Melissa Clark is one of America’s greatest recipe scribes. Over the last two decades, she's worked on nearly 40 cookbooks and contributed countless recipes to the New York Times food section, where she's a columnist. One of her NYT contributions, a recipe based on a Manhattan restaurant’s guacamole with peas, ignited a firestorm, with both Barack Obama and Jeb Bush weighing in on the controversial dish. During her chat with Helen and Greg, Melissa gives the full story behind Pea GuacamoleGate, and she explains the inspiration behind her new cookbook, Dinner: Changing the Game. Get the full transcript for this episode (and all Eater Upsell episodes) at eater.com/upsell Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices