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Real Vision Podcast Network

Raoul Pal: The Journey Man

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From the vault: An episode that's more important than ever right now... This week, we're breaking open the vault to revisit Raoul's seminal thesis. With rapid technological innovations already reshaping our world, it’s clear we’re headed for the moment when existing economic and financial frameworks will be made obsolete. That’s the Economic Singularity, and it’s closer than you think. According to Raoul, recognizing the effects of the retirement crisis and the rise of digital assets is key to understanding where we’re headed — and how to profit from it. Originally released August 12, 2024. 

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📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. Bitwise has over $10 billion in assets under management and over 100 people in the US and Europe to help manage everything from ETFs to private alpha strategies to SMAs for large investors. Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

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URGENT: 3 Reasons Why 2030 Will Disrupt Your Financial Life Forever

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Raoul Pal sits down with Tiago Sada, chief product officer at Tools for Humanity, to discuss how Worldcoin is tackling the biggest challenges of our transition to a digital future. From AI identity verification to global crypto adoption, they examine the role of digital ID, the infamous Orb, and why building a verified human network could reshape the internet, the global economy, and society itself. Recorded on August 6, 2025.

👉 Connect with the World Network:
Web: https://world.org/
X: https://x.com/worldcoin
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@worldnetworkofficial

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault onchain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3, critical for the next wave
of institutional-grade use cases. With backing from top-tier investors including Dragonfly, Polychain, Binance Labs, and Coinbase Ventures, Axelar is enabling the next generation of financial infrastructure: from multichain stablecoins to tokenized real-world assets (RWAs), built with security,
compliance, and enterprise scale in mind. To learn more, visit https://realvision.com/axelar or follow on X @axelar.

📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. Bitwise has over $10 billion in assets under management and over 100 people in the US and Europe to help manage everything from ETFs to private alpha strategies to SMAs for large investors. *Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them*. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. Whether you’re a seasoned trader in the Futures arena or brand new, Plus500’s user-friendly trading platform offers you the advanced tools, market insights, and quick execution you’ve been looking for. Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠⁠ Trading in futures involves the risk of loss.

Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 

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Connect with me:
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi/ 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ 

My other work:
Real Vision: https://rvtv.io/3LHYIaH 
Global Macro Investor: https://globalmacroinvestor.com
The Exponentialist: https://realvision.com/thefuture
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How World Network Wants to Change the World ft. Tiago Sada from World Network

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With RV co-founder and CEO Raoul Pal currently on vacation, he's decided to re-release this classic interview with Punk6529 from 2022, straight from the Real Vision vault. NFTs are roaring back, making now the perfect time to revisit the discussion that helped inform Raoul's own thoughts on the digital asset space.

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3, critical for the next wave
of institutional-grade use cases. To learn more, visit https://realvision.com/axelar or follow on X @axelar.

📣 VeChain has been delivering real-world blockchain utility since 2015, long before the hype. From powering supply chains and carbon tracking to food safety and enterprise tools, its protocol is proven, scalable, and trusted. Now, it enters a new era: “VeChain Renaissance”, powered by the VeBetter ecosystem and an ambitious technical roadmap. The next phase has already landed: Stargate - VeChain’s new staking program. To read more, visit: https://www.stargate.vechain.org

📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. Bitwise has over $10 billion in assets under management and over 100 people in the US and Europe to help manage everything from ETFs to private alpha strategies to SMAs for large investors. *Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them*. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. Whether you’re a seasoned trader in the Futures arena or brand new, Plus500’s user-friendly trading platform offers you the advanced tools, market insights, and quick execution you’ve been looking for. Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠⁠ Trading in futures involves the risk of loss.

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Connect with me:
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI 
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ 

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RV Classic: Ethereum & the Future of the Internet ft. punk6529

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Join us as we revisit the best moments from The Journey Man throughout July. From deep macro insights to bold crypto predictions and breakthrough tech trends, Raoul Pal takes us on a thought-provoking ride across standout episodes:

⚪ Drinks with Raoul (Round 17) 

https://youtube.com/live/vVxRzRjle5k?feature=share

⚪ Charles Cascarilla
https://youtu.be/QAnnt10CXNE

⚪ Jordi Visser:
https://youtu.be/juI2PciuWn8

⚪ Julien Bittel + Felix Jauvin:
https://youtu.be/za3jRoO2X2U

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. Whether you’re a seasoned trader in the Futures arena or brand new, Plus500’s user-friendly trading platform offers you the advanced tools, market insights, and quick execution you’ve been looking for. Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠ Trading in futures involves the risk of loss.

📣 Today’s sponsor is DeleteMe. Take control of your data and keep your private life private by signing up for DeleteMe. Now at a special discount for our listeners. Today get TWENTY PERCENT off your DeleteMe plan by texting VISION to 64000. The only way to get twenty percent off is to text VISION to 64000. That’s VISION to 64000. Message and data rates may apply.

Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 

🍌 Get your Banana Zone swag at the Real Vision merch store: https://shop.realvision.com

Connect with me:
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi/ 
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ 

My other work:
Real Vision: https://rvtv.io/3LHYIaH 
Global Macro Investor: https://globalmacroinvestor.com
The Exponentialist: https://realvision.com/thefuture
EXPAAM: https://expaam.com

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July 2025: Raoul Pal The Journey Man's Monthly Recap

Raoul Pal sits down with Brett Tejpaul, Head of Coinbase Institutional, to explore how the firm is quietly building the financial infrastructure of the future. From stablecoins and tokenization to institutional crypto adoption and derivatives, Tejpaul reveals how Coinbase is positioning itself at the heart of crypto's exponential growth. Recorded on July 10, 2025.

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault onchain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3, critical for the next wave
of institutional-grade use cases. To learn more, visit https://realvision.com/axelar or follow on X @axelar.

📣 VeChain has been delivering real-world blockchain utility since 2015, long before the hype. Now, it enters a new era: “VeChain Renaissance”, powered by the VeBetter ecosystem and an ambitious technical roadmap. The next phase has already landed: Stargate - VeChain’s new staking program. To read more, visit: https://www.stargate.vechain.org

📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions.. Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering
a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Since 2018, Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets—setting the gold standard for responsible lending in the crypto space. And, Ledn doesn’t just talk security—they prove it. Ledn offers Proof-of-Reserves reports, verified by a top accounting firm, every six months. Visit https://ledn.io to learn more.

📣 Arch Public: It’s a hedge fund in your pocket. Built for retail traders, designed to outperform Wall Street. Arch Public has released a groundbreaking algorithm for SUI on Kraken; turning volatility into extraordinary returns that include both cash yield and asset accumulation. Here are the raw numbers: CAGR 42% Cash Yield 97%. Try it for free at https://realvision.com/arch

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. Whether you’re a seasoned trader in the Futures arena or brand new, Plus500’s user-friendly trading platform offers you the advanced tools, market insights, and quick execution you’ve been looking for. Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠ Trading in futures involves the risk of loss.

Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 

Connect with me:
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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi/

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Exclusive: Inside Coinbase’s Institutional Crypto Strategy ft. Brett Tejpaul

🔥 *Get free access to Real Vision:* https://rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw. On the latest Journey Man, Raoul welcomes Sandy Kaul, head of innovation at Franklin Templeton, to discuss how a traditional firm like hers is preparing for the on-chain world, and how the future economy and the world of investing could be upended. Recorded on July 1, 2025.

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault onchain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3, critical for the next wave
of institutional-grade use cases. With backing from top-tier investors including Dragonfly, Polychain, Binance Labs, and Coinbase Ventures, Axelar is enabling the next generation of financial infrastructure: from multichain stablecoins to tokenized real-world assets (RWAs), built with security,
compliance, and enterprise scale in mind. To learn more, visit https://realvision.com/axelar or follow on X @axelar.

📣 VeChain has been delivering real-world blockchain utility since 2015, long before the hype. From powering supply chains and carbon tracking to food safety and enterprise tools, its protocol is proven, scalable, and trusted. The next phase has already landed: Stargate - VeChain’s new staking program. To read more, visit: https://www.stargate.vechain.org

📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering
a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Since 2018, Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets—setting the gold standard for responsible lending in the crypto space. Visit https://ledn.io to learn more.

📣 Arch Public: It’s a hedge fund in your pocket. Built for retail traders, designed to outperform Wall Street. Arch Public has released a groundbreaking algorithm for SUI on Kraken; turning volatility into extraordinary returns that include both cash yield and asset accumulation. Here are the raw numbers: CAGR 42% Cash Yield 97%. Try it for free at https://realvision.com/arch

Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries.
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The Future Economy is Decentralized ft. Sandy Kaul

🔥 Get free access to Real Vision: https://rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw. Raoul Pal & Julien Bittel join Forward Guidance to break down the “Everything Code”—a radical macro framework explaining why debt, demographics, and liquidity now drive everything in markets. From asset debasement to why diversification is gone, they unpack how fiat is losing purchasing power at 8% a year, why crypto and tech are the only assets that matter, and what the looming economic singularity means for your future. 

Connect & Follow Felix & Forward Guidance:
Felix: https://x.com/fejau_inc
Forward Guidance YT: https://twitter.com/ForwardGuidance 
Blockworks: https://twitter.com/Blockworks_ 

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. 👉 Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3, critical for the next wave
of institutional-grade use cases. 👉 To learn more, visit https://realvision.com/axelar or follow on X @axelar.

📣 VeChain has been delivering real-world blockchain utility since 2015, long before the hype. From powering supply chains and carbon tracking to food safety and enterprise tools, its protocol is proven, scalable, and trusted. Now, it enters a new era: “VeChain Renaissance”, powered by the VeBetter ecosystem and an ambitious technical roadmap. The next phase has already landed: Stargate - VeChain’s new staking program. 👉 To read more, visit: https://www.stargate.vechain.org

📣 Bitwise has been all-in on crypto since 2017 and has more than 20 crypto-based products to help investors get the access they need. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. 👉 *Check out Bitwise at https://bitwiseinvestments.com and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them*. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering
a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Since 2018, Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets—setting the gold standard for responsible lending in the crypto space. And, Ledn doesn’t just talk security—they prove it. Ledn offers Proof-of-Reserves reports, verified by a top accounting firm, every six months. 👉 Visit https://ledn.io to learn more.

👉 Arch Public: It’s a hedge fund in your pocket. Built for retail traders, designed to outperform Wall Street. Arch Public has released a groundbreaking algorithm for SUI on Kraken; turning volatility into extraordinary returns that include both cash yield and asset accumulation. Here are the raw numbers: CAGR 42% Cash Yield 97%. Try it for free at https://realvision.com/arch

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. 👉 Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠ 

Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 
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Forward Guidance w/ Felix Jauvin: The Biggest Trade No One Sees Yet ft. Raoul Pal & Julien Bittel

🔥 *Get free access to Real Vision:* https://rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw. Raoul Pal welcomes Jordi Visser, founder and chief strategist at Visser Labs, to break down why everyone is still stuck in the old economy and why truly understanding AI means immersing yourself in it. Recorded on June 30, 2025.

📣 This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. 👉 Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today https://figuremarkets.onelink.me/Plnq/2uhuytay

📣 *This episode is brought to you by Axelar, a decentralized network and development platform securely connecting the world’s blockchains and financial infrastructure. Its secure, programmable multichain product stack enables seamless interoperability across Web3 — critical for the next wave of institutional-grade use cases. To learn more, visit ⁠⁠https://realvision.com/axelar⁠⁠ or follow on X @axelar.

📣 *This episode is brought to you by VeChain. VeChain has been delivering real-world blockchain utility since 2015, long before the hype. From powering supply chains and carbon tracking to food safety and enterprise tools, its protocol is proven, scalable, and trusted. Now, it enters a new era: “VeChain Renaissance”, powered by the VeBetter ecosystem and an ambitious technical roadmap.With modular upgrades, performance boosts, and the introduction of VeBetterDAO, VeChain is embracing open participation, while keeping the enterprise-grade reliability it’s known for.The next phase has already landed: Stargate - VeChain’s new staking program. 👉 To read more, visit: ⁠https://www.stargate.vechain.org⁠

📣 *This episode is brought to you by Bitwise Asset Management*. Bitwise manages the world’s largest crypto index fund, one of the top Bitcoin ETFs, and one of the largest institutional Ethereum staking solutions. *Check out Bitwise at ⁠⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com⁠⁠ and let them know that Real Vision mentioned them*. Carefully consider the extreme risks associated with crypto before investing.

📣 *This show is sponsored by Ledn.* Ledn is the leading platform for Bitcoin-backed loans, offering a secure and transparent way to unlock liquidity without selling your Bitcoin. Since 2018, Ledn has issued over $9 billion in loans and has never lost a single satoshi of client assets—setting the gold standard for responsible lending in the crypto space. And, Ledn doesn’t just talk security—they prove it. Visit ⁠⁠https://ledn.io⁠⁠ to learn more.

📣 Today’s sponsor is Plus500 US. Take your trading to the next level with cross-market contracts, from precious metals to key indices, and more. Whether you’re a seasoned trader in the Futures arena or brand new, Plus500’s user-friendly trading platform offers you the advanced tools, market insights, and quick execution you’ve been looking for. 👉 Get started with Plus500 for as little as $100 at ⁠https://us.plus500.com⁠ Trading in futures involves the risk of loss.

👉 Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 

Connect with me:
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/RaoulGMI
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/raoulgmi/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/

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AI Agents Are Coming For Your Job (Fast!) ft. Jordi Visser

🔥 *Join Real Vision for FREE to access the Q&A part of the show:* https://rvtv.io/3Y4t5Pw. Raoul talks current price action, Banana Zone status, and how to zoom out.

Round 17 of Drinks with Raoul is here — time to dive deep. Raoul Pal, CEO & Co-Founder of Real Vision, will analyze today’s price movements and revisit the Banana Zone’s current outlook. More importantly, he unpacks the challenge so many face: how to zoom out to see the long-term macro picture amid short-term noise. Expect his signature blend of candid insight, midcurving humor, wine commentary, and alpha-packed analysis. Grab your drink and tune in live…!

📣 *This episode is brought to you by Figure, the platform to Earn and Borrow.* Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 3-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 9.9%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. 👉 Visit https://figure.com/realvision to apply for a Crypto Backed Loan today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit https://figure.com for more information.

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Unlock the potential to showcase your brand to our global audience. Contact us at partnerships@realvision.com for advertising inquiries. 

Connect with me:
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raoul-pal-real-vision/ 

My other work:
Real Vision: https://rvtv.io/3LHYIaH 
Global Macro Investor: https://globalmacroinvestor.com
The Exponentiliast https://realvision/thefuture
EXPAAM: https://expaam.com

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Wen Banana Zone? - Drinks With Raoul Pal (Round 17)

In this wide-ranging conversation, Raoul speaks with Paxos Co-Founder and CEO, Charles Cascarilla, about the evolution of crypto infrastructure, from the early days of Bitcoin mining and blockchain innovation to today's stablecoin landscape. Cascarilla outlines how Paxos is building the neutral, secure infrastructure needed to modernize the global financial system. Recorded on June 25, 2025.

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