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It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it's evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

It Could Happen Here

In the fourth installment of his series on the Darién Gap, James talks to migrants at Lajas Blancas reception center north of the Darién, who can often be stuck there for months without the money to continue their journeys.
 
Original Air Date: 10.31.24
 
Sources:
 
https://www.notiparole.com
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5
 
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html
 
https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/
 
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino
 
https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border
 
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/
 
https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/
 
https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one
 
https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html
 
https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf
 
https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers
 
https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama

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CZM Rewind: As If We Had Been Imprisoned: The Migrant Reception Center

In part three of his series on the Darién Gap, James talks about what drives Venezuelan and African migrants to make the journey through the Darién Gap.
 
Original Air Date: 10.30.24
 
Sources:
 
https://www.notiparole.com
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5
 
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html
 
https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/
 
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino
 
https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border
 
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/
 
https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/
 
https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one
 
https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html
 
https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf
 
https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers
 
https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama

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CZM Rewind: They Don’t Care About Us: What Migrants Leave Behind

In the second part of his series on the Darién Gap, James looks at the impacts of migration on the indigenous Panamanian Emberá community.
 
Original Air Date: 10.29.24
 
Sources:
 
https://www.notiparole.com
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5
 
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html
 
https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/
 
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino
 
https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border
 
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/
 
https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/
 
https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one
 
https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html
 
https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf
 
https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers
 
https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama

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CZM Rewind: We Are All Brothers: How the Emberá Community of Bajo Chiquito Welcomes Migrants in the Darién Gap

Margaret reads you part two (of two) of her own story.

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CZM Book Club: Everything that Isn't Winter, by Margaret Killjoy, Part Two

In the first of five episodes, James describes his journey to the Darién gap in Southern Panama, and the journeys that thousands of migrants take each week on one of the most dangerous land migration routes on earth.
 
Original Air Date: 10.28.24
 
Sources:
 
https://www.notiparole.com
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaDkSwh1Jk/?igsh=bmgyanBteW10czd5
 
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/09/20/archives/a-new-canaldug-by-atom-bombs-nuclear-energy-is-the-key-to-replacing.html
 
https://www.themanual.com/outdoors/darien-gap-feature/
 
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/18/panama-darien-gap-jose-raul-mulino
 
https://americasquarterly.org/article/the-darien-gaps-fearsome-reputation-has-been-centuries-in-the-making/
 
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/10/27/the-darien-gap-a-deadly-extension-of-the-us-border
 
https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/supporting_resources/jmhs.pdf
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/snakes-swamps-whisky-british-explorers-went-ultimate-boys-adventure/
 
https://www.strausscenter.org/publications/asylum-processing-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-august-2024/
 
https://www.gob.mx/inm/prensa/el-gobierno-mexicano-y-el-inm-articulan-corredor-emergente-de-movilidad-segura-para-el-traslado-de-personas-extranjeras-con-cita-cbp-one
 
https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-03-23/kidnapping-and-escape-of-95-ecuadorian-migrants-in-chiapas-if-you-continue-informing-we-will-return-them-in-bags.html
 
https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Asylum-Policies-Harm-Black-Asylum-Seekers-FACTSHEET-formatted.pdf
 
https://respondcrisistranslation.org/en/newsb/cbp-ones-obscene-language-errors-create-more-barriers-for-asylum-seekers
 
https://www.msf.org/lack-action-sees-sharp-rise-sexual-violence-people-transiting-darien-gap-panama

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CZM Rewind: The Green Hell: Migration Through the Darién Gap

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.
 
Orignal Air Date: 9.9.25
 
Sources:
 
https://thebaffler.com/latest/whats-the-matter-with-abundance-harris?ref=newintermag.com
 
https://newintermag.com/abundance-big-techs-bid-for-the-democratic-party/#fn16
 
https://archive.vn/zgPJ8
 
https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Abundance-Ecosystem-Report-Final.pdf
 
https://www.semafor.com/article/08/17/2025/with-the-argument-the-left-gets-a-new-publication
 
http://www.thinktankwatch.com/2022/01/washingtons-newest-think-tank-institute.html
 
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/venture-capital-extremism
 
https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/
 
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis
 
https://www.abundancedc.org/speakers
 
https://www.vcinfodocs.com/the-tech-fascist-axis
 
https://archive.vn/GKRmw#selection-377.0-377.19
 
https://www.theargumentmag.com/about
 
https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/
 
https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/dc-attorney-general-inks-first-settlement-realpage-price-fixing-lawsuit-2025-06-02/
 
https://www.economicliberties.us/press-release/economic-liberties-launches-2025-end-rental-price-fixing-campaign/
 
https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/cea/written-materials/2024/12/17/the-cost-of-anticompetitive-pricing-algorithms-in-rental-housing/
 
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters
 
https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realpage-algorithmic-pricing-scheme-harms-millions-american-renters
 
https://techfascism.substack.com/p/the-network-state-and-infrastructure

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CZM Rewind: Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals

Dana El Kurd speaks with Ben Lorber, Senior Research Analyst at Political Research Associates and co-author of Safety through Solidarity: A Radical Guide to Fighting Antisemitism. They discuss trends in antisemitism we are seeing today, why the far right is talking about Palestine, and how establishment organizations are not meeting the moment. 
 
Sources:
 
Jewish Currents article by Mari Cohen on the ADL - https://jewishcurrents.org/the-adls-antisemitism-findings-explained 
 
Jewish Currents article by Shane Burley and Naomi Bennett on the ADL - https://jewishcurrents.org/examining-the-adls-antisemitism-audit 
 
Safety through Solidarity book - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/741043/safety-through-solidarity-by-shane-burley/ 
 
Article by Ben in Convergence Magazine on What Antisemitism Is and Isn’t – https://convergencemag.com/articles/what-antisemitism-is-part-1/ 
 
Nexus Project - https://nexusproject.us/ 
 
Diaspora Alliance - https://diasporaalliance.co/ 
 
Jewish Currents podcast on the confronting the anti-zionist right - https://jewishcurrents.org/confronting-the-anti-zionist-right 
 
Arielle Angel on the need for new Jewish institutions - https://jewishcurrents.org/we-need-new-jewish-institutions 

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Antisemitism in America feat. Dana El Kurd

Margaret reads you part one (of two) of her own story about post-apocalyptic love and violence

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CZM Book Club: Everything that Isn't Winter, by Margaret Killjoy, Part One

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 
 
- The Tech Fascist Takeover of the Media
 
- Strikes, Walkouts, and Union Busting At Nestlé's Blue Bottle
 
- Grenada with Andrew, Pt. 1
 
- Grenada with Andrew, Pt. 2
 
- Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #46
 
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Sources/Links:
 
The Tech Fascist Takeover of the Media
 
https://www.niemanlab.org/2025/10/nbc-and-cbs-cuts-hit-race-and-culture-verticals/
 
https://archive.ph/gg6UO#selection-471.223-471.275
 
https://tech.yahoo.com/social-media/articles/elon-musk-reportedly-helped-larry-112145682.html
 
https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/ceos-everything-david-larry-ellison-oracle-skydance-paramount-kimmel-carr.php
 
https://archive.ph/xBjST
 
https://www.niemanlab.org/2025/10/nbc-and-cbs-cuts-hit-race-and-culture-verticals/
 
https://www.theroot.com/massive-black-firings-at-cbs-but-what-about-gayle-king-2000070868
 
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/23/media/ellison-wbd-trump-warner-bros-discovery-bid
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/gayle-king-leaving-cbs-mornings-b2855747.html
 
https://www.status.news/p/washington-post-layoffs-cuts-morale
 
https://x.com/JeffBezos/status/1894757287052362088
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/07/nyt-opinion-bennet-resigns-cotton-op-ed-306317
 
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/10/media/trump-cnn-sold-paramount-warner-bros-netflix
 
https://fortune.com/2025/09/28/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-oracle-tiktok-deal-social-media/
 
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/new-york-times-bari-weiss-resigns-360730
 
https://newrepublic.com/article/203758/bari-weiss-cbs-news-strategy
 
https://nwasianweekly.com/2025/10/nbc-news-dissolves-asian-america-blk-latino-and-out-teams-in-sweeping-cuts/
 
Strikes, Walkouts, and Union Busting At Nestlé's Blue Bottle
 
Website: bluebottleunion.org
Strike fund: tinyurl.com/bbiu-strike
 
Want to organize your store? Email us at bluebottleunion@gmail.com with the Subject Line: [Your city] Barista Interest
 
Grenada with Andrew
 
Grenada: Revolution and Invasion by Patsy Lewis et al
 
None Shall Escape by Fundi
 
Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #46
 
https://gothamist.com/news/ice-enters-nyc-shelters-armed-and-without-judicial-warrants-reports-show
 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/designating-fentanyl-as-a-weapon-of-mass-destruction/ 
 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/restricting-and-limiting-the-entry-of-foreign-nationals-to-protect-the-security-of-the-united-states/ 
 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70255703/united-states-v-dugan/ 
 
https://bsky.app/profile/klasfeldreports.com/post/3ma4gf7vm772z 
 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71930356/pablo-pablo-v-lyons/ 
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g562vz34ro

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It Could Happen Here Weekly 213

The gang discuss escalation with Venezuela, an AI executive order, the trial of Judge Dugan, the mass shooting at Brown University, and a new travel ban.
 
Sources:
 
https://gothamist.com/news/ice-enters-nyc-shelters-armed-and-without-judicial-warrants-reports-show
 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/designating-fentanyl-as-a-weapon-of-mass-destruction/ 
 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/restricting-and-limiting-the-entry-of-foreign-nationals-to-protect-the-security-of-the-united-states/ 
 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70255703/united-states-v-dugan/ 
 
https://bsky.app/profile/klasfeldreports.com/post/3ma4gf7vm772z 
 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71930356/pablo-pablo-v-lyons/ 
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g562vz34ro

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Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #46

Robert and James sit down with Marianna Wright (director of the Butterfly Center) and Jenn Budd (a former Border Patrol officer) to talk about the newest anti-migrant fuckery at the U.S. / Mexico border.

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The Deadly New Underwater Border Fence

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