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Evergreen Podcasts | Minter Dialogue

With the Minter Dialogue podcast, your host Minter Dial is on a mission to help elevate the debate and insert more meaningfulness into our lives. He gives weekly interviews around leadership, brand strategy and transformation, featuring top business leaders, personalities, entrepreneurs and authors from around the world who are making things happen! This show has had multiple awards and citations over the years, including the #2 Brand Strategy podcast worldwide by Feedspot in 2025 (#1 in the UK), as well as #22 among all Leadership podcasts. It was also listed as a Top 50 leadership podcast by LeadersHum for 2022 and Top 50 Marketing Blog/Podcasts by Linkedin.
Minter Dial is a filmmaker and author of multiple award-winning books, including The Last Ring Home, Futureproof (FT Press), You Lead (Kogan Page) and Heartificial Empathy, 2nd edition (2023). He also hosts The Joy of Padel podcast.
Podcast show notes are on minterdial.com. To rate & review: RateThisPodcast.

Leadership, Brand Strategy & Transformation - Minter Dialogue

In this episode, Sarah Lynn Thomas joins us from Portugal, reflecting on a whirlwind few weeks running retreats across Costa Rica, Mexico, and Europe, and offering rare insight into the world of Behold Retreats—a unique organisation specialising in plant medicine ceremonies. With a Western background in finance and crypto, Sarah Lynn Thomas brings both analytical rigour and deep personal experience to her work, championing ayahuasca, bufo, and psilocybin as powerful catalysts not just for healing trauma and mental health, but for unlocking personal expansion and self-awareness.

The conversation traverses the intricate legal and ethical landscape of plant medicine, delving into why Behold operates in countries like Costa Rica, Mexico, and Portugal, and how the nuances of legality and regulation influence both access and the preservation of traditional practice. Sarah articulates what truly sets Behold apart: a devotion to the integration process—holding participants through the intensity of ceremony, ensuring that transformative insights take root long after they leave the retreat centre.

Listeners are invited behind the curtain to explore the realities of facilitating healing in a global context—from fostering sustainable practices and community alliances to the rigorous screening necessary for safeguarding both individuals and groups. The episode moves beyond stereotypes, shining a light on the practicalities and paradoxes of consciousness work, from managing vulnerability as a leader to the evolving interplay between sovereignty, support, and collaboration.

Whether you’re curious about the intersection of ancient plant wisdom and modern wellbeing, re-evaluating your own relationship with personal growth, or simply seeking a candid dialogue about leadership, accountability, and transformation, this conversation with Sarah Lynn Thomas offers a thoughtful, grounded, and refreshingly human perspective.

From Corporate to Conscious: Sarah Lynn Thomas Redefines Healing at Behold Retreats (MDE655)

In this conversation, Minter Dial is joined by Olivier Hinton, innovation strategist and psychologist, whose cross-Channel upbringing and multinational experience have profoundly shaped his perspective on change and creativity. Drawing from a career spanning France, the UK, Italy and beyond, Olivier Hinton sheds light on why embracing change is fundamental to innovation, and why companies must learn to “zoom out” from what they think they know in order to truly break new ground.

The pair explore the real-world challenges organisations face when shifting from operational excellence to genuine innovation, untangling why it’s so difficult to step away from established routines and the seductive comfort of “if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it.” Olivier Hinton goes behind the scenes of Groupe Zebra’s approach to consulting on innovation and design, stressing the importance of integrating structure, function, and symbolism—not just in products, but in the processes and cultures that bring them to life.

The discussion features candid examples—from the pitfalls of design innovation in everyday products, to the tricky dance of involving legal and financial stakeholders without stifling creative risk. The conversation delves into the influence of company culture, and the necessity of aligning innovation with brand DNA, illustrated by lessons from the likes of Renault and Dyson. Olivier also shares insights into the evolving role of AI, both as an enhancer of human insight and as a tool whose promise is all too often overestimated.

Whether you’re wrestling with innovation briefs, rethinking your approach to leadership, or navigating the tensions between flexibility and backbone, this episode is brimming with fresh perspectives on building tomorrow’s business. Tune in as Minter Dial and Olivier Hinton challenge the buzzwords, uncover the thorny realities, and offer pathways to more human-centred, commercially viable innovation.

From Design Mantras to Cultural Insights Olivier Hinton’s Approach to Meaningful Innovation (MDE654)

In this episode, Minter Dial welcomes renowned opera director and scenic visionary Julia Burbach for an illuminating exploration into the artistry, psychology, and leadership behind the world’s grandest stages. With an international upbringing and an academic background straddling history, law, and diplomacy, Julia has forged a distinct path in opera—blending creative storytelling with the demands of team-building, risk-taking, and finely-tuned human management.

Julia Burbach sheds light on the curious duality her role demands: balancing her personal, often private, creative instincts with the high-wire act of corralling diverse, multinational teams towards a coherent vision. The conversation gets under the skin of the creative process, revealing how self-confidence, intuition, and strategic risk all play vital roles in bringing complex productions to life. She opens up about her family’s artistic heritage, the incremental nature of building confidence as a woman in a traditionally male world, and the invisible strategies behind navigating egos on and off the stage.

The dialogue also delves into broader questions facing the operatic world: from the practicalities of working with singers (who are cast before directors even join projects), to the challenges of accessibility and relevance in an era of mounting political and financial pressures. Julia shares her belief in the healing power of beauty and the timeless draw of communal artistic experience, all while offering candid insights on diplomacy, team selection, and what it takes to sustain emotional realism in the heart of fiction.

Whether you are a business leader searching for lessons on human management, a creative wrestling with risk and intuition, or simply curious about how opera adapts for survival in turbulent times, this episode offers rare perspectives from behind the curtain. Join Minter Dial as he ventures into the messy, exhilarating, and deeply personal world of opera with Julia, whose career stands testament to the enduring value of collective endeavour and artistic courage.

Behind the Curtain: Julia Burbach on Creativity, Risk, and Teamwork in Opera Direction (MDE653)

In this conversation, Minter Dial sits down with Leilani Garrett, founder of Be More Human, former technology sales executive, and accomplished novelist. Drawing from over thirty years of experience navigating the corporate world and her journey as a writer, Leilani Garrett explores the transformative power of storytelling in fostering radical empathy, not just as a tool for innovation and growth, but as a blueprint for uplifting one another in life and work.

The exchange delves deeply into what it means to be human—and indeed, “more human”—both in the workplace and society at large. Leilani Garrett unpacks the tension between authenticity and the performative masks many adopt to succeed at work, reflecting on her own experiences balancing ambition, identity, and creativity within traditionally male-dominated corporate structures. Together, they question how we define “us” and “them”, address the importance of curiosity over judgement in divided times, and probe how leaders and teams can unlock greater cohesion, trust, and innovation by truly listening to the stories of others.

From the challenges of integrating side hustles and creative pursuits with high-powered careers, to the cultural impact of major tech mergers, and the courage it takes to reveal oneself through creative work, this episode is rich with nuanced insight and practical wisdom. For those seeking to lead with empathy, to navigate the complexities of identity in modern organisations, or to find their authentic voice amidst conformity, this episode offers inspiration and a fresh perspective on what it means to thrive as a human being—at work and beyond.

The Transformative Power of Storytelling: Leilani Garrett’s Path to Radical Empathy (MDE652)

In this episode, Minter Dial welcomes back Rana Gujral, entrepreneur and longtime AI innovator, for a probing discussion around his new book, The AI Instinct: The Future of AI and Human Decision Making. With over two decades of hands-on experience building advanced cognitive systems, Rana unpacks how artificial intelligence is subtly entering—and even reshaping—the loop of human perception, attention, and judgement.

The conversation delves into the heart of hybrid cognition, as Rana argues that the next frontier isn’t man or machine alone, but the emergence of coupled human–AI systems. Drawing on both practical business experience and philosophical inquiry, he explores the dangers and promise of this integration: how AI tools extend and sometimes diminish our cognitive abilities, the emergence of artificial general experience (AGE) as a more meaningful benchmark than AGI, and what it means for team accountability when no single agent is fully in charge. The pair discuss the new challenges of agency and autonomy in a world where algorithms can sculpt our attention before we even realise it, and consider the critical importance of transparency, audit trails, and ethical guardrails in high-stakes environments.

Whether you are wrestling with the practicalities of AI-enabled decision making, concerned about the future of human agency, or simply curious about how emotional signals and synthetic voices are shaping our everyday lives, this episode is an invitation to reflect on what makes us human in the age of the algorithm. Tune in as Speaker A and Rana debate the boundaries, responsibilities, and real-world implications of artificial intelligence—and offer a timely framework for leading and living alongside machines.

The AI Instinct and Hybrid Cognition Redefining Human Agency and Experience with Rana Gujral (MDE651)

In this episode, Minter Dial welcomes AI creative technologist and community builder Rebecca Rowntree, whose journey bridges advertising, technology, and the world of creative collaboration. Rebecca Rowntree shares her experiences founding Get Shit Done, a thriving WhatsApp-based creative community, and explains how her background as a bilingual creative director informs her approach to culture-driven campaigns for leading brands like Nike, PlayStation, and Kellogg's.

The conversation unfolds into Rebecca Rowntree’s work with AI assistants, revealing practical ways for individuals and businesses to build proprietary tools that reflect their personality, values, and empathy. She highlights the importance of human-centered prompting in AI, demystifies memory and context in large language models, and champions diversity in the tech space—especially the crucial need for women’s voices in shaping the future of AI.

Minter Dial and Rebecca Rowntree also explore the ethical complexities of emotionally resonant advertising, why balancing creativity and technology matters, and how the intimacy of platforms like WhatsApp enables authentic connection and support in an overwhelming digital landscape. Listeners learn how curiosity, empathy, and even anger can fuel meaningful action—both in business and life.

Whether you’re a marketer grappling with AI integration, a founder searching for the right community, or simply curious about how technology can become more human, this episode offers real-world advice and plenty of inspiration. Tune in as Minter Dial and Rebecca Rowntree dissect the promise and pitfalls of AI, creativity, and cultural connection in today’s fast-moving world.

Making AI More Human: Rebecca Rowntree’s Framework for Brand Voice and Community Building (MDE650)

In this conversation, Minter Dial welcomes transformational leadership expert Scott Burgmeyer, co-CEO of the Become More Group and co-author of several impactful books on organizational growth and effectiveness. Together, they unpack the journey behind the Become More Group’s formation, the philosophy driving its evolution, and the intersection of operational rigor with human-centric leadership.

Scott Burgmeyer shares hard-earned insights from decades of working with teams and executives: from the art of co-writing books and managing creative egos, to the real-world challenges leaders face in balancing curiosity with having a backbone. The discussion delves into the nuances of feedback, the importance of recognizing and addressing self-imposed barriers, and the delicate act of creating cultures that blend authenticity with performance.

Minter and Scott explore how leaders can truly engage high-performers, navigate shifting boundaries around personal and professional identities, and why deep thinking—and even deeper conversation—are more crucial than ever in today’s business climate. Scott also introduces the concept of a Chief Optimization Officer, the vital (and often missing) role in driving sustained organizational improvement.

If you’re leading a team, wrestling with organizational change, or striving to build more honest and effective relationships at work, this episode is filled with real talk, relatable frameworks, and actionable guidance. Tune in as Minter Dial and Scott Burgmeyer challenge the status quo, offering practical wisdom for anyone aiming to help themselves or their organization “become more.”

Rethinking Leadership: Culture, Feedback, and Boundaries in Modern Organizations with Scott Burgmeyer (MDE649)

In this episode, Minter Dial welcomes Peter Tonagh, acclaimed Australian business leader and board chair, recognized for his transformative roles at organizations like Boston Consulting Group, Foxtel, News Corporation, and Quantium. Drawing on a career that spans high-level consulting, operational leadership, and deep experience in media and technology, Peter Tonagh shares his journey from a small-town upbringing to the C-suite, highlighting the key experiences that shaped his leadership ethos.

In this thoughtful conversation, Peter unpacks the real-world challenges of moving from consulting into operational roles, revealing why decision overload, people management, and culture are often underestimated hurdles for new executives. The discussion explores Peter’s evolution in understanding brand—not as a static asset, but as the living sum of every customer interaction—and illustrates how building authentic partnerships with employees and suppliers is vital for business success.

Minter and Peter also delve into the realities of governance, the role of boards, and the necessity of balancing compliance with innovation in today’s turbulent business landscape. With a sharp focus on purpose and organizational DNA, Peter shares why aligning personal and corporate purpose is crucial for high-performing leadership and how psychological safety and authentic culture underpin diversity and team success.

The conversation culminates with an exploration of artificial intelligence: Peter offers pragmatic frameworks for AI adoption, urging leaders to see non-adoption as the bigger risk. He shares practical methods for keeping AI productive and safe—such as building personal digital twins and placing a human firmly “in the loop.” Brimming with actionable leadership insights, hard-won lessons on brand and culture, and an energizing vision for AI-driven transformation, this episode is essential listening for anyone navigating disruption, building teams, or driving innovation at scale.

Shaping Culture and Brand: Peter Tonagh on Leadership, Transformation, and AI Adoption (MDE648)

In this episode, Minter Dial welcomes adaptive entrepreneur and designer Justin Hai for a wide-ranging conversation that traverses the intersections of technology, stress, and the role of beauty and creativity in modern life. Justin Hai draws from his diverse background—spanning RISD design training, entrepreneurship, and the launch of Rebalance Health—to unpack his latest book, Stress Nation: Escape the Technology Trap, Eliminate Stress, and Reclaim Rest. Together, they explore the profound impact of technology and modern routines on our biological stress responses, with Justin Hai offering a refreshingly nuanced take on cortisol, sleep, and daily resilience.

The discussion dives deep into how technology habits are rewiring our brains, why willpower alone isn’t enough to break free, and the power of routines in restoring balance. Justin Hai challenges conventional thinking about beauty, productivity, and what it means to be adaptive—not only in business, but in navigating everyday pressures. Minter Dial and Justin Hai also tackle leadership in a hyperconnected world, discussing practical systems leaders can implement to safeguard their teams against burnout and stress.

This episode is packed with actionable advice, personal stories, and an invitation to rethink the boundaries between tech, creativity, and well-being. Whether you’re a leader seeking healthier routines for your organization, a parent managing devices at home, or simply grappling with the demands of the digital age, tune in as Minter Dial and Justin Hai share strategies and perspectives for reclaiming rest, joy, and connection amidst relentless technological noise.

Cortisol, Creativity, and Connection: Justin Hai’s Blueprint for Reclaiming Rest and Reducing Stress (MDE647)

In this conversation, Minter Dial welcomes leadership expert and coach Tess Fyalka, author of Walking the Leadership Ledge, who brings deep insight from years of cultivating leaders, especially those navigating the challenges of stepping into new management roles.

Through their dynamic exchange, Tess Fyalka reveals her passion for empowering emerging leaders to find their unique leadership voice rooted in courage, authenticity, and compassion. Together, they unpack the realities of the "messy middle"—that liminal space where new managers must reconcile their own values with inherited company cultures, internal politics, and the sometimes conflicting styles of bosses above and teams below. The discussion highlights practical strategies to build team alignment, navigate organizational dysfunction, and foster genuine trust, not just as abstract values on a wall but as lived, actionable behaviors.

Minter and Tess also delve into the art (and struggle) of delegation, reframing it as a tool for engagement and growth—for both employee development and for leaders seeking to avoid burnout. Tess introduces her concept of the “leadership ledge” as a metaphor for the uncertainty leaders face, and offers pragmatic advice on balancing courage with compassion, flexibility with resolve, and self-reflection with action.

Whether you’re a newly minted manager, an experienced leader aiming to polish new facets, or someone seeking to drive authentic purpose in your organization, this episode brims with straight-talking wisdom and practical tools. Join Minter Dial and Tess Fyalka as they strip away the myths of 20th-century command-and-control leadership and chart a path for resilient, human-centered leadership in today’s ever-changing world.

From Corporate to Conscious: Sarah Lynn Thomas Redefines Healing at Behold Retreats (MDE655)

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