the potential for class action lawsuits, the conversation explores the multifaceted strategies needed to hold organizations accountable and foster a safer digital ecosystem.

Closing Thoughts: Collaboration for a Safer Digital World

Sean, Marco, and Ravi wrap up the episode by emphasizing the critical need for cross-sector collaboration—between academia, industry, media, and government—to tackle the evolving challenges of cybersecurity. By raising public awareness and encouraging proactive measures, they highlight the importance of a unified effort to secure our digital infrastructure.

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The theory of saving the world: Intervention requests and critical infrastructure: https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-eI6eYNrifl

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The Theory of Saving the World: Intervention Requests and Critical Infrastructure | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Ravi Nayyar | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

Guests: 

Asaf Dori, Cyber Security Lead, Healthshare NSW

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/adori/

Ashwin Pal, Partner – Cyber Security and Privacy Services, RSM Australia

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashwin-pal-a1769a5/

Hosts: 

Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli

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Episode Notes

At the AISA CyberCon 2024 in Melbourne, Sean Martin sat down with Asaf Dori and Ashwin Pal to explore the often-overlooked areas of the NIST Cybersecurity Framework: response and recovery. Both guests highlighted the critical gaps organizations face in these domains and shared practical insights on addressing them.

Asaf Dori, a cybersecurity professional in healthcare and a researcher at the University of Sydney, underscored the need for governance-driven awareness to improve response and recovery capabilities. His research revealed that while organizations invest heavily in prevention and detection, they frequently neglect robust recovery plans. He emphasized the importance of comprehensive disaster recovery exercises over isolated system-based approaches. By linking governance to practical outcomes, Dori argued that organizations could better align their strategies with business resilience.

Ashwin Pal, a partner at RSM with 26 years of experience in IT security, brought a field perspective, pointing out how recovery strategies often fail to meet business requirements. He discussed the disconnect between IT recovery metrics, such as RPOs and RTOs, and actual business needs. Pal noted that outdated assumptions about recovery timeframes and critical systems frequently result in misaligned priorities. He advocated for direct business engagement to establish recovery strategies that support operational continuity.

A key theme was the role of effective governance in fostering collaboration between IT and business stakeholders. Both speakers agreed that engaging business leaders through tabletop exercises is an essential starting point. Simulating ransomware scenarios, for instance, often exposes gaps in recovery plans, such as inaccessible continuity documents during a crisis. Such exercises, they suggested, empower CISOs to secure executive buy-in for strategic improvements.

The discussion also touched on the competitive advantages of robust cybersecurity practices. Dori noted that in some industries, such as energy, cybersecurity maturity is increasingly viewed as a differentiator in securing contracts. Pal echoed this, citing examples where certifications like ISO have become prerequisites in supply chain partnerships.

By reframing cybersecurity as a business enabler rather than a cost center, organizations can align their response and recovery strategies with broader operational goals. This shift requires CISOs and risk officers to lead conversations that translate technical requirements into business outcomes, emphasizing trust, resilience, and customer retention.

This dialogue provides actionable insights for leaders aiming to close the response and recovery gap and position cybersecurity as a strategic asset.

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Rebalancing Cyber Security: Prioritizing Response and Recovery in Governance | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Asaf Dori and Ashwin Pal | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli

In a recent episode of Brand Story, Simon Wijckmans, founder and CEO of c/side, discussed the critical need to secure third-party scripts on websites, a frequently overlooked aspect of cybersecurity. Drawing on his experience with companies like Cloudflare and Vercel, Wijckmans outlined why traditional methods fall short in addressing dynamic threats and how c/side is redefining client-side security.

Third-party scripts—commonly used for analytics, marketing, and chatbots—are vital for website functionality but come with inherent risks. These scripts operate dynamically, allowing malicious actors to inject harmful code under specific conditions, such as targeting particular users or timeframes. Existing security approaches, such as threat feeds or basic web crawlers, fail to detect these threats because they often rely on static assessments. As Wijckmans explained, these limitations result in a false sense of security, leaving businesses exposed to significant risks.

C/side provides a proactive solution by placing itself between users and third-party script providers. This approach enables real-time analysis and monitoring of script behavior. Using advanced tools, including AI-driven analysis, c/side inspects the JavaScript code and flags malicious activity. Unlike other solutions, it offers complete transparency by delivering the full source code of scripts in a readable format, empowering organizations to investigate and address potential vulnerabilities comprehensively.

Wijckmans stressed that client-side script security is an essential yet underrepresented aspect of the supply chain. While most security tools focus on protecting server-side dependencies, the browser remains a critical point where sensitive data is often compromised. C/side not only addresses this gap but also helps organizations meet compliance requirements like those outlined in PCI-DSS, which mandate monitoring client-side scripts executed in browsers.

C/side’s offerings cater to various users, from small businesses using a free tier to enterprises requiring comprehensive solutions. Its tools integrate seamlessly into cybersecurity programs, supporting developers, agencies, and compliance teams. Additionally, c/side enhances performance by optimizing script delivery, ensuring that security does not come at the cost of website functionality.

With its innovative approach, c/side exemplifies how specialized solutions can tackle complex cybersecurity challenges. As Wijckmans highlighted, the modern web can be made safer with accessible, effective tools, leaving no excuse for neglecting client-side security. Through its commitment to transparency, performance, and comprehensive protection, c/side is shaping a safer digital ecosystem for businesses and users alike.

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Guest: Simon Wijckmans, Founder & CEO, c/side [@csideai]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/wijckmans/ 

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Breaking Down the Complexities of Client-Side Threats and How to Stop Them | A c/side Brand Story Conversation with Simon Wijckmans

In this latest episode of the Imperva Brand Story on ITSP Magazine, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli sit down with Terry Ray, CTO for Data Security at Imperva. Together, they discuss the pressing challenges and transformative innovations shaping the future of safeguarding information.

Unpacking Data Security Posture Management

Terry Ray introduces Data Security Posture Management (DSPM), comparing it to inspecting a home—where identifying vulnerabilities is just as important as fixing them. He emphasizes that data security requires constant vigilance, urging organizations to develop a deep understanding of their infrastructure while staying agile against emerging threats.

Moving Beyond Compliance to Real Security

The conversation highlights the often-misunderstood relationship between compliance and genuine security. While meeting regulatory requirements is necessary, Terry argues that true data protection requires a broader, risk-based approach, addressing vulnerabilities in both regulated and non-regulated systems to prepare for audits and unforeseen breaches.

The Power of Automation and Machine Learning

Terry underscores Imperva's dedication to leveraging advanced automation, AI, and machine learning technologies to process vast data sets and detect threats proactively. By adopting innovative strategies, companies can transition from reactive to proactive measures in protecting their digital ecosystems.

Fostering Collaboration and Security Awareness

A standout point from the discussion is the importance of collaboration across organizational roles—from compliance officers to database managers and security teams. By fostering a culture of continuous learning and teamwork, businesses can better allocate resources and adapt to evolving security priorities.

Embracing Security's Ever-Changing Nature

The conversation concludes with a powerful reflection on the unpredictable nature of cybersecurity. As new threats and technologies emerge, organizations must remain adaptable, forward-thinking, and prepared for the unexpected to stay ahead in an ever-changing security landscape.

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Guest: Terry Ray, SVP Data Security GTM, Field CTO and Imperva Fellow [@Imperva]

On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-ray/

On Twitter | https://twitter.com/TerryRay_Fellow

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Data Security Posture Management — DSPM. What, why, when, and how: All The Insights You Need To Know | An Imperva Brand Story Conversation with Terry Ray

The latest episode of Redefining CyberSecurity on ITSPmagazine featured a thought-provoking discussion about integrating human factors into secure software development. Host Sean Martin was joined by Dr. Kelsey Fulton, Assistant Professor at the Colorado School of Mines, and Julie Haney, a computer scientist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology. The conversation explored how human-centered approaches can strengthen secure software practices and address challenges in the development process.

A Human-Centered Approach to Security

Dr. Fulton shared how her research focuses on the human factors that impact secure software development. Her journey began during her graduate studies at the University of Maryland, where she was introduced to the intersection of human behavior and security in a course that sparked her interest. Her projects, such as investigating the transition from C to Rust programming languages, underscore the complexity of embedding security into the software development lifecycle.

The Current State of Secure Development

One key takeaway from the discussion was the tension between functionality and security in software development. Developers often prioritize getting a product to market quickly, leading to decisions that sideline security considerations. Dr. Fulton noted that while developers typically have good intentions, they often lack the resources, tools, and organizational support necessary to incorporate security effectively.

She highlighted the need for a “security by design” approach, which integrates security practices from the earliest stages of development. Embedding security specialists within development teams can create a cultural shift where security becomes a shared responsibility rather than an afterthought.

Challenges in Adoption and Education

Dr. Fulton’s research reveals significant obstacles to adopting secure practices, including the complexity of tools and the lack of comprehensive education for developers. Even advanced tools like static analyzers and fuzzers are underutilized. A major barrier is developers’ perception that security is not their responsibility, compounded by tight deadlines and organizational pressures.

Additionally, her research into Rust adoption at companies illuminated technical and organizational challenges. Resistance often stems from the cost and complexity of transitioning existing systems, despite Rust’s promise of enhanced security and memory safety.

The Future of Human-Centered Security

Looking ahead, Dr. Fulton emphasized the importance of addressing how developers trust and interact with tools like large language models (LLMs) for code generation. Her team is exploring ways to enhance these tools, ensuring they provide secure code suggestions and help developers recognize vulnerabilities.

The episode concluded with a call to action for organizations to support research in this area and cultivate a security-first culture. Dr. Fulton underscored the potential of collaborative efforts between researchers, developers, and companies to improve security outcomes.

By focusing on human factors and fostering supportive environments, organizations can significantly advance secure software development practices.

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Guests: 

Dr. Kelsey Fulton, Assistant Professor of Computer Science at the Colorado School of Mines

Website | https://cs.mines.edu/project/fulton-kelsey/

Julie Haney, Computer scientist and Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program Lead, National Institute of Standards and Technology [@NISTcyber]

On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/

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Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]

On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin

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From Code to Confidence: The Role of Human Factors in Secure Software Development | Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series with Co-Host Julie Haney and Guest Kelsey Fulton | Redefining CyberSecurity with Sean Martin

Are you ready to "geek out" on 5G with my guests and me? Good!

Put your thinking caps on and get ready to explore the world of 5G connectivity and all of the benefits it brings to society. Don't worry, though; we also take a good, hard look at how it changes the way we look at connectivity, data transport, data storage, data sovereignty, integrity, and more—all through the double lens of security and privacy.

We don't hold back during this conversation as we cover the following topics, and more:

 • We get a brief history of 1G to 5G: what's changed and what have we learned since
 • What makes 5G so unique, and why are "odd G's" something of which to take notice?
 • What are some use cases and case studies in play today, and what can we expect to see in the near future?
 • Have we baked enough security and privacy into 5G to make a difference as we enter the world of "everything connected" in IT, OT, IoT, and beyond?

If you can’t tell from this list, I’m very serious; we do get into some of the technical aspects of this, which makes it a fascinating conversation while also setting the stage to understand the full impact 5G will have on the security CIA triad: Confidentiality, Integrity, and Availability.

Now, it's time to use your (likely 5G-connected) device and have a listen.

Ready? Go! Press play!

Guests
Patrick English, British Telecom

Jason Hoffman, MobiledgeX, Deutsche Telekom

Chris Novak, Verizon Enterprise Solutions

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5G: Impact Of Speed & Scale On Security & Privacy | Redefining CyberSecurity With Patrick English (British Telecom), Jason Hoffman (Deutsche Telekom), Chris Novak (Verizon)

In today's episode, we get to connect with Ramy Katrib, Founder & CEO, and Nancy Jundi, COO - both of DigitalFilm Tree in Los Angeles.

How do CEOs and their executive-level peers make decisions about their cybersecurity investments and how do the project and measure what is the outcome for that investment?

Ramy and Nancy recognized the value of information security early on in the company’s development and found that investments in a combination of traditional infosec technologies and customized in-house-developed cybersecurity capabilities proved to be a competitive differentiator viewed as a luxury service by their clients.

Join us for a great story about telling — and protecting — the stories we see on TV, the big screen, and connected devices.

Guest(s)
Ramy Katrib, CEO | Nancy Jundi, COO

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The Value Of Investing In CyberSecurity — A Story About Stories In Film And Television Production | Redefining CyberSecurity With Ramy Katrib And Nancy Jundi

Once upon a time—not that long ago—the Information Security field had no rules, definitions, tools, or framework, and it was a new frontier to be discovered and conquered. Now, looking back, we sure have come a long way.

In this episode of the Business of Security channel, we travel in time with Matthew Rosenquist. Together we take a look back to understand how we got to today and what the future of Security and the CISO role is going to be.

Back then, individuals and teams were undoubtedly working on risk mitigation, controls implementation, and fraud management, but it was a reactive and binary approach to problem-solving. As we compare and contrast the past to the present, it's hard to imagine the similarities from a security program definition and execution perspective; many today complain that their teams are overwhelmed with data, events, and incidents, creating burnout. Looking back, being overwhelmed by data wasn't really possible as the sources of data, types of data, and quantity of data can't even compare to what teams are dealing with today.

As complexity, experience, business models, and technology solutions grew, philosophy and methodology had to change and mature with the technology and the business drivers that have transformed the security field in today's reality.

Today's Security Management must be driven by business values and a proactive mentality. We are starting to see that in many industry verticals, advanced technologies, privacy, policies, etc.

We will never win or even catch up when we're reactive.

"That's the first challenge, I think, in anyone's career. Where are you passionate? What are you good at? How are you going to contribute? You're not going to solve the world. Right? But you play a role. You're a piece in a bigger puzzle; find out where you fit and go with it." —Matthew Rosenquist

"We never catch up when we're reactive. And, unfortunately, there's an axiom in our industry: security's never relevant until it fails. We need to break that axiom. We need to start thinking about the risks. And we're starting to do that." —Matthew Rosenquist

Guest
Matthew Rosenquist, CISO at Eclipz.io

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From Reactive To Proactive — The Evolution Of Security And Of The CISO Role | Redefining CyberSecurity With Matthew Rosenquist

Zero Trust sounds impressive and futuristic, but it isn't really a new concept — and what does it actually mean? It is not that different from past trust models such as Trust But Verify and Least Privilege.

So, here we are once again, stating the obvious: if we don't think differently about the problems we face, we're not going to be able to solve them.

Security practitioners and managers are bombarded by marketing messages that require decoding and interpretation, and how to make a decision is more than a matter of trust v literally. Do they listen to analysts, vendors, auditors, their peers, or their gut?

Security professionals and their teams are expected to keep up with the changes as new industry reports come out and new technologies are brought to market. Still, they are often forced to continuously think differently about the problems they face in a confusing, distracting, and counterproductive way. This is simply not good for our industry nor our businesses' security.

In today's episode, we muse and question the status quo that has characterized our industry for the past 20 years. We go beyond this debate and beyond the Zero Trust concept to look at how organizations should evaluate not just their tech stack but also their teams, operations, and processes. We reflect on where trust fits in, how it plays a crucial role in a security program, and why it isn't binary in nature.

Yes, you must think differently, but it's not a good idea to rely on others to think differently for you. Think for yourself and your organization — as you are the one that knows what matters the most for your business.

Then, put your thinking cap on and enjoy this episode of Redefining Security.

"You have this perfect plan, but then you hit the real world and no plan survives contact with the enemy." —Dr. Zulfikar Ramzan

"Why do we keep doing this? We continue to chase technology. Why do we not think about the human? Why do we think about the process and procedures? Zero Trust would be great if we could actually know where the hell all the data was inside an environment." —Chris Roberts

"We are our own worst enemy. We produce something that is beautiful in our head, but it doesn't work in practice." —Francesco Cipollone

"We're always looking for the easy button as an industry and then blame vendors when they buy the easy button and it doesn't work." —Siân John

Guest(s)
Siân John | Zulfikar Ramzan | Chris Roberts | Francesco Cipollone

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Zero To Trust In 60 Seconds | The Race To Overcoming Our Cybersecurity Challenges | Redefining CyberSecurity With Siân John, Zulfikar Ramzan, Chris Roberts, And Francesco Cipollone

Cybersecurity and business haven't played the same game — mostly because they did not understand each other. Thankfully, these days, security can not only be the business protector but a driving force for growth.

We often hear stories about digital transformation and moving on-premises data centers to the cloud, but seldom get to listen to some of the specifics for many of these business-defining projects. Who's involved and how are these critical relationships established and maintained are essential factors to understand the real value an InfoSec team can bring to the business.

CISOs and their business peers that fail to connect the dots between cyber risk management and the business objectives can actually be doing the business a disservice, namely with the language, the jargon, and the mysteriousness about what both sides are trying to accomplish. Let's face it, many organizations don't realize it, but they are making things too complicated.

Listen to today's story to hear how our guest, Joshua Scott (former Realtor.com’s CISO), supported the business, making things really simple to understand while providing quick feedback that allowed the organization to move things along and grow.

Ultimately, it was about establishing relationships and open communications across the organization that reduced operational burden while also reducing the potential impact of a threat.

"Really getting the organization to care about security was hard; it was really hard. That's why I started focusing on understanding what was important to them."—Joshua Scott.

Guest
Joshua Scott, former CISO, Realtor.com

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Simplifying Information Security And Making It A Business Driver | Redefining CyberSecurity With Joshua Scott

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Chris Pierson, Founder and CEO of BlackCloak [@BlackCloakCyber]

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Daniel Floyd, CISO of BlackCloak [@BlackCloakCyber]

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