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Unholy Media

Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world.
Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast".
For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy. 
Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.com

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

With Yonit feeling a little under the weather, Jonathan is joined by friend of the podcast, Haaretz military affairs analyst Amos Harel (also, author of 6:29). They discuss a new poll showing Benjamin Netanyahu gaining ground in his contest against former general Gady Eisenkot - with nearly six weeks to go till Israelis vote, is this a blip or did Eisenkot peak too early? Plus: the Israeli right declares war on a film almost no one has seen, what exactly is happening on the ground in the West Bank - and rapper Macklemore wins a chutzpah award for a past episode many seem all too keen to forget.

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Polls, Naza, Macklemore

As Israel heads into what may be the most consequential election of its history, the country is still arguing less about where it's going than about how it got here. This week, Yonit and Jonathan sit down with a titan of Israeli broadcasting — Ilana Dayan, anchor of the investigative program Uvda for three decades — who returns to Unholy to make sense of it all. She traces how Netnayahu survived a moment that should have ended his political career, makes the case for what actually sets challenger Gadi Eisenkot apart, and confronts head-on whether Israelis see the last three years as a win or a wound still open. Plus: her read on the West Bank sanctions rattling even Netanyahu's own coalition — and why, despite everything, she still finds a reason for optimism.

 

Chapters:
0:00 – Ilana Dan returns to Unholy
0:27 – Is this really Israel's most crucial election ever?
4:33 – How did Netanyahu survive October 7th?
9:33 – Why do Israelis still buy his message?
14:51 – Enter the challenger: who is Gadi Eisenkot?
18:01 – The interview that revealed Eisenkot's character
22:25 – Can a candidate who pauses beat Netanyahu's charisma?
27:41 – Israel's deepest rift — and how it got here
32:22 – The "wins" since October 7th, and the West Bank sanctions
39:13 – Was Israel's war in Gaza fought right?
52:47 – Her hopes going into the new year

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Ilana Dayan on Israel's Most Crucial Choice

September 8th was the deadline for Israeli parties to file their lists — and Netanyahu reached it less organised than he'd have liked, with a rival on the right running alone, a reserved slot for his own Channel 14 broadcaster, and barely a handful of women anywhere near the top.

Then Britain, joined by France, Canada and nine others, sanctioned settlement goods, and used the words "ethnic cleansing" about settler violence in the West Bank. The UK's chief rabbi called it a dark day for British Jews.

Yonit and Jonathan work through what sanctions actually hit when the target is a bank that gave someone a mortgage — and whether, six weeks before an election, this lands as pressure or as a gift.

 

Recorded in field conditions, from a Tel Aviv living room and a Washington hotel — so no Mensch and Chutzpah this week. Back next week.

Shana Tova!

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The Lists, the Sanctions, and six weeks to go

The Jewish new year arrives with the word ‘Zionist’ deemed an insult and a technology that never forgets anything that anyone has ever said or done. Following Unholy tradition, Yonit and Jonathan usher in the season of awe and the High Holydays with Rabbi Angela Buchdahl, who leads New York’s Central Synagogue and whose congregation was rushed by an intruder during a packed Friday night service weeks before this conversation. She walks through what repentance actually demands — a real apology, a change of action as well as heart, and three attempts — and why she thinks Abraham, the first Jew, failed the test we remember on Rosh Hashanah. Plus: the sermon she is dreading, why she calls the coming Israeli election existential for Jews everywhere, and, as ever, the music.

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Rabbi Angela Buchdahl on forgiveness, Zionism and Mamdani

Seven weeks out from an election that in many ways is a referendum on culpability for October 7th, Benjamin Netanyahu tells Channel 14 that if only they had woken him earlier that fateful day, everything would have been different — and his wife goes considerably further about Yair Golan, a man who drove towards the gunfire that morning and saved lives. Yonit and Jonathan take Mrs Netanyahu’s accusation apart, then turn to the week's most improbable story: Yoav Segalovich, a Jewish former police commander, joining Mansour Abbas's Islamist party - because the crime wave destroying Israel’s Arab communities needs someone with a proven ability to fix it. Plus a Channel 13 poll that should worry the anti-Netanyahu bloc; Britain's expected ban on trade in goods linked to the West Bank - and why Greece and Finland moved in the other direction.

Our Chutzpah award goes to a perennial winner with a new map, and the Mensch of the Week award is split three ways between brothers.

 

00:00:00 a US-Iran war nobody is calling a war
00:03:39 Netanyahu on Channel 14: if only they had woken me up
00:08:03 Yair Golan, October 7th, and a smear the hosts reject
00:14:26 Netanyahu's advisors, the pool party and the Qatar accusations
00:17:50 The Channel 13 poll and the shape of the Israeli right
00:22:54 Yoav Segalovich joins Mansour Abbas and Ra'am
00:30:27 Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, Ron Dermer and the hostage families
00:35:39 Britain, the E1 corridor, and why Greece and Finland moved
00:39:09 Chutzpah of the Week and Mensch of the Week

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Rock Bottom Politics and the Art of the If-Pology

The former UK Prime Minister and Chancellor joins Yonit and Jonathan for the latest of our Unholy Conversations — on the void populist nationalists have moved into, on the difference between hope and optimism, on the father whose projector slides taught him the kings of Israel before the kings of England, and on the Middle East peace deal he watched come apart in 2009.

Chapters:

00:06 Introduction to Gordon Brown and His New Book

 05:48 The Connection Between Nationalism and Community Decline

 12:46 Personal Responsibility and Moral Leadership

 17:23 Addressing Anti-Semitism and Global Issues

 22:41 Hope vs. Optimism in Times of Crisis

 30:13 Britain's Role in Global Peace Efforts

 32:27 Personal Reflections and Motivations of Gordon Brown

 

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Gordon Brown on Nationalist Populism, Israel and Hope

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With sixty days to go until the Israeli elections, the political jockeying enters into overdrive. Yonit and Jonathan break down the high-stakes coalition arithmetic facing both Benjamin Netanyahu and Gadi Eisenkot, from the crowded field of small right-wing parties—including the entrance of retired general Ofer Winter—to the battle on the center ground. Meanwhile, alarming footage of settler violence in the West Bank and provocative stunts by far-right lawmakers raise hard questions and trigger fierce international blowback from London to Washington.

Plus: an election ad pulled on grounds of chutzpah so extreme, even its own party couldn't defend it, and a Mensch of the Week whose Jewish connection nobody saw coming.

 

 

0:00 End-of-Summer Chaos 1:50 Sixty Days to Israel's Election: Eisenkot vs Netanyahu 11:56 Lieberman Scenarios and Ben Gvir's TikTok Rise 16:06 Mansour Abbas and the Two-State Question 20:58 E1 Construction and the Wave of Settler Violence 31:10 The Case for Releasing Marwan Barghouti 35:12 Chutzpah of the Week: Aryeh Deri's Shas Ad 36:36 Mensch of the Week: Dolly Parton

 

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The 60-Day Countdown, Sledgehammer Politics -- and Dolly Parton

It's the end of summer, and Yonit and Jonathan are taking a break from the news with a nugget of pure Jewish joy. Andy Nyman — the West End actor, writer, director and magician currently starring as Max Bialystock in The Producers, and previously as an acclaimed Tevye in Fiddler on the Roof — joins the show for an Unholy Conversation. Why does Mel Brooks' nearly-60-year-old joke about Hitler still land? What makes Max Bialystock - who could have been Tevye’s grandson - so beloved, even in his desperation? And is the Broadway musical, as a form, secretly a Jewish one? Andy answers the question by giving a rare performance of a musical classic — rendered in Yiddish. You won’t want to miss it.

In this episode:

The Genius of Mel Brooks: How The Producers transforms satire into an act of healing and an uncompromising "fuck you" to history.

From Tevye to Bialystock: Exploring the thread connecting the working-class milkman of Anatevka to the scheming, desperate, yet deeply human Broadway hustler.

Art in Times of Darkness: A rare behind-the-scenes look at performing comedic Jewish art—and deciding to keep a daring scene in the show—in the wake of global tragedy.

Exclusive Live Performances: Andy delivers three bespoke, stripped-back performances directly in the studio:

"We Can Do It" (The Producers)

"If I Were a Rich Man" (Fiddler on the Roof)

A haunting, tender Yiddish translation of "Hushabye Mountain" (originally by the Sherman Brothers).

 

00:06 Introduction to Unholy Conversations

00:09 Introduction to Andy Nyman

01:57 The Enduring Appeal of The Producers

05:50 Mel Brooks and Jewish Healing through Humor

08:29 Defiance in Comedy: Pulling Down Pants

09:59 Exploring Max Bialystok's Character

17:30 Max Bialystok and Tevye: A Generational Connection

18:23 The Complexity of Tevye

22:58 The Essence of Fiddler on the Roof

30:44 The Current Jewish Climate

35:40 The Jewish Influence in Musical Theatre

42:32 A Yiddish Lullaby: Bridging Cultures

44:24 The Importance of Representation

44:25 Personal Connections and Impact

 

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Andy Nyman on saying "F-You" to Hitler on stage

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Sixty-eight days from the election, the hardest problems on Benjamin Netanyahu's desk are arriving from Washington. Jared Kushner is meeting Hamas directly, and the Gaza withdrawal deadlines he is carrying — thirty, sixty and ninety days — all land inside the Israeli campaign. Yonit and Jonathan read the timing as an unfriendly act rather than an accident, and ask what Donald Trump wants in return for the endorsement he keeps withholding. Also this week: the anti-Netanyahu bloc still cannot say who leads it, the IDF publishes its decisions in five Gaza cases, and the prime minister calls Britain an Islamic Republic on a podcast. Plus a Chutzpah award for an American broadcaster who has found proof of Israeli hostility to Christians in a mathematical symbol, and a Mensch of the Week who proves that sometimes even the most heartbreaking stories can have a happy ending.

 

00:00 Intro 04:04 68 days out: blocs, mergers and the electoral threshold 10:03 Eisenkot, Bennett and who leads the anti-Netanyahu bloc 14:32 Kushner meets Hamas and Washington's Gaza deadlines 19:59 The IDF's decisions in five Gaza cases 22:24 Huckabee on settler violence, Iran, and Trump on Oman 27:47 Coming up: Simon Sebag Montefiore on the Middle East 28:33 Netanyahu calls Britain an Islamic Republic 33:33 Central Synagogue and the cost to the diaspora 35:35 Chutzpah of the Week 38:56 Mensch of the Week

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Bibi's Primary Battles, Gaza Deadlines, and the Plus-sign "Plot"

Acclaimed historian Simon Sebag Montefiore returns to Unholy to discuss his sweeping new book, The Cauldron: A History of the Middle East between 1900 and 2026. He tells Yonit and Jonathan that understanding the region today requires starting at the dawn of the 20th century — thanks to the long shadow still cast by the Ottoman Empire and its collapse. They talk of the often underestimated significance of Saudi Arabia, the convulsions that followed the Iranian revolution of 1979 and the extent to which Israel is - unexpectedly - a Middle Eastern state like any other.

 

⏱ CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro

00:52 Why the book starts in 1900

02:49 Ibn Saud and the House of Saud

07:31 1979 and the Iranian revolution

09:55 The empire states, none of them Arab

13:13 Israel as a post-Ottoman state

18:22 Ben Gurion, Ataturk, Reza Shah

21:46 Middleness, pipelines and Haifa

26:35 The 1840 Damascus blood libel

30:02 Purity tests and historians' nerve

33:58 The King and Britain's minorities

 

 

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The Middle East Cauldron - with Simon Sebag Montefiore

Not a brand new episode this week - instead, another chance to hear one of the most impactful episodes we’ve ever aired. Back in November, as tensions emerged between Israeli and diaspora views of the war, Yonit and Jonathan had a frank, heartfelt conversation about they saw things, one month after 7 October. 
 
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