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OH NO MEDIA

A True Crime podcast with a hint of horror and mystery. Join Payton Moreland as she delves into a different case each week, breaking down the facts and pondering on the age old question, “Why do people do what they do?”. Payton also periodically discusses conspiracy theories, hauntings, and all things spooky… so go ahead and walk with her every Wednesday further Into The Dark.

Into The Dark

In this episode, Payton unpacks the chilling case of Charles Wilding, a reclusive man ensnared by a deadly con.

 

Links:

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intothedarkpod/

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Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7

Case Sources:

People – https://people.com/woman-sentenced-scam-dead-mans-home-8611468 

LA Times - https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-18/fake-will-ghost-guns-a-missing-body-what-happened-to-charles-wilding 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-18/she-sold-his-encino-home-out-from-under-him-for-1-5-million-then-he-killed-himself 

https://www.newspapers.com/image/1131309087/?match=1&terms=%22Caroline%20Herrling%22 

New York Post - https://nypost.com/2024/03/25/us-news/squatter-left-dead-mans-body-in-luxury-la-home-in-elaborate-scheme-to-take-over-property/ 

ABC 7 - https://abc7.com/caroline-joanne-herrling-carrie-phenix-fake-wills-real-estate-scam/14542948/ 

LA Magazine - https://lamag.com/crimeinla/squatters-organized-crime-la-grifters-thieves-murderers-take-over-homes

Daily News - https://www.dailynews.com/2023/02/17/west-hills-woman-allegedly-scammed-millions-in-real-estate-assets-from-dead-men/ 

Law and Crime - https://lawandcrime.com/crime/like-a-cash-register-fraudster-took-over-home-of-man-who-later-mysteriously-died-dismembered-body-and-dumped-parts-in-san-francisco-bay/ 

State of California Department of Justice - https://oag.ca.gov/missing/person/charles-wilding 

United States Attorney’s Office - https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/west-hills-woman-who-disposed-one-victims-body-sentenced-20-years-federal-prison 

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118. The Woman in a Dead Man’s Home

Payton examines the eerie 911 call of a man claiming he was attacked by a grizzly bear. But when authorities arrive, the scene tells a different story—one steeped in deception, and a trail that leads to something far more sinister.

Links:

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Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-dark/id1662304327

Listen on spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/36SDVKB2MEWpFGVs9kRgQ7

Case Sources:

WIS 10 - https://www.wistv.com/2024/11/15/monroe-county-murder-suspects-wife-arrested-warrant-says/ 

People - https://people.com/accused-identity-thief-who-called-911-staging-fake-bear-attack-is-arrested-for-murder-8743309

NBC WBIR 10 News - https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/monroe-county-victim-identified-as-steven-douglas-lloyd/51-d39d71f4-dac0-4912-90b4-3246d2fbf937 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubjXoTS57L0 

CBS News - https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/hiker-killed-in-staged-tennessee-bear-attack-identified-nationwide-manhunt-continues/ 

Daily Dodge - https://dailydodge.com/suspect-accused-of-murdering-man-to-steal-his-identity-captured-following-weekslong-manhunt/ 

Knox News - https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2024/11/10/south-carolina-police-capture-murder-suspect-wanted-in-bear-911-call/75916755007/ 

WHRO Public Media - https://www.whro.org/2024-11-12/a-man-told-911-a-bear-chased-him-off-a-cliff-weeks-later-he-was-arrested-for-murder 

New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/11/us/fake-bear-attack-murder-tennessee-arrest.html 

WVLT 8 - https://www.wvlt.tv/2024/11/04/beloved-son-monroe-county-sheriffs-office-identifies-murder-victim-suspect-still-large/ 

Pew Research - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/ 

Fox 54 News Huntsville - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvMzr2Vaan8 

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123. The Grizzly Cover Up - Steven Douglas Lloyd

On this mini-series of Binged, Payton discusses killers who found their victims via the internet. Starting with John Edward Robinson.

Case Sources:
Anyone You Want Me To Be: A Shocking True Story of Sex and Death on the Internet (2003, Scribner), by Stephen Singular and John Douglas

Internet Slave Master: A True Story of Seduction and Murder (2011, St. Martin's True Crime), by John Glatt

Serial Killer Quarterly Vol.1 No.1: “21st Century Psychos” (2014), by Katherine Ramsland, Michael Newton, Lee Mellor, Robert J. Hoshowsky, Kim Cresswell, Curtis Yateman, Aaron Elliott

cnn.com, "Friends of victim shared e-mail exchanges with accused serial killer," by Sue Miller Wiltz, October 9, 2002

abc.com, ABC 20/20, "Sole Survivor," aired November 4, 2012 (https://abc.com/shows/2020/episode-guide/2019-10/04-sole-survivor)

newyorker.com, "The Tech Industry's Gender-Discrimination Problem," by Sheelah Kolhatkar, November 13, 2017

newspapers.com citations:

Rick Montgomery and Greg Kuhl, “Kansas Prison Awaits a Convincing Talker,” The Kansas City Star, 31 May 1987, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/680305752/ : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, pp. 1B, 12B.

“Cicero Scout Will See Queen,” Berwyn Life, 13 Nov 1957, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/524288482 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.2

“Eagle Scout Is Soaring—He'll See Liz,” Chicago Tribune, 12 Nov 1957, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/372743820 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, Part 3—Page 11

“Group for Disabled Honors Area Man',” The Kansas City Times, 8 Dec 1977, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/677413258 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.3A

Mack Alexander, “Man-of-the-Year Ploy Backfires on 'Honoree',” The Kansas City Star, 20 Dec 1977, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/677408491 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.3

Associated Press, “Robinson awaits trial on 3 victims in Missouri',” St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 3 Nov 2002, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/142090360 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.C2

Associated Press, “Kansas man charged in 5 'barrel murders'',” St. Joseph News-Press, 14 Jun 2000, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/563563051 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.A3

Tony Rizzo, “'Fortunate Twist' Pointed Police Toward Robinson',” The Kansas City Star, 26 Jan 2003, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/687344190 : accessed 19 October 2022); citing print edition, p.A1

wikipiedia.org, John Edward Robinson

charleyproject.org, Paula G. Godfrey

charleyproject.org, Lisa Stasi

charleyproject.org, Catherine F. Clampitt
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1. Internet Killers: The Slavemaster

On this mini-series of Binged, Payton discusses killers who found their victims via the internet.

Case Sources:
The One Who Got Away: Escape from the Kill Room (2016, Gilles Tetreault), by Gilles Tetreault

The Devil's Cinema: The Untold Story Behind Mark Twitchell's Kill Room (2012, McClelland & Stewart), by Steve Lillebuen

wikipedia.org, Mark_Twitchell

Newspapers.com sources:

Joseph Brean, “Bizarre slaying mirrored film: police,” National Post, 3 November 2008, archived (https://www.newspapers.com/image/514796036), citing print edition, pp.1-2 
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2. Internet Killers: Darkly Dreaming Mark

On this mini-series of Binged, Payton discusses True Crime cases that you have probably heard of, but through a new lens… starting with Adam Walsh.

Case Sources:

justiceforadam.com

Hollywood Police Department, Hollywood Florida — Adam Walsh investigation case files

wikipedia.org, Hollywood_Fashion_Center

youtube.com, channel: Willis Morgan, “Lisa Craven Interviews Florida Turnpike Witness Thomas Hayslip,” 20 June 2019

youtube.com, channel: Willis Morgan, “Witness Denis Bubb Talks About the Adam Walsh Case,” 13 Dec 2021

www.local10.com, Michelle F. Solomon, "The Florida Files — Episode One: A trip to Sears changes everything," 16 July 2018

https://media.local10.com/document_dev/2018/07/16/Detective%20Mark%20Smith%27s%20Report%20on%20Abduction%20and%20Murder%20of%20Adam%20Walsh_1531752751748_12372182_ver1.0.pdf

www.tampabay.com, "Walsh case evidence long gone to junkyard," 20 February 1996”

Newspapers.com sources:

Fort Lauderdale News, "Search fails to find Hollywood boy," 28 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233272115), citing print edition, p.3B

The Miami News, "Boy, 6, missing from Hollywood," 28 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/302180921), citing print edition, p.5A

Dan Ray and Zita Arocha, The Miami Herald, "Six-year-old was kidnapped, police believe," 29 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/629479756), citing print edition, pp. 1BR, 7BR

Jim Rogers and Stephen d'Oliveira, Fort Lauderdale News, "Search continues for lost boy," 3 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233237690), citing print edition, p.2B

Dan Christensen, Fort Lauderdale News, "Woman sought in Walsh case," 6 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233255542), citing print edition, p.1B

Stephen d'Oliveira, Fort Lauderdale News, "Adam's body found," 11 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233432066), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 5A

Bill Luening, The Miami Herald, "Walsh story shares anguish with nation," 10 October 1983, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/626610458), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 8A

Ronnie Greene and Robyn Marx, The Atlanta Constitution, "Vanishing evidence," 21 February 1996, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/403491789), citing print edition, p.B5

David Smiley and Arthur Jay Harris, The Miami Herald, "Murder Revisited: Who Really Killed Adam Walsh?," 28 March 2010, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/659410473), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 18A
 

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6. Solved or Unsolved - Adam Walsh, Pt. 1

On this mini-series of Binged, Payton discusses True Crime cases that you have probably heard of, but through a new lens… starting with Adam Walsh.

Case Sources:

justiceforadam.com

Hollywood Police Department, Hollywood Florida — Adam Walsh investigation case files

wikipedia.org, Hollywood_Fashion_Center

youtube.com, channel: Willis Morgan, “Lisa Craven Interviews Florida Turnpike Witness Thomas Hayslip,” 20 June 2019

youtube.com, channel: Willis Morgan, “Witness Denis Bubb Talks About the Adam Walsh Case,” 13 Dec 2021

www.local10.com, Michelle F. Solomon, "The Florida Files — Episode One: A trip to Sears changes everything," 16 July 2018

https://media.local10.com/document_dev/2018/07/16/Detective%20Mark%20Smith%27s%20Report%20on%20Abduction%20and%20Murder%20of%20Adam%20Walsh_1531752751748_12372182_ver1.0.pdf

www.tampabay.com, "Walsh case evidence long gone to junkyard," 20 February 1996”

Newspapers.com sources:

Fort Lauderdale News, "Search fails to find Hollywood boy," 28 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233272115), citing print edition, p.3B

The Miami News, "Boy, 6, missing from Hollywood," 28 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/302180921), citing print edition, p.5A

Dan Ray and Zita Arocha, The Miami Herald, "Six-year-old was kidnapped, police believe," 29 July 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/629479756), citing print edition, pp. 1BR, 7BR

Jim Rogers and Stephen d'Oliveira, Fort Lauderdale News, "Search continues for lost boy," 3 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233237690), citing print edition, p.2B

Dan Christensen, Fort Lauderdale News, "Woman sought in Walsh case," 6 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233255542), citing print edition, p.1B

Stephen d'Oliveira, Fort Lauderdale News, "Adam's body found," 11 August 1981, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/233432066), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 5A

Bill Luening, The Miami Herald, "Walsh story shares anguish with nation," 10 October 1983, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/626610458), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 8A

Ronnie Greene and Robyn Marx, The Atlanta Constitution, "Vanishing evidence," 21 February 1996, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/403491789), citing print edition, p.B5

David Smiley and Arthur Jay Harris, The Miami Herald, "Murder Revisited: Who Really Killed Adam Walsh?," 28 March 2010, archived (www.newspapers.com/image/659410473), citing print edition, pp. 1A, 18A
 
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7. Solved or Unsolved - Adam Walsh, Pt. 2

On this episode of Binged, Payton dives into Unidentified Serial Killers ending with the infamous Zodiac Killer and how maybe he’s not all he’s cracked up to be.
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Case Sources:
Motor Spirit: The Long Hunt for the Zodiac (2022, We Heard You Like Books), by Jarett Kobek

How to Find Zodiac (2022, We Heard You Like Books), by Jarett Kobek

Zodiac (1986, St. Martin’s Press), by Robert Graysmith

This is the Zodiac Speaking (2008), feature documentary film, directed by David Prior

https://web.archive.org/web/20070304084921/http://www.clint.ca/zodiac/lakeherman.htm

zodiacciphers.com

zodiackillerciphers.com

zodiackiller.com

thequesterfiles.com

wikipedia.org, Zodiac Killer

wikipedia.org, Murder_of_Cheri_Jo_Bates

historiesandmysteries.blog/2020/01/07/the-murder-of-ray-davis/
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9. Unidentified Serial Killers - Zodiac Killer

Continuing our lost and found theme, Payton discusses the disappearance and murder of Lou Ellen Burleigh and the I-5 serial killer.
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Case sources:
The People of the State of California vs. Roger Reece Kibbe

Trace Evidence (1998, Scribner), by Bruce B. Henderson

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009363/Lou-Ellen-Burleighs-remains-34-years-later.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Kibbe

Forensic Files, episode "Knot for Everyone," aired October 8, 1998 on TLC

Profiling Evil: Confessions of the I-5 Strangler, aired November 18, 2012 on MSNBC

web.archive.org/web/20121004102145/http://www.believermag.com/exclusives/?read=excerpt_strand

Newspapers.com sources:

www.newspapers.com/image/692581819

www.newspapers.com/image/735980714

www.newspapers.com/image/692484878

www.newspapers.com/image/692484967

www.newspapers.com/image/631803906

www.newspapers.com/image/644028944
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17. Lost and Found: Lou Ellen Burleigh

On this episode, Payton delves into the chilling account of how a police officer's obsession spiraled into a web of deception, ultimately leading to a tragic and deadly outcome.
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Episode Sources:

The Investigators, episode: “Badge of Dishonor,” aired 12/23/2002 on CourtTV

A Warrant to Kill: A True Story of Obsession, Lies and a Killer (2000, William Morrow), by Kathryn Casey

Murder Behind the Badge True Stories of Cops Who Kill (2010., Prometheus), by Stacy Dittrich

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/tx-court-of-appeals/1448581.html

http://truecrimediscussions.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-death-of-susan-white.html
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31. The Bad Guy in a Uniform

On this episode of Binged, Payton discusses the case of a mother who happened to catch the gaze of a deranged man who wanted to live out his dark fantasy. 
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Episode Sources

Forensic Files, episode: “Shopping Spree,” aired December 10, 2001 on CourtTV.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caleb_Fairley

Encyclopedia of World Crime: Criminal Justice, Criminology, and Law Enforcement (1999, History, Inc.), by Jay Robert Nash

murderpedia.org/male.F/f/fairley-caleb.htm

inquirer.com/philly/home/A-playground-like-no-other-where-murder-oasis-of-unbridled-play-.html

findagrave.com/memorial/7056668/lisa-marie-manderach

mcall.com/1995/09/17/murder-suspect-lived-life-of-ridicule-fantasies/

www.talkmurderwithme.com/blog/2021/3/18/caleb-fairley

inquirer.com/philly/home/A-playground-like-no-other-where-murder-oasis-of-unbridled-play-.html

phillynjcrime.wordpress.com/2018/01/16/the-murder-of-lisa-and-devon-manderach/

Newspapers.com sources:

www.newspapers.com/image/177798402

www.newspapers.com/image/178021355

www.newspapers.com/image/178183390

www.newspapers.com/image/178021355

www.newspapers.com/image/178021207

www.newspapers.com/image/178140579
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33. The Vampire Behind The Register

*This case involved Children*

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On this episode of Binged, Payton discusses the devastating murder of 4-year-old, Derrick Robie.

Case sources:
murderpedia.org/male.S/s/smith-eric-m.htm

cbsnews.com/news/eric-smith-murderer-parole-derrick-robie

Youthful Prey: Child Predators Who Kill (2008, Hove), by Carol Anne Davis

Teen Crime Wave: A Growing Problem (1997, Enslow Publishers), by Jeffrey A. Margolis

Serial Murderers and Their Victims (2016, Cengage Learning), by Eric W. Hickey

Kids Who Kill (1997, Twenty-First Century Books), by Herma Silverstein

The Loss of Innocents: Child Killers and Their Victims (2000, Scholarly Resources), by Cara Elizabeth Richards

Newspapers.com sources:

newspapers.com/image/138214829

newspapers.com/image/278723602

newspapers.com/image/278195238

newspapers.com/image/278195661

newspapers.com/image/138214877

newspapers.com/image/255773303

newspapers.com/image/278195751

newspapers.com/image/278196372

newspapers.com/image/278196737

newspapers.com/image/278197652

newspapers.com/image/278197660

newspapers.com/image/278198415
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23. Kids Murdering Kids: Derrick Joseph Robie

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