In this episode of the Minter Dialogue podcast, I explore the possibilities of delegating the hosting to AI, in the form of Google's NotebookLM. In the ensuing interview that is artificially constructed by two voices, there are two interviews with quite different editorial approaches to exploring my book, "Heartificial Empathy, 2nd edition". The first discussion centres around the potential of empathy as a competitive advantage in a world increasingly dominated by AI and algorithms. Two key points raised include the idea that empathy is not merely a passive feeling but an active process requiring genuine understanding of others' emotions and motivations. The second discussion focuses on more ethical issues and is more critical of my book.... Which do you prefer? One, both or neither? Please drop in your comments and let us know your thoughts/reactions!