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Best friends Joel and Matt are the co-hosts of How to Money which is all about providing the knowledge & tools that normal folks need to thrive in areas like debt payoff, DIY investing, and crucial money tricks that will provide continuous help along your journey. We believe that access to unbiased and jargon-free personal finance guidance is more necessary than ever before. When you handle your money in a purposeful, thoughtful way that works for your lifestyle, you can really start living a rich life.

How to Money

Let’s kick off the week with some fresh listener questions we have lined up for you! And don't just stand on the sidelines- if you have a question you’d like us to answer, toss your voice memo our way. It only takes about 90 seconds to record and you can find a step by step guide over at HowToMoney.com/ask . Regardless of how random or bizarre you might think it is, we want to hear it!
 
 
 
1 - How hard should I push to be a landlord if I’m able to buy our next house without selling the current house?
 
2 - Should I dial back my investing for the kids’ college given the recent market volatility?
 
3 - What should I do with a recent inheritance of six figures?
 
4 - My daughter is going to Europe for a high school trip- what’s the best way for her to spend while abroad?
 
5 - What’s the most affordable way for my 11 year old to text and call, without internet or social media access?
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
During this episode we enjoyed a Cordial Saison by Burial! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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Ask HTM - Spending Cash Windfalls, Retirement Investing vs College Savings, & So You Think You Can Landlord?! #1024

Time for a Friday Flight- our little sampling of the week’s financial news and what it means for your personal finances. There are a lot of headlines out there, but we boil them down to specific takeaways that will allow you to kick off the weekend informed and help you to get ahead with your money. In this episode we explain some relevant and helpful stories like: ridic Peloton fee, housing boom bust, where home prices go from here, realtors slowly fading away, medical debt to be aware of, contagious financial habits, crypto and private equity in the 401k, crypto mortgage applications, AI-induced outrage, employer perceptions and success, hybrid workdays are out, & infinite workdays are in.
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money. Have an awesome weekend!
 
 
 
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Friday Flight - Housing Boom Busts, AI-Induced Outrage, & Infinite Workdays #1023

We’re glad to have friend of the show and newly married, Nick Maggiulli back on the podcast! He’s been given the nickname Nicky Numbers because he has a special gift for conveying wonky money information in a straightforward and digestible way. We’ve been fans of his blog, Of Dollars & Data, for years now. This episode is for everyone out there who wants to grow their net worth while finding more spending freedom which is our focus today. We discuss plenty of great issues like investing as a couple, prenups, what level of net worth means Nick considers to be middle class, how a Jay-Z lyric provides spending freedom, Nick’s favorite flavor of FIRE, biggest reasons individuals fall down the wealth ladder, what skills it takes to get you to the different levels of the wealth ladder, and much more!
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Find a thriving community of fellow money nerds by joining the 
HTM Facebook group! • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 • Don’t be cheap and forego getting a life insurance policy. 
Compare rates with Policygenius. 
 
 
And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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Moving Up The Wealth Ladder w/ Nick Maggiulli #1022

Let’s kick off the week with some fresh listener questions we have lined up for you! And don't just stand on the sidelines- if you have a question you’d like us to answer, toss your voice memo our way. It only takes about 90 seconds to record and you can find a step by step guide over at HowToMoney.com/ask . Regardless of how random or bizarre you might think it is, we want to hear it!
 
 
 
1 - How do I calculate whether it’s worth it to jump back into the work force?
 
2 - Should I take out a HELOC on my home in order to pay off other debts?
 
3 - Doesn’t it make sense to take Social Security early, even if the payout is smaller?
 
4 - Is the free life insurance offered to me through my local credit union legit?
 
5 - Can I utilize a “goodwill letter” in order to ask my student loan service to remove a late payment?
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
During this episode we enjoyed a Summer Lihing Mango by Lanikai Brewing! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
Best friends out!

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Ask HTM - Jumping Back Into the Workforce, HELOC Cash Grab, and Free Life Insurance Gotchas #1021

Time for a Friday Flight- our little sampling of the week’s financial news and what it means for your personal finances. There are a lot of headlines out there, but we boil them down to specific takeaways that will allow you to kick off the weekend informed and help you to get ahead with your money. In this episode we explain some relevant and helpful stories like: a 100 year old’s purchasing power, passage of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, boosting SALT deductions, waning EV tax credits, bad RAPs, student loan advice on TikTok, $80 popcorn buckets, Target price match murder, rising Amazon prices, premium points credit cards, and what to do instead!
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money. Have an awesome weekend!
 
 
 
Best friends out!

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Friday Flight - Bad RAPs, Price Match Murder, & Premium Points Credit Cards #1020

Finally… a freshie! We’re done with bestie episodes for the summer and are excited to sit down and fill everyone in on what we’ve been up to for the past six weeks. We recount how lucky and blessed we are to be able to take a break from our 9-5, share some of our favorite ways we saved money while traveling (somehow in our first episode back we managed to discuss Aldi and Costco for those playing HTM bingo at home), and we only begin to touch on some of the lessons and takeaways from our time off. Active volcanoes, beef tongue, regenerative braking, EVs, lunchables, and padcrashing all make an appearance!
 
 
 
Thank you for hanging in there and we are excited to get back to our regularly programmed money earning-saving-spending-investing content. Y’all are the best listeners!
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Find a thriving community of fellow money nerds by joining the 
HTM Facebook group! • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 • Don’t be cheap and forego getting a life insurance policy. 
Compare rates with Policygenius. 
 
 
And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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WE BACK - Frugal Fun, Travel Tips, & Sabbatical Takeaways #1019

We’re glad Ikea exists. The ability for a vast majority of the population to get their hands on some incredibly functional, well designed, and affordable furniture is a good thing. But, you’re also unlikely to pass Ikea furniture down to your kids or for that matter, use it for more than a handful of years. Compare that to a campaign dresser from the 1800s! It’s true that they don’t make them like they used to. The same is true when it comes to modern financial advice. There’s a lot of ‘wisdom’ floating around out there that is self-serving at best, and deceptive and predatory at worst. So in today’s episode we pull some ancient wisdom from the Bible, Stoicism, and other wisdom traditions from hundreds to thousands of years before our time. Then we connect that ancient wisdom to our modern times to help you to determine what you should be doing with your money.
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 • Don’t be cheap and forego getting a life insurance policy. 
Compare rates with Policygenius. 
During this episode we enjoyed an Apricot Crumble by Vitamin Sea Brewing! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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Jesus Christ Super-Saver: Ancient Wisdom & Your Money (Bestie Ep) #1018

Have you ever renovated a home? If so, then you remember all of the decisions that you had to make that initially were a lot of fun. Paint colors, light fixtures, tile, even the kind of toilet you wanted… but eventually it gets old and you just want it done. If you can’t relate, even picking up a loaf of bread at the grocery store can be overwhelming- “Should I get honey wheat, 100% whole wheat, 13 grain, the stuff with flax?!” While it can be nice to have options, complicating things doesn’t always make them better. And when it comes to investing, the opposite is actually true. Decision fatigue is what we’re talking about and there can be so many distractions that keep us from reaching our financial goals. Lump sum vs dollar cost averaging, international stocks, ESG investing, real estate, hiring a financial advisor- these are just a few of the potential distractions that we discuss in today’s episode.
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
During this episode we enjoyed a Symptom of Progeny by Burial! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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How Complicated Should Investing Be? (Bestie Ep) #1017

We’re stoked to be talking with our friend Chad Carson, aka Coach Carson, which is also where you can find him online: CoachCarson.com. We’ve known Chad for years now but just because this feels like a more casual conversation to us, that doesn’t mean that he’s not going to bring the heat! We tout the benefits of small-time real estate investing, but Chad has made it his mission, and it’s the focus of his new book: Small and Mighty Real Estate Investor. During our conversation today Chad describes his experience of living abroad for a year with his family and how investing in real estate made that possible, house hacking as a gateway drug to investing in real estate, the difference between building wealth and achieving freedom, the risk you run by discounting the ‘romance’ of a property, ways to get around the high cost of mortgage lending, why it makes sense to pay off a mortgage early, and much more!
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 
 
 
During this episode we enjoyed a Zeros to Heaven West Coast IPA by Casa Agria! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
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Small But Mighty Real Estate Investing w/ Chad Carson (Bestie Ep) #1016

Cinderella is such an absurd story! Seriously, when you stop and think- it’s pretty messed up: a prince dances with a girl he’s never met before for one night, and then he sends his goons around town to find her so they can get married. There’s a reason you go on dates for at least a few weeks before proposing. You’ve gotta kick the tires and perform some due diligence! Similarly, you might be completely obsessed with the idea of early retirement upon first hearing about it. And articles out there on the web sure do make it sound enticing. And it might be the right move for some folks, but not before thinking it through on a bunch of fronts. So we’re going to offer our thoughts on how to decide if retiring sooner than your peers is a good goal. We’re going to tackle a number of questions both financial in nature (like sequence of returns risk and ‘one more year syndrome’) but also some personal questions as well (like hobbies and how you’ll spend your days), that’ll help you decide if early retirement is a goal worth pursuing.
 
 
 
Want more How To Money in your life? Here are some additional ways to get ahead with your personal finances:
 
 • Knowing your ‘money gear’ is a crucial part of your personal finance journey. 
Start here. • 
 • Sign up for the weekly 
HTM newsletter • . It’s fun, free, & practical.
 • Join a thriving community of fellow money in the 
HTM Facebook group. • Massively reduce your 
cell phone bill • each month by switching to a discount provider like Mint Mobile.
 • Don’t be cheap and forego getting a life insurance policy. 
Compare rates with Policygenius. 
 
 
During this episode we enjoyed a Ferrous by New Park Brewing- thanks for donating this one to the pod Matthieu! And please help us to spread the word by letting friends and family know about How to Money! Hit the share button, subscribe if you’re not already a regular listener, and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Help us to change the conversation around personal finance and get more people doing smart things with their money!
 
 
 
Best friends out!

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Is Early Retirement A Smart Goal? (Bestie Ep) #1015

Over 45 million Americans are saddled with over 1.5 trillion in student loan debt- this is a nationwide epidemic! With such a massive burden, how do you even begin repaying your student loans? Our $Pro this week, student loan expert Meagan Landress, is here to shed some light on the many different student loan repayment programs and how to choose the plan that best fits your financial situation and goals. At the end of this episode we answer some specific student loan related questions from the How to Money Facebook community.

During this episode we each enjoyed a Nostalgia IPA by Slow Pour Brewing which you can learn all about on Untappd. A special thanks to our $Pro Meagan for donating and sharing this beer with us! And if you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and give us a quick review in Apple Podcasts, Castbox, or wherever you get your podcasts- we’d love to hear from you.

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