Today, I’m talking with Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky, who is only the second person to be on Decoder three times — the other is Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg. Brian made a lot of waves earlier this year when he started talking about something called “founder mode,” or at least, when well-known investor Paul Graham wrote a blog post about Brian’s approach to running Airbnb that gave it that name.

Founder mode has since become a little bit of a meme, and I was excited to have Brian back on to talk about it, and what specifically he thinks it means. Talking to Brian is a ride, but I think I held my own, and I think you’ll really like this one.

Links:

Founder Mode | Paul Graham

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky is taking it back to basics (2023) | Decoder

Why the future of work is the future of travel, with Airbnb’s Brian Chesky (2021) | Decoder

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky: ‘I Never Called it Founder Mode’ | Skift

Why Silicon Valley is abuzz over ‘Founder Mode’ | NYT

After Apple, Jony Ive Is Building an Empire of His Own | NYT

Airbnb can now help you find somebody to manage your listing | The Verge

Airbnb creates new chief business officer role | Reuters

Why Jeff Bezos Says Your Goal Is to Make 3 Good Decisions per Day | Inc

Taking the Mystery out of Scaling a Company | Ben Horowtiz

Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/24043611

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