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On Monday, June 5th, 2023, a story was published by The Debrief presenting claims from the first whistleblower to step forward publicly since the passing of UAP whistleblower legislation with the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act a few months ago. This whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, is a high-level member of the intelligence community, and he is claiming to have knowledge of special access programs that have recovered non-human technological craft.
Later that same day, an excerpt from an interview with the whistleblower conducted by investigative journalist, Ross Coulthart, was aired on NewsNation in which Rusch made even more shocking claims—including the allegation that the US has also recovered the bodies of the non-human pilots of these craft.
In this episode we do a deep dive into this story, doing our best to frame it within the great context of the disclosure movement, and ask the question: what does all this mean? And can what David Grusch is saying really be true?
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MUSIC Theme: Cabinet of Curiosities by Shaun Frearson
TIMESTAMPS 00:30 Introduction 03:14 What Makes This Story So Significant? 07:10 Why Wasn’t The UFO Whistleblower Story In The New York Times? 10:02 What Led Up To This? 10:17 -Luis Elizondo & the 2017 New York Times Article 12:31 -The UAP Task Force 14:02 -AARO 16:50 -2023 NDAA 17:10 What Is David Charles Grusch? 20:10 Who Did Grusch Talk To? 20:42 What Did Grusch Tell Congress? 23:35 Wait—So David Grusch Never Saw The Craft Or Bodies? 27:19 How Do We Know David Grusch Is Who He Says He Is? 27:57 -Karl E. Nell 28:27 -Christopher Mellon 29:13 -Jonathan Grey 30:43 -Jim Shell 31:32 Retaliation and Disclosure of Urgent Concerns 34:02 David Grusch’s Interview with Ross Coulthart 37:08 Thoughts on the Interview 40:23 The Implications of Grusch’s Allegations 47:57 Pentagon Response 48:14 What Can We Do?
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Lydbog: 9. juni 2023
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