#144 - Kingsley Dennis (p.2) Beyond Conditioning - Connecting to Something Higher - The Modern Seeker & Sage Talks

This is the second part of our (yes, yours and mine!) meeting with Kingsley L. Dennis, who holds a PhD and works as a full-time writer and researcher. He is the author of more than twenty-five books and numerous articles, making it no small task to choose what to focus on!! But today is long planned job (planned by myself Mannah)of me bringing some challenging questions to Kingsley, as I recently read his 2020 book "The Modern Seeker: A Perennial Psychology for Contemporary Times." We explore what the perennial path is, and how it can be expressed through the modern language of psychology. What are the dangers of going into the occult/spiritual domain if not emotionally stable and how can therapy work together with the perennial need to decondition? Kingsley is AS WE SPEAK ready with a new book for the public called "Sage Talks: Conversations with Gods, Deities, and Avatars" (march 31, 2026) and we of course dive into that too in the later part of this interview. But mostly we go at it with bridging tools/paths for emotional health and a spiritual growth. Modern therapy and the perennial path are not necessarily opposed - but the interesting part is how we get to this point, the process of us understanding each other in this conversation I think. DEconditioning and reprogramming is a HUGE important task. Now then what? What do we replace the old programme with? Well Soulmaking, in his language, is about nourishing the soul with what truly feeds it, rather than living on distractions, substitutes, or forms of "fast food" for the psyche. A central thread in the conversation is that real development requires openness, critically questioning, flexibility and humor! And an underlying theme is the art of communication, because as Kingsley says in the end of this episode: "We are a communicative species." In astrological terms, we speak of a Mars Mercury conjunction (powerful communicator!) and Libra rising, which points to a soul emphasis on equal relationships. I find this very pronounced in Kingsley because he is always very easy to talk to and consistently invites me into a space of co-creation. Also in this conversation he speaks of allowing others perspectives - that is a Libra skill for sure!! I hope you enjoy it and will reflect with us on these existential and important topics -Mannah link to this episode on youtube: https://youtu.be/F5Sm4hz067w Kingsleys substack: https://kingsleyldennis.substack.com/ Mannah: https://www.therapeuticastrologer.com/