Ep 17: An Interview with Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka

In this episode, I’m bringing you an interview with one of my personal heroes, Dr. Diana Walsh Paslka. Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of religious studies and Chair of the Department of Philosophy and Religion at the University of North Carolina, Wilmington. She holds a bachelor’s from UC Davis, a master’s from Berkeley, and a Ph.D. from Syracuse University. She is the author of Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory in Catholic Devotional and Popular Culture and American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, Technology, which we will be discussing in this interview.

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LISTEN TO THESE EPISODES FIRST If you aren’t already familiar with Diana’s work, you’ll definitely want to start with these two episodes before listening to this interview to get the full context of our conversation. Ep 11: Nazis & UFOs [Pt. 1]: The Emergence Of UFO Lore Ep 16: The Sky Calls To Us: The Occult Origins Of The Space Race

GET DR. DIANA WALSH PASULKA’S BOOKS American Cosmic: UFO’s, Religion Technology Heaven Can Wait: Purgatory In Catholic Devotional And Popular Culture

MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE The Question Concerning Technology by Martin Heidegger What Is Called Thinking? by Martin Heidegger Discourse On Thinking by Martin Heidegger I, Product by Jacques Vallee Society of the Spectacle by Guy Dubord Republic by Plato Dr. James Madden Marie Mutsuki Mockett 2001: A Space Odyssey Nope

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TIMESTAMPS 00:00:30 Intro 00:05:03 How does a scholar of religion end up writing a book about UFOs? [Backstory of American Cosmic] 00:10:57 Why the next big breakthrough in the space program will come from the field of religious studies. 00:14:33 What can we learn from studying Tyler’s protocols? 00:18:14 What should we make of the simplicity of Tyler’s protocols? 00:22:43 What is Tyler communicating with? 00:26:07 What’s going on in the space program? 00:30:25 Civil religion & UFOs 00:34:11 Having a front row seat to the birth of a myth/belief/religion 00:38:15 Diana’s transition from UFO atheist to UFO agnostic 00:43:39 “The Question Concerning Technology” by Martin Heidegger 00:57:36 What does the Monolith in Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey tell us about the relationship between media and technology? 01:04:39 Jordan Peele’s Nope and the relationship between media and belief 01:08:32 Society of the Spectacle 01:13:17 Plato’s Cave 01:24:21 Plato’s Republic & the impossibility of justice 01:26:45 Ontological shock & re-entering the cave 01:29:34 The danger of Technology 01:34:48 What to expect from Diana’s new book

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Lydbog: 26. januar 2023