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Jocko DEFCOR Network


Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.


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Every decision has consequences—and the small decisions made repeatedly can eventually shape your entire life. Jocko and Echo break down how to make better decisions under uncertainty, when to trust experience and intuition, how to avoid paralysis through analysis, and why effective leaders take action, learn, and adapt.

00:00 — Decisions: The Choices That Shape Your Life

03:33 — How the Marine Corps Teaches Decision-Making

11:50 — Take the Initiative: Keep Them on Their Heels

18:14 — Logic, Intuition, and Emotion

24:57 — Analytical vs. Instinctive Decision-Making

26:28 — Stop Overthinking. Take a Small Action.

34:26 — Detachment: The Decision-Making Superpower

41:34 — The 70% Solution: Stop Waiting for Perfect

46:07 — The OODA Loop: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act

58:46 — Adapt Faster Than the Situation Changes

1:01:23 — Failure, Fear, and Learning Through Action

1:06:13 — Small Decisions, Fast Feedback, Constant Adjustment

1:15:37 — When Being Too Adaptable Becomes a Problem

1:17:59 — Wargaming: Prepare for What Could Go Wrong

1:20:38 — Jocko’s Extreme Ownership Leadership Loop

1:22:29 — Don’t Get Stuck. Make the Decision. Act.

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557: Stop Waiting for the Perfect Answer. Go.

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The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed. 

Maxed out for time, but training for a personal challenge.

How to solve a problem riddled worker on your team.

When a workout partner doesn't have as much dedication.

Got beat up by my wife's guy friend.

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Jocko Underground: The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed.

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Continuing examination of René Quinton's Maxims on War, exploring courage, danger, ambition, leadership, obedience, and the randomness of combat. The discussion ultimately comes back to a powerful principle for war and everyday life: learn to distinguish real danger from the danger created by your imagination.

00:00 — Maxims on War: Extreme Views and Human Nature

 05:34 — War, Death, and the Randomness of Combat

 16:57 — Courage, Promotion, and the Danger of Ambition

 23:27 — Bravery, Jealousy, and the Power of Example

 28:51 — When Danger Becomes Real

 34:22 — Real Danger vs. Imagined Danger

 40:20 — Courage vs. Recklessness

 48:44 — The Leader Multiplies the Team

 51:07 — Why It's Easier to Obey Than Decide

 57:25 — Questioning Orders and the Burden of Command

 1:04:55 — Cowardly Leaders and Decentralized Command

 1:11:25 — Do Hard Things. Don't Let Fear Stop You.

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556: The World Belongs to the Brazen and The Brave.

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René Quinton’s extreme ideas about war, human nature, struggle, and heroism. They examine why humans are drawn to conflict and why a life of comfort may be something worth fighting against.

0:00 – René Quinton & Maxims on War

 4:21 – Does Human Nature Love War?

 13:22 – Competition vs. Collaboration

 16:10 – The Male Psyche: Friend or Foe

 24:05 – Why Men Seek Risk, Combat & Danger

 31:00 – Tribalism, Fighting & Understanding Jiu-Jitsu

 37:04 – Service, Sacrifice & the Nature of Heroes

 49:44 – Success, Wealth & Why the Process Matters

 58:57 – What Makes a Hero?

 1:07:02 – War, Hardship & Why We Reject the Easy Life

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555: The Nature Of Man Is War

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What is the safety protocol for your kids when they are on their own.

Training Jiu Jitsu with limitations.

The difference between a leadership failure and a hiring failure.

How to eliminate crippling doubt while achieving your goals in life.

What to do if you suspect your leadership is working against you .

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Jocko Underground: The Safety Protocol for Your Kids When They're On Their Own.

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Breaking down raw, firsthand combat lessons from U.S. Army soldiers fighting their way through World War II—lessons written in the field by men who had just experienced the consequences of good decisions, bad decisions, aggression, hesitation, discipline, and leadership.

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554: Maximum Efficiency On The Front Lines of Battle and Life

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Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill.

The best way to get forgiveness after terrible behavior in the past.

Thoughts on the worries of climate change and the worlds problems.

How to save your marriage if it's on thin ice.

Sacrificing sleep for more time during the day.

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Jocko Underground: Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill.

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Book: Unheard Voices The Fight For Ramadi: A Soldier’s Memoir From Combat Outpost Falcon

 In 2006, Miguel “Pitbull” Santana and his soldiers entered Ramadi, Iraq—a city many believed was already lost. What followed was months of relentless combat, sacrifice, loss, and brotherhood. Miguel joins Jocko to tell the story from the ground: the firefights, the men who saved each other's lives, the leaders who went first, and the bonds that remain unbroken twenty years later. 

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553: Becoming Brothers Through Battle, Death, and Honor in Ramadi. With Miguel "Pitbull" Santana.

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People don't want to learn about what's coming in the future.

The differences in our definition of "Leadership".

How to get your kids to take on interests that stick.

What to do when you've outgrown the drinking crowd.

What to do if you have trust issues with women.

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Jocko Underground: Why Do People Refuse to Learn or Talk About The Future Of The World Around Us?

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Being a sniper isn't just about shooting. It's about observation, patience, preparation, adaptability, and making the right decision at exactly the right moment. Jocko and JP Dinnell explore the unseen skills behind elite snipers, telling stories from combat while revealing how those same habits create success in leadership, business, and life.

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552: How The Mindset of A Sniper Apply to Life. With JP Dinnell.

Ed Thelander is a retired Navy SEAL, small businessman, volunteer firefighter, reserve deputy sheriff, loving father, and devoted husband. He has never sought political office before but is answering the call to serve his country once more.

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356: We Can Determine What Manner of Men We Will Be. With Ed Thelander

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