What will the media landscape look like as tech companies, as opposed to traditional media, own increasingly more ink? And who better to offer an optimistic take on the news industry’s future than…Kara Swisher?!

Reid and Aria speak with the famous—and famously direct—tech journalist, author, and podcast host about the roles and responsibilities of journalists covering rapidly developing innovations, along with those of the technologists driving advancements. They cover the OpenAI/New York Times lawsuit, disinformation, TikTok legislation, and AI’s potential to improve healthcare and climate outcomes. Plus, Kara makes the case that today’s content creators benefit from staying relatively small vs. striving for scale.

Topics: 3:30 - Hellos and intros 3:54 - Technology that makes Kara optimistic 6:40 - Technology to solve climate change 8:43 - Why health-tech and climate tech inspire optimism 10:09 - State of the media landscape 15:34 - Can smaller-scale media work? 16:56 - Pi weighs in on Patrick Soon-Shiong 19:33 - How will AI impact media misinformation 22:27 - Impact of AI in politics 27:52 - Kara’s latest book 30:36 - Is AI training “stealing”? 37:28 - TikTok ban 42:51 - A question for Reid: Is TikTok worth buying? 45:43 - How to shape capitalism 51:30 - Rapid-fire questions

For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/

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What if, in the future, everything breaks humanity's way? Possible is an award-winning, weekly podcast that sketches out the brightest version of the future—and what it will take to get there. Hosts Reid Hoffman and Aria Finger explore what’s possible with forward-thinking leaders, deep thinkers, and ambitious builders across many fields, such as technology, art, education and healthcare. These conversations center on the ways technology—and, in particular, AI—is shaping the future. In episodes, AI tools such as OpenAI’s GPT-4 and Inflection’s Pi are at work, offering informational asides, prompting guests, or demoing what they can do. Lastly, between guest episodes, Aria interviews her co-host Reid on his latest takes on what’s possible if we use technology—and our collective effort—effectively.