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Join Joseph Scott Morgan every week as he explores a world that not many have had a chance to visit, the realm of death. Jo Scott will lead listeners on a journey through the blood soaked death scenes of America and then into the autopsy room to fully understand the science behind each case. Jo Scott is one America’s leading experts on applied forensics and is regularly featured on ‘Crime Stories with Nancy Grace’, ‘The Piketon Massacre’, Court TV and more.

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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan

Martha Nolan O'Slattarra is a business woman on the rise in the fashion world who turns up dead on a yacht in one of the richest places in the USA, Montauk in the Hamptons, New York. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case and what is known as of this taping but with an update coming when final toxicology results are available. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
00:00.00 Introduction 
 
01:17.03 The song is Ripple by the Dead
 
04:03.73 Woman found dead on yacht
 
09:08.94 Finder on dock nude
 
14:49.84 Without obvious injury, what do you look at first?
 
20:43.73 Finder invested in Martha Nolan
 
25:34.83 The only source for info is naked guy
 
30:00.31 People don't snort drugs from a seat
 
35:11.76 Chris Durnan bit firefighter
 
40:24.01 Multiple agencies working the case
 
42:01.53 Conclusion
 
 
 
 

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SHOCKING! DEATH OF GLAMOROUS BIKINI DESIGNER! WHO/WHAT KILLED MARTHA NOLAN?

Forensic Odontology is much more than just "bite mark" evidence. It is an incredible science that helps identify people and provide answers to families. That said, most people hear Forensic Odontology think "Bite Mark". "Bite Mark" evidence has been used in many criminal cases over several decades, until science started showing it might not be as conclusive as once thought. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about Ted Bundy leaving a bite mark on Lisa Levy's buttocks that later served to help convict and sentence him to death as well as other crimes solved and people sentenced to death using "bite mark" evidence that turned out to be something other than a bite mark. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
00:03.55 Introduction 
 
00:50.52 Forensic Odontologist
 
04:31.54 Wear pattern of teeth 
 
09:01.90 Did Kohberger study forensic odontology
 
14:02.90 Teeth biting sadists
 
20:09.39 Identifying people in a plane crash 1982
 
24:52.28 using saw to pop the roof of the mouth and remove teeth
 
30:11.52 Biting an apple
 
34:23.79 Girl stolen from home while mom folds clothes
 
39:13.61 Bite marks as a science
 
44:24.65 Bite mark out of a hickey
 
46:17.22 Conclusion
 
 

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Forensic Odontology: Bite Mark Sent Bundy To Electric Chair, Now Setting Others Free

Joseph Scott Morgan gives a master class on Crime Scene Body Examination and Assessment. Professor Morgan offers insight from being on the scene and what is truly important and what needs to be done to insure justice prevails for the person who can no longer speak for themselves. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack also discuss the shocking truth of what happened at the scene of two of the most high profile crimes of the last 50 years; Trayvon Martin and Jodi Arias victim, Travis Alexander. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Transcribe Highlights
00:00.84 Introduction - Crime Scene
 
03:10.57 There is only one first time 
 
05:39.41 Every site, every time
 
09:57.20 Different levels of comfort
 
15:07.57 First thing, make sure person is dead
 
19:37.93 Cold from a dead body
 
25:08.37 Suicide victim wasn't dead
 
30:31.89 Homicide detectives moving up 
 
35:23.28 Everyone is watching 
 
40:06.88 Want to transport body as if it were still at the scene
 
45:15.73 Trayvon Martin Autopsy report
 
50:07.39 Body needs to be examined at scene
 
52:15.60 Conclusion
 
 

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Crime Scene Body Examination: Trayvon Martin M.E. Got an "F"- FIRED!

Human remains were found scattered on a Georgia Hunting club property in November 2022. The remains were found in a three-mile area covering two counties, and investigators reached out to the public for help.
 
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the case that was investigated by multiple agencies, including the GBI and the FBI. They explain how the agencies came to identify the scattered remains as those of Mindi Mebane Kassotis, the wife of Nicholas Kassotis a former member of the Navy's Judge Advocate General Corps (JAG).
 
 Kassotis is on trial right now for several charges, including murder and removal of body parts from the scene of death or dismemberment.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
 
00:00.00 Introduction
 
03:33.49 No sympathy for those who should know better
 
04:59.21 Body Parts found in hunting club
 
09:30.53 Jeffrey MacDonald Article 32 Hearing 
 
15:11.73 Sketch Image of victim was amazing
 
20:10.93 DNA is great if you have a sample in the system
 
24:58.72 Genetic genealogy 
 
30:52.17 Tissue on skeleton
 
35:27.14 Dismemberment
 
39:22.78 May never know how she was killed 
 
41:12.21 Conclusion 

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Missing Wife Body Parts Found In Woods, Ex Navy Jag Husband Accused

Clinton and Cristen Brink have recently moved to Arkansas with their daughters and decide to go for a hike in Devils Den State Park.
 
Without warning, the family is ambushed on a hiking trail by a man with a knife. 43-year-old Clinton fights with the man as 41-year-old Cristen runs with their daughters, 9-year-old Arianna and 7-year-old Christina, until they are a safe distance away from where the attack is taking place.
 
Cristen tells the girls to run towards where they parked their car and get help. Cristen then returns to help her husband. The girls do as they are told, and some hikers in the park find them and take them to the entrance to the park to tell a ranger what happened.
 
Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss this shocking case and break down the forensic evidence that is used to identify the suspect, Andrew McGann, and what evidence directly ties him to the crime.
 
Transcript Highlights
 
00:01.22 Introduction 
 
00:33.99 Haircuts with Pa-Paw
 
05:05.82 Multiple agency's involved
 
06:09.21 Two girls trying to find help
 
10:36.34 Mom gets girls to safety
 
14:54.34 Suspect gets out of park 
 
18:58.82 Understanding the crime scene
 
24:00.80 Knife is painful way to die
 
29:12.39 Tracking suspect
 
34:14.21 Blood didn't match victims
 
39:26.36 Injuries on hand of suspect
 
44:27.28 Suspect Andrew McGann 

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Devil Murders Dad and Mom in Front of Daughters, 9 and 7, in Devils Den!

Erin Patterson went hunting for special mushrooms, Death Cap Mushrooms. She needed them for a very special meal she was preparing for her soon to be ex-in-laws. Her husband Simon was invited to be at the dinner with his parents and extended family but Simon decided not to be present. He had gotten sick too many times before when he wasn't able to watch his wife, Erin, prepare the food they ate. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack are covering this story, again, because there is finally a conclusion to the case. Was Erin Patterson wrongly accused of trying to kill her husband and his family with Beef Wellington and mushrooms, or was she using this very special dish as a weapon for murder? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights 
 
00:04.45 Introduction - Favorite meals 
 
02:11.60 Beef Wellington used for murder
 
07:17.61 Toxic Mushroom - Death Cap Mushroom
 
11:10.88 What was to goal?
 
15:39.31 Patterson picked deadly mushrooms on purpose
 
20:03.78 Family members die, one needs liver transplant
 
25:35.37 Husband, Simon, nearly died multiple times
 
30:05.28 Symptoms are the same, food is different
 
35:17.86 Doctor friend tells victim to keep food journal
 
40:19.74 Could not solve the problem
 
45:11.15 Children will be scarred
conclusion 
 
 

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Beef Wellington With Mushrooms: Murderer's Favorite Weapon

The FBI's investigation into James Knott's Kentucky home reveals a shocking discovery: 40 human skulls, femurs, hip bones, and spinal cords used as decorations. In response to this disturbing find, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve deep into the complex and unsettling world of how human remains are treated, examining the blurred boundaries between respect and violation. Through personal stories, including that of a mortician's questionable actions and a chilling account of James Knott's home adorned with human skulls, the duo grapples with society's morbid fascinations. Additionally, they explore historical figures like William Burke and contemporary controversies surrounding Harvard Medical School. The episode culminates in a somber reflection on the trade of human trophies in our digital age, and discussion of ethical dilemmas surrounding these issues, prompting us to question our society's values and the importance of respecting the dignity of the deceased.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Time-codes:
 
[00:00:20] - Joseph Scott Morgan gives an overview of his experience as a death investigator, introducing the episode's story about a man who worked for a prestigious institution and drove a car with vanity plate hinting at death
 
[00:04:00] - Joe Scott narrates a shocking tale of a mortician's twisted expression of love, and argues that the dead are the most defenseless and that those in the mortuary industry should honor the dead.
 
[00:06:20] - Dave Mack introduces the story of James Knott, a man in Kentucky whose home was raided by the FBI, leading to the discovery of 40 human skulls and other bones used as decorations.
 
[00:07:44] - Insight into the intricate and complex process of dissecting human brains and spinal cords is shared.
 
[00:10:13] - Joe's passion for history and architecture leads to a discussion on ossuaries in Portugal and Milan, Italy.
 
[00:13:00] - Joe recounts the chilling response of James Knott to FBI agents during a warrant execution and raises questions about Knott's motives and activities, speculating on the possibility of him being a necrophile, grave robber, serial killer, or trafficker in human remains.
 
[00:15:20] - A Harvard medical school bag's discovery thickens the plot around Knott.
 
[00:16:37] - Dave probes the enigma of preparing human remains for display, including cleaning and sourcing the remains. 
 
[00:19:40] - How can one acquire so many skulls? Joe presents his theories and also discusses methods of cleaning bones, including using bleach or a heating process.
 
 [00:23:20] - Joseph Scott Morgan delves into the history of William Burke and William Hare, two serial killers known for selling bodies for medical dissections, and explains the prohibition against human dissections in medical schools during that period, leading to a market for human remains.
 
[00:25:37] - The debate steers towards the legality and ethics of anatomical gifts, and the trust issues surrounding anatomical donations. Harvard Medical School's involvement in this case raises questions.
 
00:27:12] Morgan explains how certain individuals, including Cecil Lodge, former head of the Harvard Medical School Anatomical Gift Program, allegedly brokered human remains.
 
[00:28:06] - A step-by-step journey through the body dissection process in medical schools.
 
[00:29:38] - The morbid market of body parts as "souvenirs" is put under the spotlight. Dave highlights the modern-day horror of trading human trophies on social media.
 
[00:32:00] - Joe Scott contemplates the future repercussions of the episode's revelations on industry regulations.

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Unraveling the Mystery of 40 Skulls: A Grim Revelation "Best of Body Bags"

A baby is dropped off at the end of a Tennessee driveway. As witnesses call 911 to report the baby, another call is coming in from a county over about a possible quadruple homicide. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the murders of Adrianna Williams, 20, James Wilson, 21, Cortney Rose,, 38, and Braydon Williams, 15, and the man who was arrested for the crime after days on the lam, Austin Drummond. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
 
00:00.11 Introduction 
 
04:02.95 Infant dropped off at the end of driveway
 
08:15.20 Four dead, two are women
 
12:05.22 Posting photos on social media
 
16:14.68 Identification was fast
 
21:01.80 Possible concealment 
 
24:20.42 Austin Drummond dated the grandmother
 
28:45.41 Austin Drummond prison cell 
 
32:04.72 Austin Drummond captured
 
34:02.53 Conclusion 

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FAMILY MASSACRE! Family Friend Accused of Quadruple Murder. Austin Drummond CAPTURED!

Arsonists do it for may different reasons; Revenge, Money, Cover-up a Crime, Pyrophilia. Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss arson and how the crime is investigated, the evidence left behind, and why burning up the scene of a crime to get rid of evidence often creates the evidence needed to catch the perp. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcript Highlights
00:00:00.00 Introduction - Fire
 
00:05:08.55 Getting hurt at fire scenes
 
00:09:59.88 Four sources
 
00:15:06.98 Watching fire
 
00:20:04.78 Arsonists use fire to make money, cover up a crime, render down a body
 
00:25:09.86 Somebody laying on their back, clothing on back many time is intact
 
00:30:17.15 Using fire for revenge
 
00:35:16.22 Memory of first time faced with a burned body in morgue
 
00:39:58.89 Linear surgical incisions to prevent body from splitting open
 
00:45:05.58 Most people die from smoke inhalation
 
00:50:17.55 Being short of breath, sad way to die
 
00:55:02.50 Treating the body with respect
 
00:59:47.19 Personal story, conclusion 
 
 

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ARSON: Revenge. Money. Cover-up Crime. Pyrophilia.

Bryan Kohberger snuck in to kill young ladies while they slept. Maddie and Kaylee woke up and fought for their lives. Ethan Chapin was killed as he slept. But one, Xana Kernodle, was wide awake when the devil showed up. 
 
After reading through documents released by the Moscow Police, Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack put together a timeline and a map of activity inside the house at 1122 King Road and what really took place. They also discuss the injuries and the effect those injuries had on the victims as well as breaking down the police reports with never before heard comments from survivors and the horror that was seen by police when they first arrived on scene.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Transcribe Highlights
 
00:00.00 Introduction 
 
04:25.35 Xana came from tough upbinging
 
08:55.66 All four students did well in school 
 
14:25.39 Coming face to face with Satan
 
19:57.23 BK surprised by Xana
 
25:02.33 Ghastly injury from Xana grabbing knife
 
30:18.04 Xana was fully awake and engaged during attack 
 
34:59.06 Ethan found in the bed, significant trauma
 
40:00.96 Similar injury caused by Courtney Clenney
 
45:10.40 No justice for what BK did
 
47:06.63 Conclusion

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SHOCKING TRUTH! XANA Caught BK And Fought The Devil!

Cleo Loizides is 81-years-old and living in a senior care facility in Virginia. After a visit from her daughter, 53 and grandson, 24, an orderly finds her stiff and cold to the touch. In this episode of Body Bags, Joseph Scott Morgan will explain what happens when someone in a senior care facility passes away and how to tell the difference between a natural death and a murder. Dave Mack will look at the history of the family that begins with Cleo Loizides as a Model in the 1960s and ends with her death in 2024. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Transcribe Highlights
 
00:00:02.39 Introduction - circle of life
00:01:07.72 Discussion of murder of 81-year-old woman
00:04:46.47 Discussion of Cleo Loizides found dead on floor
00:09:59.22 Talk about people in care facility
00:14:43.59 Discussion of nursing home deaths being investigated
00:19:44.18 Discussion of Elder abuse
00:22:30.18 Discussion of health, getting her own food, not needing help
00:26:10.21 Talk about knowing a body is dead
00:31:19.24 Discussion of daughter and grandson visiting
00:35:07.92 Discussion of cause of death
00:39:02.45 Discussion of daughter and grandson confess to murder
00:41:16.31 Conclusion Cleo deserved a better end

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