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DataFramed

2025 was another huge year for data and AI. Generative AI continued to reshape how we work and interact with technology, with organizations moving beyond experimentation and pushing AI firmly into production. We saw major progress in foundation models, the rise of long-running AI agents, production-ready generative video, and wider adoption of synthetic data. At the same time, AI literacy, adoption, and ROI became central concerns for boards and executives, not just technical teams.

This time last year, DataCamp Co-Founders Jonathan and Martijn made a series of predictions about data and AI for 2025. Today, they join Richie to reflect on how those predictions played out—and to share their vision for where data and AI are headed next.

In the episode, Richie, Jonathan, and Martijn review the real-world adoption of generative AI, the shift from hype to production, the growing importance of AI literacy and usage at the executive level, the rise of longer-running AI agents, the near-mainstreaming of generative video, Europe’s position in the global AI race, why educators may be among the biggest AI adopters, and why AI hype continues to thrive—plus what they got right, what they got wrong, and what comes next.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

The DataCamp Data & AI Literacy Report 2025AI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Data Trends & Predictions 2025 with DataCamp's CEO & COO, Jonathan Cornelissen & Martijn TheuwissenExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCamp

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Reviewing Our Data Trends & Predictions of 2025 with DataCamp's CEO & COO, Jonathan Cornelissen & Martijn Theuwissen

Self-service analytics has been a goal for data teams for years, but recent advances in AI are accelerating progress in unexpected ways. The combination of natural language interfaces and spreadsheet-like tools is lowering barriers to data access across organizations. But how do you balance the freedom of self-service with the need for governance and accuracy? What skills do analysts need to work effectively with AI systems that don't always produce the same results twice? And when AI-generated answers might be slightly off, how do you know when to trust them?

Mike Palmer is Chief Executive Officer of Sigma , where he leads the company’s strategy and growth as a cloud-native analytics and business intelligence platform. Since joining Sigma in 2020, he has focused on expanding access to cloud data by enabling business users to analyze data warehouses through familiar, spreadsheet-based workflows. Prior to Sigma, Mike served as Chief Product Officer at Druva, where he was part of the executive team scaling the company’s cloud data management platform and supporting rapid revenue growth. Before that, he was EVP and Chief Product Officer at Veritas Technologies, leading the transformation and modernization of a large enterprise data protection portfolio following its separation from Symantec. Earlier in his career, he held senior general management and executive roles at Seagate Technology and Verizon Enterprise Solutions, overseeing large-scale cloud, security, and enterprise infrastructure businesses. Mike is based in San Francisco and has spent his career building and operating enterprise data and analytics platforms at scale.

In the episode, Richie and Mike explore the journey towards self-service analytics, the role of AI in democratizing data access, the challenges of stochastic processes, the evolution of analytics applications, how businesses can leverage AI for personalized insights, the future of enterprise software, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

Sigma 1. Connect with 
MikeCourse: Introduction to SigmaAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Self-Service Generative AI Product Development at Credit Karma with Madelaine Daianu, Head of Data & AI at Credit KarmaExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCamp

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#339 Modern Analytics with Mike Palmer, CEO at Sigma

AI governance is becoming critical as organizations deploy more intelligent systems across their operations. With predictions of over a billion AI agents entering the workforce in the coming years, traditional governance approaches simply cannot keep pace. How do you ensure your AI systems are using data responsibly without slowing down innovation? What happens when an AI agent makes decisions that were never explicitly programmed? And how do you build governance processes that scale alongside rapidly expanding AI adoption while maintaining trust with customers and regulators?

Blake Brannon is Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrust, where he leads product vision and strategic direction for the company’s AI-ready governance platform. He has been with OneTrust since 2017, previously serving as Chief Technology Officer, and has played a key role in scaling the platform to support privacy, data governance, risk, and responsible AI initiatives for large enterprises. Blake is based in Atlanta and holds an academic background from the Georgia Institute of Technology, with early research experience in network systems and wireless communications.

In the episode, Richie and Blake explore AI governance disasters, the importance of consent and data use, the rise of AI agents, the challenges of scaling governance processes, the need for continuous observability, the role of governance committees, strategies for effective AI governance in organizations, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

OneTrust 1. Connect with 
BlakeAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: From City Sewers to Sovereign AI with Russ Wilcox, CEO at ArtifexAIExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCamp

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#338 The New Paradigm for Enterprise AI Governance with Blake Brannon, Chief Innovation Officer at OneTrust

2025 was the year AI stopped being a curiosity and started reshaping real work. From data analysts speeding up entire workflows in minutes, to managers learning how to lead hybrid teams of humans and agents, the pace of change has been relentless. Across DataFramed this year, one theme kept surfacing: AI isn’t replacing data professionals—it’s raising the bar on what good looks like. Skills are shifting, careers are becoming more fluid, and organizations are being forced to rethink how they build teams, make decisions, and govern technology that now reasons, plans, and acts on our behalf. This Best of 2025 episode pulls together the most important ideas, voices, and debates from a year that fundamentally changed how data and AI show up in practice.

In this special year-end roundup, Richie revisits the standout moments from DataFramed in 2025, spanning careers, business intelligence, data literacy, AI agents, industry use cases, and responsible AI foundations. You’ll hear why the data analyst role is evolving rather than disappearing, how hybrid human–AI teams are becoming the norm, and why communication remains the most underrated skill in data careers, the state of BI and data storytelling, the shift from training to behavior change in data and AI literacy, the rapid rise of agentic systems powered by reasoning at inference time. We also dive into real-world applications across healthcare, finance, and enterprise operations, alongside hard truths about data quality, governance, and model lineage. Finally, we spotlight advances in data science, NLP, and synthetic data—rounding out a year defined by faster cycles, higher expectations, and a renewed focus on getting the fundamentals right as AI scales.

Episodes Featured in this Recap:

 • #326 
Is the Data Analyst Role Dying Out? • with Mo Chen, Data & Analytics Manager at NatWest Group
 • #319 
Building & Managing Human+Agent Hybrid Teams • with Karen Ng, Head of Product at HubSpot
 • #295 
How To Get Hired As A Data Or AI Engineer • with Deepak Goyal, CEO & Founder at Azurelib Academy
 • #294 
Six Skills Data Professionals Need To Succeed • with Abhijit Bhaduri, Brand Evangelist & Former General Manager of Global L&D at Microsoft
 • #333 
Creating an AI-First Data Team • with Bilal Zia, Head of Data Science & Analytics at DuoLingo
 • #310 
The State of BI in 2025 • with Howard Dresner, Godfather of BI
 • #306 
The Next Generation of Business Intelligence • with Colin Zima, CEO at Omni
 • #298 
Data Storytelling Skills to Increase Your Impact • with Kat Greenbrook, Author of The Data Storyteller's Handbook
 • #323 
The Evolution of Data Literacy & AI Literacy • with Jordan Morrow, Godfather of Data Literacy
 • #305

#337 DataFramed, Distilled. The Best Moments of 2025 with Richie Cotton

The concept of sovereign AI is becoming increasingly critical in our interconnected world. Nations and organizations are grappling with who controls the data, infrastructure, and technology that power artificial intelligence systems. But what does this mean for your work in data science and AI implementation? How do you navigate the complex landscape of data ownership when building AI solutions? As geopolitical tensions influence technology development, understanding the nuances of AI sovereignty isn't just for governments—it's essential for anyone working with data and AI systems to ensure resilience and compliance in an uncertain future.

Russ Wilcox is the CEO of ArtifexAI, advising organizations on technology strategy, AI governance, and policy analysis. With 16 years in machine learning and AI, he focuses on translating complex policy and emerging tech trends into actionable strategy. His work spans government, infrastructure, and enterprise, with a focus on connecting technical capabilities to real-world implementation. A two-time World Economic Forum speaker and TEDx presenter, Wilcox has advised government agencies and Fortune 500 companies on AI strategy, urban intelligence, and technology policy. He also serves on AI ethics boards, lectures at UCLA and Boston University, and develops NLP systems for public- and private-sector use. Russ provides strategic consulting and speaking on AI governance, technology competition, and sustainable infrastructure.

In the episode, Richie and Russ explore the US-China AI race, the philosophical differences in AI approaches, the concept of sovereign AI, the role of data sovereignty, and the potential for AI to transform infrastructure and governance, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

ArtifexAIRuss’ Website • Connect with 
RussAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Harnessing AI to Help Humanity with Sandy Pentland, HAI Fellow at StanfordRewatch RADAR AI • 

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#336 From City Sewers to Sovereign AI with Russ Wilcox, CEO at ArtifexAI

The internet has transformed how we access information, but it's also created unprecedented challenges around trust and reliability. How do we build digital spaces where collaboration thrives and quality information prevails? What separates toxic online environments from productive ones? The principles of neutrality, transparency, and assuming good faith have proven essential in creating sustainable knowledge communities. But these same principles extend far beyond the digital realm—they're fundamental to effective leadership, successful business relationships, and even political discourse. When trust breaks down, everything becomes more difficult. So what practical steps can we take to foster trust in our organizations and communities?

Jimmy Wales is an American-British internet entrepreneur best known as the founder of Wikipedia and co-founder of Fandom. Trained in finance at Auburn University and the University of Alabama, he began his career in quantitative finance before moving into early web ventures, including Bomis and the free encyclopedia project Nupedia. In 2001, he launched Wikipedia, which quickly became one of the most visited websites in the world. To support its growth, he established the Wikimedia Foundation in 2003, where he continues to serve on the Board of Trustees and act as a public spokesperson. He later co-founded Fandom in 2004, expanding the wiki model to entertainment, gaming, and niche communities. Wales has also pursued experiments in collaborative journalism, including WikiTribune and its successor WT Social. His work in open knowledge has earned recognition from organizations such as the World Economic Forum, Time magazine, UNESCO, and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. He has held fellowships and board roles at institutions including Harvard’s Berkman Center and Creative Commons.

In the episode, Richie and Jimmy explore the early challenges of Wikipedia, the importance of trust and neutrality, the role of AI in content creation, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

WikipediaJimmy’s New Book: The Seven Rules of TrustTrust Café • Connect with 
JimmyBlog: The Trust Triangle of LeadershipAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: How to Build AI Your Users Can Trust with David Colwell, VP of AI & ML at TricentisExplore AI-Native Learning on DataCamp

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#335 Rebuilding Trust in the Digital Age with Jimmy Wales, Founder at Wikipedia

The AI landscape is evolving at breakneck speed, with new capabilities emerging quarterly that redefine what's possible. For professionals across industries, this creates a constant need to reassess workflows and skills. How do you stay relevant when the technology keeps leapfrogging itself? What happens to traditional roles when AI can increasingly handle complex tasks that once required specialized expertise? With product-market fit becoming a moving target and new positions like forward-deployed engineers emerging, understanding how to navigate this shifting terrain is crucial. The winners won't just be those who adopt AI—but those who can continuously adapt as it evolves.

Tomasz Tunguz is a General Partner at Theory Ventures, a $235m early-stage venture capital firm. He blogs at tomtunguz.com & co-authored Winning with Data. He has worked or works with Looker, Kustomer, Monte Carlo, Dremio, Omni, Hex, Spot, Arbitrum, Sui & many others. He was previously the product manager for Google's social media monetization team, including the Google-MySpace partnership, and managed the launches of AdSense into six new markets in Europe and Asia. Before Google, Tunguz developed systems for the Department of Homeland Security at Appian Corporation.

In the episode, Richie and Tom explore the rapid investment in AI, the evolution of AI models like Gemini 3, the role of AI agents in productivity, the shifting job market, the impact of AI on customer success and product management, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

Theory Ventures • Connect with 
TomTom’s BlogGavin Baker on MediumAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: Data & AI Trends in 2024, with Tom Tunguz, General Partner at Theory VenturesRewatch RADAR AI • 

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#334 The State of Data & AI with Tom Tunguz, VC at Theory Ventures

Data science leadership is about more than just technical expertise—it’s about building trust, embracing AI, and delivering real business impact. As organizations evolve toward AI-first strategies, data teams have an unprecedented opportunity to lead that transformation. But how do you turn a traditional analytics function into an AI-driven powerhouse that drives decision-making across the business? What’s the right structure to balance deep technical specialization with seamless business integration? From building credibility through high-impact forecasting to creating psychological safety around AI adoption, effective data leadership today requires both technical rigor and visionary communication. The landscape is shifting fast, but with the right approach, data science can stand as a true pillar of innovation alongside engineering, product, and design.

Bilal Zia is currently the Head of Data Science & Analytics at Duolingo, an EdTech company whose mission is to develop the best education in the world and make it universally available. Previously, he spent two years helping to build and lead an interdisciplinary Central Science team at Amazon, comprising economists, data and applied scientists, survey specialists, user researchers, and engineers. Before that, he spent fifteen years in the Research Department of the World Bank in Washington, D.C., pursuing an applied academic career. He holds a Ph.D. in Economics from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and his interests span economics, data science, machine learning/AI, psychology, and user research.

In the episode, Richie and Bilal explore rebuilding an underperforming data team, fostering trust with leadership, embedding data scientists within product teams, leveraging AI for productivity, the future of synthetic A/B testing, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

DuolingoDuolingo Blog: How machine learning supercharged our revenue by millions of dollars • Connect with 
BilalAI-Native Course: Intro to AI for WorkRelated Episode: The Future of Data & AI Education Just Arrived with Jonathan Cornelissen & Yusuf SaberRewatch RADAR AI • 

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#333 Creating an AI-First Data Team with Bilal Zia, Head of Data Science & Analytics at DuoLingo

The relationship between data governance and AI quality is more critical than ever. As organizations rush to implement AI solutions, many are discovering that without proper data hygiene and testing protocols, they're building on shaky foundations. How do you ensure your AI systems are making decisions based on accurate, appropriate information? What benchmarking strategies can help you measure real improvement rather than just increased output? With AI now touching everything from code generation to legal documents, the consequences of poor quality control extend far beyond simple errors—they can damage reputation, violate regulations, or even put licenses at risk.

David Colwell is the Vice President of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning at Tricentis, a global leader in continuous testing and quality engineering. He founded the company’s AI division in 2018 with a mission to make quality assurance more effective and engaging through applied AI innovation. With over 15 years of experience in AI, software testing, and automation, David has played a key role in shaping Tricentis’ intelligent testing strategy. His team developed Vision AI, a patented computer vision–based automation capability within Tosca, and continues to pioneer work in large language model agents and AI-driven quality engineering. Before joining Tricentis, David led testing and innovation initiatives at DX Solutions and OnePath, building automation frameworks and leading teams to deliver scalable, AI-enabled testing solutions. Based in Sydney, he remains focused on advancing practical, trustworthy applications of AI in enterprise software development.

In the episode, Richie and David explore AI disasters in legal settings, the balance between AI productivity and quality, the evolving role of data scientists, and the importance of benchmarks and data governance in AI development, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

Tricentis 2025 Quality Transformation Report • Connect with 
DavidCourse: Artificial Intelligence (AI) LeadershipRelated Episode: Building & Managing Human+Agent Hybrid Teams with Karen Ng, Head of Product at HubSpotRewatch RADAR AI • 

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#332 How to Build AI Your Users Can Trust with David Colwell, VP of AI & ML at Tricentis

The future of education is being reshaped by AI-powered personalization. Traditional online learning platforms offer static content that doesn't adapt to individual needs, but new technologies are creating truly interactive experiences that respond to each learner's context, pace, and goals. How can personalized AI tutoring bridge the gap between mass education and the gold standard of one-on-one human tutoring? What if every professional could have a private tutor that understands their industry, role, and specific challenges? As organizations invest in upskilling their workforce, the question becomes: how can we leverage AI to make learning more engaging, effective, and accessible for everyone?

As the Co-Founder & CEO of DataCamp, Jonathan Cornelissen has helped grow DataCamp to upskill over 10M+ learners and 2800+ teams and enterprise clients. He is interested in everything related to data science, education, and entrepreneurship. He holds a Ph.D. in financial econometrics and was the original author of an R package for quantitative finance.

Yusuf Saber is a technology leader and entrepreneur with extensive experience building and scaling data-driven organizations across the Middle East. He is the Founder of Optima and a Venture Partner at COTU Ventures, with previous leadership roles at talabat, including VP of Data and Senior Director of Data Science and Engineering. Earlier in his career, he co-founded BulkWhiz and Trustious, and led data science initiatives at Careem. Yusuf holds research experience from ETH Zurich and began his career as an engineering intern at Mentor Graphics.

In the episode, Richie, Jo and Yusuf explore the innovative AI-driven learning platform Optima, its unique approach to personalized education, the potential for AI to enhance learning experiences, the future of AI in education, the challenges and opportunities in creating dynamic, context-aware learning environments, and much more.

Links Mentioned in the Show:

 • Read more about 
the announcementTry the AI-Native Courses:Intro to SQLIntro to AI for Work

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#331 The Future of Data & AI Education Just Arrived with Jonathan Cornelissen & Yusuf Saber

Most companies experience the same pain point when working with data: it takes too long to get the right data to the right people. This creates a huge opportunity for data scientists to find innovative solutions to accelerate that process.

One very effective method is to implement real-time data solutions that can increase business revenue and make it easier for anyone relying on the data to access the data they need, understand it, and make accurate decisions with it.

George Trujillo joins the show to share how he believes real-time data has the potential to completely transform the way companies work with data. George is the Principal Data Strategist at DataStax, a tech company that helps businesses scale by mobilizing real-time data on a single, unified stack. With a career spanning 30 years and companies like Charles Schwab, Fidelity Investments, and Overstock.com, George is an expert in data-driven executive decision-making and tying data initiatives to tangible business value outcomes.

In this episode, we talk about the real-world use cases of real-time analytics, why reducing data complexity is key to improving the customer experience, the common problems that slow data-driven decision-making, and how data practitioners can start implementing real-time data through small high-value analytical assets.

#101 How Real-Time Data Accelerates Business Outcomes

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