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Real Vision Podcast Network

Raoul Pal: The Journey Man

Raoul Pal sits down with Martin DeVido, creator of Sol the Tomato, who built a system allowing the AI model Claude to autonomously grow and care for a tomato plant using sensors, cameras, and automated controls. Raoul and Martin dig into machine intelligence, emotional behavior in AI, and how AI agents could reshape everything from agriculture to crypto-driven capital formation. Recorded on March 3, 2026.

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AI Is Now Farming — And It’s Just Beginning

The Exponential age is here and accelerating, bringing developments humanity is simply not ready for. In a special crossover episode of the Journey Man and The Exponentialist, Raoul Pal sits down with David Mattin, founder of New World Same Humans and technology lead at Global Macro Investor, for a deep dive into the world of AI, tech, crypto, evolution, consciousness and why humans have a thing or two to learn from sharks and crocodiles.If you find this type of conversation stimulating, now is the best time to join the Exponentialist, an independent service co-founded by Raoul and David that helps you position for the Economic Singularity. AI and Big Tech are reshaping markets, the economy, and the world as you know it. You can’t stop it — but you can prepare, and profit. Through March 9, get 15% OFF a 6-month membership or 25% OFF 12 months. Everything you need to understand the shift and supercharge your trading. Sign up at realvision.com/exponentialist

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We're Not Ready for This

Raoul welcomes back Emad Mostaque, Founder and CEO of Intelligent Internet, to catch up on the latest developments regarding AI and what it all means for the future of the global economy. Recorded on February 20, 2026.
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The AI Intelligence Tsunami Is Here

Raoul welcomes back Andreas Steno to dig into the macro big picture. From the business cycle and liquidity to Andreas's bar-bell approach to the market, they get into it all. Recorded on February 18, 2026.

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Why the Nasdaq Could Surge Again

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Raoul Pal welcomes Evgeny Gokhberg, founder of the DeFi hedge fund Re7Capital, to discuss building a market-neutral yield strategy that earns double-digit returns by managing smart contract risk, diversifying across platforms and chains, and treating crypto as liquid venture investing. They also debate whether the current crypto drawdown is a broken cycle or a liquidity-driven, mid-cycle correction, concluding that fundamentals remain strong despite extreme price volatility. Recorded on February 4, 2026.

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Inside a DeFi Hedge Fund: Risk Management in a 24/7 Market ft. Evgeny Gokhberg

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On the latest episode of The Journey Man, filmed with a live audience at Crypto Gathering 2026 in Miami, Raoul Pal sits down with Jordi Visser, head of AI macro nexus research at 22V, to discuss the commodity supercycle, the advancements in robotics and AI, the abundance vs. scarcity trade, the decline of software companies, and much more. Recorded January 24, 2026.

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Timestamps:
00:00 Abra Sponsor
00:54 Welcome to The Journeyman
02:38 Macro, Crypto & AI Converge
05:06 Silver: The Metal Behind AI
08:00 The $85T AI Buildout
11:05 Resources, Geopolitics & Power
14:20 Europe’s Strategy vs the US
17:16 AI = Deflation Shock
20:19 Why Long-Duration Assets Break
23:02 Scarcity vs Abundance Investing
26:13 Stimulus, Politics & the AI Race
29:04 Why Silver Is Non-Negotiable
32:17 Is Software Actually Investable?
35:44 Agents Replace SaaS
38:53 Why Big Tech Can’t Adapt Fast Enough
42:05 Commodities: Rent or Own?
45:26 Solar, Power & Grid Bottlenecks
48:39 Energy Taxes & AI Economics
50:14 AGI Fears & the Human Question
53:18 Advice for Gen Z
55:22 AI as a Learning Weapon
56:49 NFTs as Cultural Memory
57:38 Final Thoughts & Outro

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The Metal Trade That Could Unlock AGI ft. Jordi Visser

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⚪ Raoul Pal welcomes Alex Gurevich, founder and CIO at HonTe Investments, to discuss the second edition of his book, "The Next Perfect Trade." Raoul and Alex also explore how classic macro frameworks like risk parity and duration investing are colliding with a new era defined by AI, deflation, and massive liquidity responses. Recorded on January 19, 2026.
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The Next Perfect Trade (And Why It Only Happens Once a Decade)

🔥 Get my FREE PDF report https://rvtv.io/3YOZZUe. Welcome to Drinks with Raoul, Round 21... and the first live AMA of the year, coming to you straight from Crypto Gathering 2026 in Miami Beach.

☀️ In this special kickoff episode, Raoul lays out the case for why the macro cycle has shifted to a 5-year structure, what that means for crypto and global markets, and why 2026 is the year liquidity returns in force. It’s a message of clarity, optimism, and opportunity at a time when many are still stuck in short-term fear.

☀️ As always, you’ll get Raoul’s unfiltered thoughts on market structure, cultural shifts, a little chaos, and some high-quality Miami vibes and questions from our LIVE audience at the Loews hotel in South Beach. This is the start of something big!

Grab a drink. Tune in live. Let’s begin!

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🔴 URGENT: Drinks With Raoul Pal LIVE from Miami

☀️ Crypto Gathering Miami 2026: not everyone wants the full conference sprint. That’s why there’s the Social Pass ($300): welcome drinks, beach party, and Drinks with @RaoulGMI LIVE 🍷 
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⚪ Real Vision co-founder and CEO Raoul Pal sits down with digital artist and writer Mark Wilson, better known as DieWithTheMostLikes, for a wide-ranging conversation on art, identity, and the attention economy. From his roots in Middle America to years spent grinding through a soul-crushing corporate job, Mark shares his unlikely journey to becoming one of the most distinctive voices in digital art.
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Die With the Most Likes: Art in the Digital Age

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When it comes to the AI race, Jeffrey Quesnelle, co-founder and CEO of Nous Research, thinks there's no stopping it. However, he is on a mission to ensure nation-states don't control it through a select few companies. On the latest Raoul Pal the Journey Man, he speaks about the need for decentralized, open-source AI, and how his company is trying to make it happen as it competes with centralized AI titans.
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Why the Nasdaq Could Surge Again

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