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Join Senator Ted Cruz and co-host Ben Ferguson as they break down the most important news stories of the day and reveal what they mean for you. On "Verdict with Ted Cruz,” you will go behind the scenes of the political debates that define our country. "Verdict with Ted Cruz" is being brought to you by Jobs, Freedom, and Security PAC, a political action committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, and candidates across the country. In 2022, Jobs, Freedom, and Security PAC plans to donate to conservative candidates running for Congress and help the Republican Party across the nation.

Verdict with Ted Cruz

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Texas Democrats' Return
 2. 

 • Fled to avoid redistricting legislation.
 • Faced legal pressure: potential arrest, fines, and threats of office vacancy.
 • Ultimately returned, allowing the redistricting bill to proceed.
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Redistricting & Gerrymandering
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 • Cruz and Ferguson claim 
Democratic states • like California, New York, Illinois, and Massachusetts are 
far more aggressive • in gerrymandering than Republican states.
 • They cite statistics showing disproportionate representation in Congress compared to actual vote percentages.
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Historical Context
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 • Cruz recounts his experience as Texas Solicitor General during a similar 2003 redistricting standoff.
 • Legal precedent allows for 
forcible return of lawmakers • to establish quorum.
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Criticism of Democratic Leaders
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 • Governors of Democrat-led states are accused of 
hypocrisy • for criticizing Texas while benefiting from gerrymandered maps.
 • Audio clips and quotes from figures like 
Governor Pritzker (IL) • and 
Governor Hochul (NY) • are used to highlight perceived contradictions.
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Beto O’Rourke’s Remarks
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 • A clip of Beto O’Rourke is played where he advocates for aggressive Democratic redistricting, which Cruz interprets as a call for 
partisan power grabs • .
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Broader Political Commentary
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 • The hosts argue that Democrats are losing favor nationally due to 
unpopular policies • and 
power-driven tactics • .
 • They cite polling data showing low favorability for the Democratic Party.
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Texas Dems Surrender-Explaining Dem Redistricting Hypocrisy Nationwide

Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton! If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.
 
 
 
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Trump Says What People Think 
 
 
 
President Donald Trump's crime reduction initiative in Washington, D.C., which has sparked intense backlash from left-wing commentators accusing him of federal overreach and authoritarianism. Clay and Buck dissect the media's reaction and highlight the irony of critics opposing efforts to make the nation's capital safer.
 
 
 
The hosts explore rising urban crime rates, citing firsthand accounts and statistics from cities like St. Louis, Baltimore, Memphis, and Kansas City, and propose deploying National Guard troops as a potential solution. They emphasize the importance of law enforcement, incarceration of repeat offenders, and authentic political leadership in addressing violent crime.
 
 
 
TX AG Ken Paxton on Redistricting Battle 
 
 
 
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins the program to provide exclusive updates on the Texas redistricting battle, including legal actions against Democratic lawmakers who fled the state. Paxton outlines efforts to enforce quorum laws and criticizes the hypocrisy of Democrat-led states with heavily gerrymandered districts.
 
 
 
Would You Do This on a Date?
 
 
 
Clay and Buck share personal dating anecdotes, including a humorous story about a failed e-scooter date and a debate over the social faux pas of using gift certificates on first dates. The segment blends cultural commentary with relatable humor, resonating with both longtime listeners and new audiences.
 
 
 
Mamdani is Everyone's Worst Nightmare
 
 
 
Top Political Headlines include White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt confirming a major diplomatic meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Anchorage, Alaska. The hosts also dissect the latest economic news, celebrating a 2.7% inflation rate and record highs across the Nasdaq, S&P 500, and Dow Jones—crediting Trump’s tariffs and economic policies for the market surge and wage growth.
 
 
 
In cultural news, Clay and Buck discuss Disney’s apology and rehiring of Gina Carano after her 2021 dismissal, and the backlash surrounding Sydney Sweeney’s ad, which polls show was largely well-received despite media outrage. The conversation pivots to social media censorship, with praise for Elon Musk’s overhaul of Twitter (now X), which they say has curbed leftist bullying and restored free speech.
 
 
 
The hour also dives into New York City politics, spotlighting the rise of mayoral candidate Mamdani, described as a “straight-up communist.” The hosts debate George Will’s assertion that Democrats should face the consequences of their policies, with Buck pushing back, arguing that defeat doesn’t teach lessons—especially to the left. 
 
 
 
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BONUS: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 12 2025

1. Federal Control of D.C. Police
 
 • Trump invoked 
Section 740 of the D.C. Home Rule Act • to place the D.C. police under federal control.
 • He declared a 
public safety emergency • , citing high crime rates including murder, carjackings, and assaults.
 • Additional measures included: 
 • Reassigning FBI agents to nighttime patrols.
 • Deploying the National Guard.
 • Appointing a federal commissioner for the D.C. police.
 • 
 
2. Legal Justification
 
 • The podcast outlines constitutional and statutory authority for Trump’s actions: 
 Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 • of the U.S. Constitution.
 D.C. Code Section 49-49 • and the 
1973 Home Rule Act • .
 • Reference to 
Posse Comitatus Act • and DOJ opinions that D.C. is legally distinct from other cities.
 • 
 
3. Criticism of Democrats and Media
 
 • Hosts argue that Democrats and mainstream media are unfairly criticizing Trump’s actions.
 • They claim Democrats oppose law enforcement and support policies that increase crime (e.g., no cash bail).
 • The podcast accuses the media of misrepresenting Trump’s actions as dictatorial.
 
4. Military Action Against Drug Cartels
 
 • Trump reportedly authorized military force against cartels like 
MS-13 • and 
Cartel de los Soles • .
 • The move is compared to 
Plan Colombia • , a U.S. military initiative under President George W. Bush.
 • The podcast suggests this could be a turning point in combating drug-related violence and trafficking.
 
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Trump Federalizes DC Police & Dems' Heads Explode plus Admin Directs the Military to Take Out Terrorist Drug Cartels

Join Sean Hannity as he discusses Apple's historic commitment of $600 billion to the U.S. over the next four years with CEO Tim Cook. The episode covers the impact of this investment on American jobs and innovation, highlighting the shift towards bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. Guests Greg Jarrett and Brett Tolman also weigh in on the implications of this massive investment and the potential legal ramifications of the Russia collusion hoax. Tune in for a patriotic and insightful discussion on America's economic resurgence.
 
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BONUS: America First: Apple Commits $600 Billion to U.S. Manufacturing - The Sean Hannity Show

1. Criticism of Jake Tapper and the Media
 
 • The Ben and the Senator strongly criticize CNN's Jake Tapper and Axios's Alex Thompson for their book 
Original Sin: President Biden’s Decline, Its Cover-Up, and His Disastrous Choice to Run Again • .
 • They accuse Tapper and mainstream media of knowingly covering up President Biden’s cognitive decline for years.
 • The book is portrayed as hypocritical, with Tapper allegedly profiting from a situation he helped conceal.
 
2. American Bar Association (ABA) and Judicial Nominees
 
 • The Trump Justice Department’s decision to remove the ABA from its formal role in vetting judicial nominees is discussed.
 • The ABA is described as a biased, left-wing advocacy group.
 • Examples are given of highly qualified conservative judges being rated “not qualified” by the ABA.
 • The hosts celebrate the move as a win for conservative judicial transparency.
 
3. Kamala Harris’s Book and Media Appearances
 
 • Harris’s book 
107 Days • is mocked as lacking authenticity and reflection.
 • Her appearance on 
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert • is criticized for being scripted and evasive.
 • Her comments on democracy, the Supreme Court, and the Department of Education are portrayed as incoherent and ideologically driven.
 
4. Democratic Party Leadership and Direction
 
 • Kamala Harris’s inability to name a clear leader of the Democratic Party is used to argue that the party is “rudderless.”
 • The hosts claim the party is dominated by its far-left wing, including figures like AOC and Ilhan Omar.
 
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Media Reporting on a Story They Once Buried, DOJ Pulls Plug on ABA & Kamala’s Word Salad on Colbert Week In Review

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Criticism of Jake Tapper and Mainstream Media:
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 • Cruz and Ferguson accuse Tapper and CNN of knowingly covering up Biden’s mental deterioration.
 • They mock Tapper’s role in the book, likening it to an arsonist writing about fire prevention.
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Biden’s Cognitive Decline:
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 • The podcast discusses alleged incidents of Biden’s confusion, memory lapses, and diminished capacity.
 • They reference reports from cabinet members and the Department of Justice suggesting Biden was mentally unfit.
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Media and Political Hypocrisy:
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 • The hosts argue that Democrats and media figures lied to the public about Biden’s condition.
 • They cite examples of politicians like Chuck Schumer and Jake Sullivan allegedly dodging accountability.
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Autopen and Presidential Authority:
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 • Cruz raises concerns about the use of an autopen to sign official documents, questioning the legality and legitimacy of such actions.
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Obama’s Alleged Influence:
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 • The podcast speculates that Barack Obama and his former staffers were effectively running the Biden administration.
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Personal Anecdotes:
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 • Cruz shares a story about Biden swearing him into the Senate and a humorous moment involving his daughter.
 • The hosts joke about Cruz’s wife and discuss podcasting habits.
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Media’s Role in Biden’s Decline "Only Good Four Hours a Day"

Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton! If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.
 
 
 
Here’s a sample episode recapping four Thursday takeaways. Give the guys a listen and then follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.
 
 
 
Make America Safe Again
 
 
 
violent crime in American cities, with Clay spotlighting disturbing incidents in Cincinnati and Memphis. He shares the story of Holly, a mother who was brutally attacked, and critiques the justice system’s failure to keep repeat offenders off the streets. Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno invited Holly to speak out about the crime. Clay praises Judge Jeanine Pirro and President Donald Trump for taking strong stances on law and order, including Trump’s proposal to federalize the D.C. police force and demand a new U.S. census to correct errors from 2020 and prepare for 2030.
 
 
 
The show also explores the political debate over crime statistics, contrasting claims of declining crime rates with real-life safety concerns. Clay argues for empowering police, holding judges accountable, and ensuring cities like Washington D.C. and Memphis become safe again for families.
 
 
 
American Dads are Failing
 
 
 
A deep dive into the rising violent crime in Washington, D.C., spotlighting President Donald Trump's efforts to restore law and order in the capital. Drawing on historical symbolism, Clay reflects on the importance of capital cities, referencing Abraham Lincoln’s commitment to completing the Capitol dome during the Civil War and the newly announced reconciliation monument at Arlington Cemetery.
 
 
 
The episode features a striking comparison of homicide rates in global capital cities, revealing Washington, D.C.’s alarming rate of 41 per 100,000—far higher than cities like Lima, Nairobi, and Mexico City. Clay argues that a safe and vibrant capital is essential to American exceptionalism and global leadership.
 
 
 
The crisis of fatherlessness in America. Clay explores how the absence of fathers in households correlates with youth violence, poverty, and societal breakdown. He responds to listener feedback, emphasizing that while individual cases vary, the data overwhelmingly shows that intact families—especially with present fathers—lead to better outcomes. The discussion includes racial disparities, with Clay citing historical data showing stronger black family units prior to the Great Society programs and questioning the long-term impact of government dependency.
 
 
 
Talking Left and Living Right
 
 
 
The decline of fatherhood in American homes. Clay and listeners explore how absent fathers—across racial and socioeconomic lines—correlate with rising violent crime, poverty, and social instability. The discussion includes listener emails and calls, including one from Ralph in Cincinnati, who shares his personal struggle for equal custody and critiques the family court system’s bias toward mothers. Clay argues for 50/50 parenting time and criticizes the financial incentives that perpetuate divorce litigation.
 
 
 
Clay promotes YouTube bonus content book reviews, including The Fate of the Day, a volume in the American Revolution trilogy, and thrillers by Mick Herron, Sue Grafton, and Robert Parker. Clay emphasizes the importance of reading and historical literacy for conservative audiences.
 
 
 
SC Sen. Tim Scott on Faith
 
 
 
South Carolina Senator Tim Scott, author of One Nation Always Under God: Profiles in Christian Courage, and dives deep into the crisis of fatherlessness in America, the role of faith in family life, and the impact of government policy on household dynamics. Senator Scott joins the program to discuss his book and personal journey growing up in a single-parent household. He highlights the importance of faith, family, and male role models in shaping strong communities. Scott shares statistics on fatherless homes—over 70% among African-American boys and 40% among white working-class families—and calls for a cultural and spiritual revival to restore family values.
 
 
 
The hour also touches on President Trump’s call for a new census, which could shift congressional representation and electoral college influence toward red states. Clay explains how a corrected census could add seats in Florida and Texas while reducing representation in California and New York. In a lighter moment, Clay and Senator Scott discuss college football rivalries, with Scott predicting a strong season for the South Carolina Gamecocks. The conversation showcases Scott’s loyalty and enthusiasm for sports, adding a relatable and entertaining dimension to the hour. 
 
 
 
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BONUS: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 7 2025

🦟 1. CDC Travel Warning Over Chikungunya Outbreak in China
 
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Outbreak Details:
 • 

 • Over 
7,000 confirmed cases • in Guangdong Province, China, with spread to 
Hong Kong • and other regions.
 • The virus is 
mosquito-borne • , similar to dengue and Zika.
 • Symptoms include 
fever, joint pain, headaches, muscle aches, rash • , and in rare cases, 
death • , especially among infants, elderly, and those with preexisting conditions.
 • 
 • 

CDC Response:
 • 

 • Issued a 
Level 2 travel notice • .
 • Advises 
enhanced precautions • : insect repellent, long clothing, screened accommodations.
 Vaccination • is available and recommended for travelers.
 • Pregnant travelers are advised to 
reconsider travel • due to risks to newborns.
 • 
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Chinese Containment Measures:
 • 

 • Use of 
drones • , 
mosquito-eating fish • , 
fines for stagnant water • , and 
hospital isolation under mosquito netting • .
 • Comparisons are drawn to 
COVID-19 containment tactics • , raising concerns about transparency.
 • 
 
🏛️ 2. Texas Political Crisis Over Redistricting
 
 • 

Governor Greg Abbott's Lawsuit:
 • 

 • Filed with the 
Texas Supreme Court • to remove 
Democratic legislators • who fled the state to block a redistricting bill.
 • Targets 
Chairman Wu • and others for 
dereliction of duty • .
 • Abbott cites 
Texas Constitution • and 
Attorney General Ken Paxton’s opinion • to justify the action.
 • 
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Democratic Response:
 • 

 • Democrats argue their actions uphold their 
constitutional oath • , not political agendas.
 Chairman Wu • defends the move as a stand against 
racially biased redistricting • .
 • 
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Illinois Governor JB Pritzker:
 • 

 • Defends the Texas Democrats staying in Illinois.
 • Criticizes threats of arrest, likening it to protecting immigrants.
 • 
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Commentary from Mark Levin:
 • 

 • Promotes his book 
“On Power” • , linking the Texas situation to broader themes of 
Marxism • , 
media manipulation • , and 
Democratic control • .
 • Argues that Democrats misuse power and distort public debate.
 • 
 
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BONUS POD: China’s 'New' Viral Outbreak Echoes COVID-Era Measures plus Democrats Face Removal Over Quorum Walkout

🇨🇳 Chinese Student Visas and Espionage
 
 • The Trump administration announced plans to 
revoke student visas • for Chinese nationals suspected of ties to the 
Chinese Communist Party • .
 • Emphasis on 
intellectual property theft • and 
espionage • concerns.
 • Senator Cruz supports aggressive vetting of foreign students and recounts his past efforts to shut down 
Confucius Institutes • in U.S. universities.
 
🏃‍♀️ California’s Transgender Athlete Policy Shift
 
 • California revised its policy to 
protect biological female athletes • in track and field.
 • The change allows girls who were displaced by transgender athletes to still qualify for championships.
 • Cruz and Ferguson interpret this as a 
retreat by the Left • and a win for conservative values.
 
📱 Promotion of Patriot Mobile
 
 • A segment promoting 
Patriot Mobile • , a conservative Christian cell phone provider.
 • Highlights its support for 
First and Second Amendment rights • , 
veterans • , and 
pro-life causes • .
 
📜 Take It Down Act
 
 • Senator Cruz discusses the 
Take It Down Act • , recently signed into law by President Trump.
 • The law criminalizes the distribution of 
non-consensual explicit images • , including 
deepfakes • .
 • Inspired by real cases, including that of 
Elliston Barry • , a teenage girl victimized by deepfake imagery.
 • The law also mandates tech platforms to 
remove such content • upon request.
 
⚖️ American Bar Association (ABA) and Judicial Nominations
 
 • The Trump administration removed the ABA’s 
special role in vetting judicial nominees • .
 • Cruz criticizes the ABA as a 
biased, left-wing organization • .
 • Example given of a nominee unable to answer basic constitutional questions, yet rated “qualified” by the ABA.
 
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Trump Revokes Student Visas for Chinese Nationals, Transgender Athlete Policy Shift in CA, Take It Down Act Targeting Deepfakes Signed & ABA Barred from Judicial Nominations

Meet my friends, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton! If you love Verdict, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show might also be in your audio wheelhouse. Politics, news analysis, and some pop culture and comedy thrown in too.
 
 
 
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Obama Won't Be Indicted
 
 
 
Deep dive into the explosive developments surrounding the Russia collusion investigation, now reignited by a grand jury probe into Obama-era officials. This hour centers on the Department of Justice's referral and the legal implications of potential indictments stemming from what the hosts describe as a decade-long political conspiracy aimed at undermining President Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
 
 
 
Clay and Buck analyze the statute of limitations, the legal viability of conspiracy charges, and the strategic importance of grand jury venue selection—highlighting the difference between a DC-based jury, which they argue is politically biased, and a South Florida jury, which could offer a more neutral ground. They reference insights from Miranda Devine, who suggests that continued cover-ups may extend the legal window for prosecution.
 
 
 
Eye for an Eye?
 
 
 
The political ramifications of pursuing charges, even if convictions are unlikely. The hosts debate whether the Republican legal strategy should mirror the aggressive tactics used by Democrats, emphasizing the concept that “the process is the punishment.” They caution listeners to temper expectations, noting that presidential immunity likely shields Barack Obama from criminal liability, despite public frustration.
 
 
 
Listeners from across the country, including law enforcement veterans and legal experts, call in to share perspectives on perjury, RICO, and wire fraud, with many expressing skepticism about the likelihood of successful prosecutions. The show underscores the importance of a public reckoning, even if legal outcomes fall short, and stresses the need for political accountability.
 
 
 
Trump Happened
 
 
 
The Trump administration’s economic trajectory, AI-driven investment optimism, and ongoing legal and political battles, all framed within the broader context of media bias, historical accountability, and public trust in institutions. The segment opens with a strong endorsement of the Trump 2.0 economy, highlighting early signs of growth and the administration’s push for 100% expensing, which is projected to supercharge business investment. Clay and Buck explore the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data integrity, citing declining response rates and questioning the reliability of monthly job reports. This leads to a broader discussion on economic indicators, Federal Reserve policy, and the anticipated housing market thaw.
 
 
 
A major theme is the AI revolution, with comparisons to the railroad boom of the 1880s. The hosts emphasize that AI investment has already surpassed the dot-com era, positioning it as a transformative force in American industry and productivity.
 
 
 
Everything is the Holocaust
 
 
 
Texas State Rep. Jolanda Jones, who fled the state to Illinois, compares redistricting to the Holocaust, which Clay and Buck critique as historically ignorant and hyperbolic. The segment also includes commentary on fashion choices, Kamala Harris, and media narratives, blending serious political discourse with light-hearted banter.
 
 
 
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Bonus: Daily Review with Clay and Buck - Aug 5 2025

If you watched Judge Barrett's confirmation hearings this week, you might have gotten the impression that the Democrats have given up. But something much more sinister is going on. Following the conclusion of ACB's testimony, Michael Knowles asks Senator Ted Cruz about the impotent performance by Judiciary Democrats and, more importantly, about the radical Left’s shockingly successful attempt to mainstream the idea of packing the court, an idea so outrageous that even Senator Joe condemned it before he became Candidate Joe. Plus, have Facebook and Twitter poked the bear by censoring the New York Post?

 

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