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This week David and Helen talk with the historian David Kynaston about his diary of the 2016-17 season in football and in politics, when a lot happened both to the world and to his beloved Aldershot FC. It's a conversation about loyalty, identity and belonging, and about what sorts of change we can tolerate and what we can't. Plus Helen reflects on her life as a West Ham fan.
Talking Points:
For David Kynaston, football is about identity.
• We all have our personal myths. • Continuity of space, even colours, is also important.
Football in Britain has derived a lot of meaning from the relationship between club and place.
• The continuity between location and fan base broke at some point in the 1990s, maybe earlier. • And then there are questions of ownership, management.
For David Kynaston, football is rooted in place; politics is not.
• Small and medium sized towns feel ‘left behind’; these places have also been left behind in the football sense. • But anger about the inequalities or the premier league doesn’t have a lot of political purchase.
What is the relationship between the planning period of the 50s and 60s and Brexit voters?
• People who lived through that maybe had reasons to distrust people telling them what was best. • There was also a coarsening of popular culture, led by Murdoch and the Sun.
Mentioned in this Episode:
David Kynaston’s new book, Shots in the DarkAnthony Powell, A Dance to the Music of Time • Colin Shindler’s books on Manchester United • and Manchester CityOur post-Trump episode David Goodhart on somewheres and anywheresLiverpool’s vote and Sun readershipThe Financial Times editorial on Trump and Portland
Further Learning:
Helen on West HamHelen on coronavirus and the Premier League
And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: lrb.co.uk/talking
Release date
Lydbog: 6. august 2020
Fakta
This week David and Helen talk with the historian David Kynaston about his diary of the 2016-17 season in football and in politics, when a lot happened both to the world and to his beloved Aldershot FC. It's a conversation about loyalty, identity and belonging, and about what sorts of change we can tolerate and what we can't. Plus Helen reflects on her life as a West Ham fan.
Talking Points:
For David Kynaston, football is about identity.
• We all have our personal myths. • Continuity of space, even colours, is also important.
Football in Britain has derived a lot of meaning from the relationship between club and place.
• The continuity between location and fan base broke at some point in the 1990s, maybe earlier. • And then there are questions of ownership, management.
For David Kynaston, football is rooted in place; politics is not.
• Small and medium sized towns feel ‘left behind’; these places have also been left behind in the football sense. • But anger about the inequalities or the premier league doesn’t have a lot of political purchase.
What is the relationship between the planning period of the 50s and 60s and Brexit voters?
• People who lived through that maybe had reasons to distrust people telling them what was best. • There was also a coarsening of popular culture, led by Murdoch and the Sun.
Mentioned in this Episode:
David Kynaston’s new book, Shots in the DarkAnthony Powell, A Dance to the Music of Time • Colin Shindler’s books on Manchester United • and Manchester CityOur post-Trump episode David Goodhart on somewheres and anywheresLiverpool’s vote and Sun readershipThe Financial Times editorial on Trump and Portland
Further Learning:
Helen on West HamHelen on coronavirus and the Premier League
And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: lrb.co.uk/talking
Release date
Lydbog: 6. august 2020
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