We enjoyed our discussion with Charlene Li, analyst and best-selling author of The Disruption Mindset, so much last December that we invited her back to discuss the impact of the pandemic on leaders, culture, and the evolving nature of work. Charlene's advice for disruptors is more relevant than ever.

Charlene's advice to leaders who have themselves been disrupted: "Now is the time to be a better leader. Take this opportunity to get to know the whole person - where they live, their families, their hobbies. These intimate work interactions allow us to be more empathetic."

Listen and learn…

• How Charlene has made use of time spent not traveling and speaking at live events • What's the single most important skill for managers leading in periods of uncertainty • The new definition of work. Hint: it’s no longer defined by physical space.