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Karina Longworth

You Must Remember This is a storytelling podcast exploring the secret and/or forgotten histories of Hollywood’s first century. It’s the brainchild and passion project of Karina Longworth (founder of Cinematical.com, former film critic for LA Weekly), who writes, narrates, records and edits each episode. It is a heavily-researched work of creative nonfiction: navigating through conflicting reports, mythology, and institutionalized spin, Karina tries to sort out what really happened behind the films, stars and scandals of the 20th century.

You Must Remember This

While riding a crest of Broadway stardom – and in a serious romance with a woman – Libby is pursued by Zachary Smith Reynolds, the reckless, emotional teenage heir to the Camel tobacco fortune. Just months after their marriage, at the close of a drunken party, Reynolds is dead of a gunshot wound to the head. Was Libby responsible? Also: Tallulah Bankhead is brought to Hollywood to compete with bisexual icon Marlene Dietrich, while Libby, no stranger to blackface, wants to star in a film about Josephine Baker.

(00:00) Libby’s Heiress Girlfriend

(13:15) Libby’s Tobacco-Heir Boyfriend

(19:25) Tallulah Bankhead & the Gary Cooper Threesome

(37:16) Libby Tries to Play Josephine Baker in Movie

(43:56) A Yankee Jewess on the Plantation

(54:36) Who Shot Zachary Smith Reynolds?

A Yankee Jewess in the Deep South (The Bisexuals, Part 2)

Libby Holman, a Jewish girl from Cincinnati, arrives in Manhattan in 1925 and begins to make a name for herself as a torch singer, trading on her racially-ambiguous skin tone and deep voice at a time when white hipsters think the height of cool can be found in Harlem. Libby and friends like Tallulah Bankhead sojourned uptown not just to listen to Black music, but also to explore their bisexuality. Through mutual co-star Clifton Webb, Libby meets Jeanne Eagels – one of the greatest actresses of her generation, and a high-profile casualty of Roaring 20s debauchery.

(00:00) Torch Singer, Accused Murderess, Bisexual

(09:05) A Confederate Jew

(17:53) Sex Appeal to Burn

(25:59) “Coon Shouting” and Libby’s Racial Ambiguity

(41:32) Blackface on Broadway with “Moanin’ Low”

(49:10) Sex Tourism in Harlem

(58:28) Jeanne Eagels

Broadway Blackface & Harlem Sex Tourism (The Bisexuals, Part 1)

Listen to a trailer for The Bisexuals, the new season of You Must Remember This, coming September 15.

A sultry, racially-ambiguous singer who became a sensation on Broadway in the late 1920s and 30s, Libby Holman popularized a number of jazz and blues standards of the Great American Songbook. At the height of her fame, Holman shocked her mostly queer coterie by marrying the heir to the Camel cigarettes fortune. Within months, Libby’s husband was dead, and Libby was accused of his murder. The ensuing scandal marked the star as a “black widow,” and in the years to come, a number of friends and lovers who drifted into Libby’s web wound up dead. The most famous of these was Montgomery Clift, who like Libby was bisexual, struggled with substance abuse, and felt misunderstood within a pop culture that increasingly demonized anyone who didn’t fit neatly into the post-WWII American ideal. 

Over 8 episodes – with a cast of characters including Elizabeth Taylor, Josephine Baker, Tallulah Bankhead, Billie Holiday, Jane and Paul Bowles, Nicholas Ray and more – The Bisexuals will begin by describing Libby’s rise to stardom, and her sexually-fluid social life, in the New York theater scene of the 1920s. From there we’ll explore the murder scandal that transitioned her from fame to infamy in the 1930s. Then, we will skip to the 1940s and 50s, and a very different climate than the free-wheeling 1920s when Libby Holman thrived. The cultural pendulum had swung back the other way, and there was no possibility for a movie star like Monty Clift to be openly queer. By the time the social and sexual revolutions of the 60s began to be felt, both Libby and Monty were too deeply scarred by trauma, stigma and addiction to benefit.

Trailer: The Bisexuals

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podcast about stories of historic human error, catastrophes, and heists, and the lessons we can

learn from such mishaps. In this episode of Cautionary Tales, Tim examines what happens when the bright lights of Hollywood collide with the far less glamorous world of tax evasion.

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was his big break. But he soon discovered Marty was not exactly a dream gig. Listen to

Cautionary Tales every Friday wherever you get your podcasts.

Presenting Cautionary Tales | Lights, Camera, Tax Break

If you’ve finished all episodes of The Old Man is Still Alive, I’ve got another treat for you from Jake Brennan at Hollywoodland. Have a listen to this episode of Hollywoodland about John Waters, from his beginnings in X-rated art films to cult classics like Hairspray and Crybaby, as he created and cultivated his own peculiar niche in film while nurturing a legendary troupe of players who became a family of outcasts.

Welcome to Hollywoodland: John Waters: Subversion, Shock, and the Ultimate Outsider

In part two of our season finale, we explore the final decade of John Huston’s life and career. As he was slowly dying of emphysema and undergoing massive turmoil in his personal life, Huston continued to work almost compulsively on both passion projects (The Man Who Would Be King, Wise Blood, Under the Volcano) and paycheck gigs (Annie). His career ended, fittingly, with two collaborations with the next generation of Hustons, Prizzi’s Honor and The Dead.

(00:00) The Man Who Would Be King

(10:20) Marital Strife and Relocating to Puerto Vallarta

(16:37) Wise Blood

(20:49) Annie

(29:25) Under the Volcano

(34:49) Prizzi’s Honor

(42:42) The Dead and The Old Man is No Longer Still Alive

John Huston, Part Two: 1975-1987 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 15)

This series began with the story of a director who wrote his autobiography to secure his place in history after his career had gone down the drain. It ends with the story of a man who wrote his autobiography as a “dead man walking”...and then continued to make movies for another half a decade, until the literal last breath left his body. Hollywood’s original “nepo baby” director, John Huston was never a conventional studio system stalwart, and in some respects he was able to go with the flow of changing times a lot better than some of his contemporaries. In part one of our two-part season finale we’ll talk about his flight from Hollywood to Ireland, literally playing God, Huston’s long fallow period in the late 60s, Anjelica Huston’s misbegotten film debut, Huston’s reinvention in the New Hollywood era and the health crisis that almost ended it all.

(00:00) John Huston…In the Beginning

(09:22) Huston in Exile

(15:40) Playing God and Facing Mortality

(24:01) Casting Anjelica and Working with Orson Welles

(34:11) Fat City

(41:43) Noah Cross and Chinatown

John Huston, Part One: 1966-1974 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 14)

This episode was originally released on March 3, 2015. Listen to help prep for the next episode of our new season, The Old Man is Still Alive.

She was the raven-haired beauty whose lily-white persona was forged by her supporting roles in Gone With the Wind and several Errol Flynn swashbucklers. He was the real-life swashbuckler, the heroic lover/drinker/fighter whose directorial debut The Maltese Falcon, was an enormous success. They met when Huston directed de Havilland in his second film, In This Our Life, and began an affair which would continue, on and off, through the decade, as he joined the Army and made several controversial documentaries exposing dark aspects of the war experience, and as she waged a war of her own, taking Warner Brothers to court to challenge the indentured servitude of the star contract system. De Havilland’s lawsuit went all the way to the California Supreme Court, and had massive implications on the future of labor in Hollywood and beyond.

Flashback: John Huston and Olivia de Havilland

How does an artist once perceived to be ahead of his time fall behind the times? The choreographer/director of Golden Age classics like Singin’ the Rain and Funny Face left Hollywood for all the 60s and the first half of the 70s, perfecting a certain brand of sophisticated comedy/romance abroad with films like Charade, Bedazzled and Two for the Road. His rough Hollywood re-entry was marked by exercises in nostalgia for eras gone by (Lucky Lady, a movie about Prohibition Era gangsters starring Burt Reynolds and Liza Minnelli; the 1930s spoof Movie Movie) and attempts to give audiences of the 80s what it was assumed they wanted (the sci-fi debacle Saturn 3, the sex comedy Blame it on Rio).

(00:00) What Makes Donen Fascinating

(07:56) Charade

(15:39) Two for the Road

(26:19) Bedazzled — The Gold Standard Stoner Comedy

(30:18) Staircase, Funny Face, and The Little Prince

(35:38) Lucky Lady

(47:16) Movie Movie

(57:36) Saturn 3, “A piece of shit”

(01:02:42) Blame It On Rio

Stanley Donen 1967-1984 (The Old Man is Still Alive, Part 13)

Are men okay? Several films from 1993 answered that question with a resounding no. One of the highest grossing movies of its year, Adrian Lyne’s Indecent Proposal was misunderstood as a gimmick, and its insight into toxic masculinity and male sexual insecurity got lost in a media frenzy, much of it sparked by feminists. What had changed since Lyne’s Fatal Attraction, in Hollywood and in the culture? We’ll also talk about Proposal star Demi Moore as the controversial “diva” of the moment.

(00:00) Adrian Lyne: Backlash Poster Boy?

(10:25) Creating and Casting Indecent Proposal

(23:16) The Titular Indecent Proposal

(32:51) A 1990s Version of the 1930s

(49:16) The Rise of Demi Moore

(54:26) Adrian Lyne and Demi Moore’s Body

(01:04:53) Indecent Box Office

(01:17:18) The Elusive 90s Female Movie Star

Indecent Proposal (Erotic 90’s, Part 11)

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